Resource SN megathread

[GoingSoonish]

Melting point is 310C. Moisture and prolonged exposure to air are the only things that must be avoided.

Thanks.

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

Just finalising my SN plans in my head. I think the "correct" method is as follows-

10mg Primperan every 8 hours for 48hrs
(No food for at least 8 hours before SN. Just water.)
800mg Tagamet 30-45mins before SN
20g SN in 100ml water

Does that sound right?

 

[malummo]

Final dose of meto?

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

Final dose of meto?

Probably final 10mg an hour before SN?

 

[malummo]

Recommendation is 20mg or 30mg

 

[bluesky1972-2019]

Recommendation is 20mg or 30mg

I thought the 20-30mg was if not doing the 48hr regime according to Wiki ?

Stat dose (60 minutes before SN intake)

• 3 * 10 mg Metoclopramide
or
Ahead regimen (48 hours before SN intake)

• Take 10 mg Metoclopramide every 8 hours, i.e. 3 times per day, starting 48 hours in advance.

 

[malummo]

I thought the 20-30mg was if not doing the 48hr regime according to Wiki ?

Stat dose (60 minutes before SN intake)

• 3 * 10 mg Metoclopramide
or
Ahead regimen (48 hours before SN intake)

• Take 10 mg Metoclopramide every 8 hours, i.e. 3 times per day, starting 48 hours in advance.

60mg is the risk of side effects. Most people who were on the regime had the last dose increased to 30mg.

 

[Morto]

This is confusing.. Do people doing the regime need the final dose? I dont think so

 

[littlelady774]

Has anyone got the Chinese brand of domperidone?? Is it legit?

 

[Crystal Labeija]

What's the view on using benzos to induce unconsciousness while taking sodium nitrite? I'm just worried about headaches and discomfort.

 

[Vegrau]

Just finalising my SN plans in my head. I think the "correct" method is as follows-

10mg Primperan every 8 hours for 48hrs
(No food for at least 8 hours before SN. Just water.)
800mg Tagamet 30-45mins before SN
20g SN in 100ml water

Does that sound right?

I would suggest give tagamet at least an hour or an hour and a half. Since cimetidine with 200mg only raise the ph to 7 at around 2 hours after ingestion. Yes we are taking in larger dose. But we dont know how fast it work.

 

[JeSuisMalade]

I began my anti-emetic regimen. It's so weird having to commit to this 48 hrs in advance. I'm fully decided in that I want to CTB, but it's still something I kinda have to be in the mood to do, so it was always easy for me to put it off. Today I've been stress eating big time so I have to delay it by a few hours to get in at least 6 hours of a fast. I took some sleeping pills to sleep through my digestion and then get up in the middle of the night to CTB, but I've yet to fall asleep. I've had 25 mg of valium, 2.5 unisoms, and 1500 mg methocarbamol but still wide awake with a full belly.

If you like to eat and really want to have a big last meal make sure to time your anti-emetic regimen to finish in the morning after you've fasted by virtue of 8 hours of sleep - if you can. But then again, I didn't like the idea of dying in the daytime, really.

 

[malummo]

This is confusing.. Do people doing the regime need the final dose? I dont think so

3 * 10 mg every 8 hours for 2 days. The last dose is taken one hour before the SN and should be increased to 20-30 mg. Stat dose of 60 mg is too high, but it depends on the weight and the tolerance to the drug.

 

[Jumper]

The term "lethal dose" is not very helpful. A minimum lethal dose may only kill 2% of people. The LD50 (median lethal dose) kills 50% of test subjects... so you'd want it to be a lot higher than that. According to this article, the "lethal dose" (not defined) of SN for feral pigs is at least 135mg/kg and preferably 270mg/kg-540mg/kg. This is concerning, especially since SN is more harmful to pigs than to humans. I'm 54kg. So my dose (using the highest value) would be 29g (and again, unclear if that only kills 50%). Thoughts?

 

[Vegrau]

The term "lethal dose" is not very helpful. A minimum lethal dose may only kill 2% of people. The LD50 (median lethal dose) kills 50% of test subjects... so you'd want it to be a lot higher than that. According to this article, the "lethal dose" (not defined) of SN for feral pigs is at least 135mg/kg and preferably 270mg/kg-540mg/kg. This is concerning, especially since SN is more harmful to pigs than to humans. I'm 54kg. So my dose (using the highest value) would be 29g (and again, unclear if that only kills 50%). Thoughts?

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This is why we are using cime and fasting. The pigs dont fast nor watch their gastric ph.

 

[irrelevant_string]

Does anyone know of any reliable sources for meto and cimetidine in Europe? PM would be appreciated.
There's no way for me to get a prescription.
I saw meto on ebay and a few other places but I'm not sure if it's safe. I don't really see a reason for anyone to scam people with anti emetics and antacids but I'm paranoid when it comes to this.

 

[intheend]

Does anyone know of any reliable sources for meto and cimetidine in Europe? PM would be appreciated.
There's no way for me to get a prescription.
I saw meto on ebay and a few other places but I'm not sure if it's safe. I don't really see a reason for anyone to scam people with anti emetics and antacids but I'm paranoid when it comes to this.

I would like to know that too. I bought on eBay, but don't think it gets arrived.

 

[jake3d]

Does anyone know of any reliable sources for meto and cimetidine in Europe? PM would be appreciated.

Unsure about meto but Cimetidine can be replaced by Ranitidine and you can find that on ebay UK.

 

[ImpendingExit45]

Apologies if this has been asked already, but does anyone know if Adderall impacts this method at all? I didn't see much of an interaction with ranitidine or emetics in my research, but was wondering if anyone here has more pharmacological expertise to know if it will affect the method.

 

[jake3d]

Adderall is an amphetamine, it's basically the pharma version of speed. It is a stimulant. It keeps you awake. Bad idea to take something that keeps you awake when you're trying to shut your body down.

 

[irrelevant_string]

Unsure about meto but Cimetidine can be replaced by Ranitidine and you can find that on ebay UK.

Thanks, I know about ranitidine but cimetidine can actually be found on ebay too. I guess I'll just take a leap of faith and order the first item.

I would like to know that too. I bought on eBay, but don't think it gets arrived.

What do you mean? When did you order it? And are you talking about meto or cimetidine?
The problem is I don't live alone, so I'd have to get the package while my parents are on a vacation or figure out how to get it shipped to a post office rather than the home address.

 

[ImpendingExit45]

Adderall is an amphetamine, it's basically the pharma version of speed. It is a stimulant. It keeps you awake. Bad idea to take something that keeps you awake when you're trying to shut your body down.

I don't plan on taking it near the time that I ctb. I take it in the mornings, so it will be well over 12 hours prior to taking the SN, but I take it every day so I imagine it will still be in my system. It also will help with the fasting :)

 

[Codieb1]

I know questions about "food grade" have come up countless times, and maybe it's not as effective as normal SN. But is it effective enough? Does anyone know of anyone who's been successful with food grade quality? Should I take around 30g instead of 20?

 

[Freedom21]

I have really bad stomach issues that are constant and it's includes regular running to the bathroom trips and sometimes nausea. Idk if this method is an option to me even if I can get it. Opinions?

 

[deltahead]

would hiding SN inside an acoustic guitar be a good idea? it's a little strange i know, but i've tried it with other things before. stuffing the guitar with cloth makes it rattle around less, it's more quiet. it would be inside it's case most of the time, so light exposure wouldn't be an issue. dunno where else i could possibly hide it, and even that's kinda risky and stupid.

also, would 15g be enough to put down someone who's slightly over 230 pounds or would more be necessary?

 

[jake3d]

would hiding SN inside an acoustic guitar be a good idea?

Seems legit to me. Only that I'd keep 40g, to have a 2nd dose available if you throw up and are serious about getting through with it. Otherwise, if you puke all the stuff up and change your mind, you should have emergency dialed up on your phone.

 

[pane]

would hiding SN inside an acoustic guitar be a good idea? it's a little strange i know, but i've tried it with other things before. stuffing the guitar with cloth makes it rattle around less, it's more quiet. it would be inside it's case most of the time, so light exposure wouldn't be an issue. dunno where else i could possibly hide it, and even that's kinda risky and stupid.

also, would 15g be enough to put down someone who's slightly over 230 pounds or would more be necessary?

I'm merely repeating what I've read before but several members here have recently said that Dr. Nitschke is now recommending 20-25 grams of sodium nitrite as the standard dose to take. If you're a bigger/heavier person you may quite possibly need more. How much more exactly I don't know.

 

[jake3d]

And I'm merely repeating that Nitschke can't even use a spell checker and that his advice should be taken with a grain of salt and people should do their own research before attempting such a crucial task.

 

[intheend]

Thanks, I know about ranitidine but cimetidine can actually be found on ebay too. I guess I'll just take a leap of faith and order the first item.


What do you mean? When did you order it? And are you talking about meto or cimetidine?
The problem is I don't live alone, so I'd have to get the package while my parents are on a vacation or figure out how to get it shipped to a post office rather than the home address.

Meto, since it need prescription. I ordered it a week ago, but will try again if it doesn't show up.

 

[pane]

And I'm merely repeating that Nitschke can't even use a spell checker and that his advice should be taken with a grain of salt and people should do their own research before attempting such a crucial task.

I agree Jake. How would you recommend that people do their own research about SN to arrive at the proper dose each person should take?

I vaguely recall someone posting a formula either on this thread or another SN thread explaining that you're supposed to take X grams of SN per Y lbs of bodyweight although I could very well be wrong about that.