Resource SN megathread

[Crystal Labeija]

I strongly suspect the recommended dosage is going up because people aren't following the rigimen properly, or have a low purity/food grade, or are vomiting anyway and not taking more. Increasing the base dose just increases the chance of vomiting. I'm planning on taking a 15, and then if I vomit, another 15. If I don't vomit, then 5

Doesn't "food grade SN" basically mean 98%+ purity? Anything below that would probably be illegal if marketed as "food grade." Food grade just means enough purity to be used on food. In many cases, a chemical has to be pure of any metals before it can be used for food.

 

[freaktech]

High dose of opioids can help with this method? As it causes respiratory depression I guess makes the oxygen transport even more difficult in theory, plus, you can fall unconscious before the side effects of SN kick in. Seems like ppeh don't talk about this, what do you think? My opioid idea would be a mix of fentanyl analogues

 

[Crystal Labeija]

I just received mine in the mail. I bought it from amazon, but it looks like it came from a third party that was selling through amazon. For an unregulated product, it sure comes with A LOT of warnings. Even though it looks scary, I've never felt more in control of my fate and future. I'll wait for the meto to arrive then it will be complete.

 

[Dreamcolleger]

I got butterflies in my stomach when I got my SN. I would recommend having another antiemetic at the ready, I had a bad time with meto and am going to try the domperidone/ondansetron regimen in the wikibook. The meto problems weren't so bad anyone should be scared of it, but they were pretty exhausting and I didn't want to go through 24 more hours of it, then die feeling like shit. It took away almost every good feeling I had, and considering being confident and feeling good about my decision is the main way I'm getting through it, I had to stop. Obviously it effects everyone differently though.

 

[Letmego. Please]

High dose of opioids can help with this method? As it causes respiratory depression I guess makes the oxygen transport even more difficult in theory, plus, you can fall unconscious before the side effects of SN kick in. Seems like ppeh don't talk about this, what do you think? My opioid idea would be a mix of fentanyl analogues

Unless you are opiate tolerant, then adding them to the mix will add to the likelihood of vomiting as they are well known for causing nausea & vomiting in patients unused to taking them, if you already have a tolerance then yes in theory they could help you 'mentally' get round the idea there might be some pain, but i remember something about them slowing gastric emptying which would be the reverse effect of the Meto i think, that being the speeded up gastric emptying, rather than the anti nausea effects.

No pain no gain as the saying goes.

 

[mentionized1]

Something's been on my mind. Since the taste of SN is almost comparable to salt water in the sea, I can only recommend mouthwash like Listerine. I think you don't have the salty taste in your mouth anymore. Maybe it helps to feel better afterwards.

 

[Roger]

Something's been on my mind. Since the taste of SN is almost comparable to salt water in the sea, I can only recommend mouthwash like Listerine. I think you don't have the salty taste in your mouth anymore. Maybe it helps to feel better afterwards.

I made up a glass of 100 ml water and 15 gm sodium chloride (common table salt) to give me an idea of what such a concentration might taste like, and whether I thought I could throw it down my neck in a couple of swigs. It occurred to me that it might be easier and more palatable if the solution were cooled down to a very low temperature.

 

[CelestialSky]

Just wondering if this will work. In the ingredients after the anti caking agent, it says "Max 0.4%" and I'm wondering is that in relation to the fact that the anti caking agent is no more than 0.4% of the mix, meaning it's 99.6% pure? I'm hoping so. It's "food grade" and says it's toxic if swallowed so I'm hoping it's okay. Thoughts?

 

[hejakdgiwbq]

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Just wondering if this will work. In the ingredients after the anti caking agent, it says "Max 0.4%" and I'm wondering is that in relation to the fact that the anti caking agent is no more than 0.4% of the mix, meaning it's 99.6% pure? I'm hoping so. It's "food grade" and says it's toxic if swallowed so I'm hoping it's okay. Thoughts?

It's the same one I'm planning on ordering. Everything checks out so hopefully its good :)

 

[CelestialSky]

It's the same one I'm planning on ordering. Everything checks out so hopefully its good :)

Oh no way! Well I ordered it anyway seeing as it's so cheap even if it's not right it's no big waste of money. I've sent them a message confirming the ingredient purity (making myself sound professional as possible!) and I'll reply here if they get back to me! Seems a legit curing company so fingers crossed!

 

[hejakdgiwbq]

Oh no way! Well I ordered it anyway seeing as it's so cheap even if it's not right it's no big waste of money. I've sent them a message confirming the ingredient purity (making myself sound professional as possible!) and I'll reply here if they get back to me! Seems a legit curing company so fingers crossed!

I haven't ordered mine yet, I'm planning on doing it tomorrow as well as some Ranitidine. Thank you and I wish you the best of luck :)

 

[Yaalya]

Is it possible to develop tolerance for Meto when taking Quetiapine for years to come? I'm afraid that meto can work worse at SN

 

[tiggles2000]

If I mix SN with DMSO and for some reason there is fluid in my stomach, causing the DMSO to crystallise, will the SN still be digested and work?

 

[Menschenfeind]

Is it possible to develop tolerance for Meto when taking Quetiapine for years to come? I'm afraid that meto can work worse at SN

Can't tell the chances about the medication and how "worse" they'll make the meto effect. In my case, I've discontinued to take my medication in prepreation for my N (30mg Mirtazapine, 150mg Venlafaxine). It's been rough but hopefully worth it. I took them partially over a year. Are you able to discontinue you medication too?

 

[Yaalya]

Can't tell the chances about the medication and how "worse" they'll make the meto effect. In my case, I've discontinued to take my medication in prepreation for my N (30mg Mirtazapine, 150mg Venlafaxine). It's been rough but hopefully worth it. I took them partially over a year. Are you able to discontinue you medication too?

I'll try it. I also stopped for 2 months this year, but had to take quetiapine again because of my condition, but currently less than half the usual dose. I just hope that I have not developed any tolerance to drugs, because in my experiment with 40 mg diazepham + 7.5 mg zopiclone + 140 ml vodka, the effect was very low (I have never used these medications before).

 

[Menschenfeind]

I'll try it. I also stopped for 2 months this year, but had to take quetiapine again because of my condition, but currently less than half the usual dose. I just hope that I have not developed any tolerance to drugs, because in my experiment with 40 mg diazepham + 7.5 mg zopiclone + 140 ml vodka, the effect was very low (I have never used these medications before).

That's okay. I've cut my medication in half, set one day off after each intake and finally I'm "free". Surely, I'm more depressed than before, no additional "strength" to survive the day. But in my case that's fine if the result is positive and it doesn't interfere with my N.

 

[Letmego. Please]

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Just wondering if this will work. In the ingredients after the anti caking agent, it says "Max 0.4%" and I'm wondering is that in relation to the fact that the anti caking agent is no more than 0.4% of the mix, meaning it's 99.6% pure? I'm hoping so. It's "food grade" and says it's toxic if swallowed so I'm hoping it's okay. Thoughts?

Yes that purely means that there is no more than 0.4% of Anti caking agent. Pretty much every form will come with a tiny amount to prevent clumping of the main substance. 'Tis normal.

 

[CelestialSky]

Yes that purely means that there is no more than 0.4% of Anti caking agent. Pretty much every form will come with a tiny amount to prevent clumping of the main substance. 'Tis normal.

That's great, thank you so much!

 

[CelestialSky]

I haven't ordered mine yet, I'm planning on doing it tomorrow as well as some Ranitidine. Thank you and I wish you the best of luck :)

Hey, just updating you that they replied to me today:

Hi Yes I can confirm that the purity is MINIMUM 99.5%. The Anti-caking agent (SiO2) is there as it is a requirement in many food processes so that no potentially dangerous clumps can be present in curing mixtures. It is manufactured by BASF Inorganics as a certified food grade additive. I hope that helps.

 

[hejakdgiwbq]

Hey, just updating you that they replied to me today:

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Hi Yes I can confirm that the purity is MINIMUM 99.5%. The Anti-caking agent (SiO2) is there as it is a requirement in many food processes so that no potentially dangerous clumps can be present in curing mixtures. It is manufactured by BASF Inorganics as a certified food grade additive. I hope that helps.

Thank you, this is probably the product I'm going to purchase. I appreciate the update, good luck :)

 

[jake3d]

If I mix SN with DMSO and for some reason there is fluid in my stomach, causing the DMSO to crystallise, will the SN still be digested and work?

SN + DMSO has already been proven to be a very bad idea.

 

[tiggles2000]

SN + DMSO has already been proven to be a very bad idea.

I have not seen any such information. Can you share a link so I can see for myself please?

 

[hejakdgiwbq]

I have not seen any such information. Can you share a link so I can see for myself please?

IIRC it's literally just further back in this thread.

 

[tiggles2000]

IIRC it's literally just further back in this thread.

Do you know approximate page number? I don't have time to read all 141 pages

 

[Codieb1]

Since Sn is partly a cure for cyanide poisoning, I'm thinking of writing in my suicide note that I killed myself with cyanide. Is that a good idea? I'm only going to be undiscovered for roughly 15 hours so anything to delay it further would be good.

 

[jake3d]

That's quite creative, but you'd have to look at how long cyanide can be detected in the body as obviously you have none.

 

[Codieb1]

Okay so, I live with my partner and another guy. My partner knows I've had cyanide in the past, and that I've been tempted to take it. She likely doesn't know much at all about its effects, but considering the circumstances, she'd probably find it pretty believable that I somehow got some. The reason I'd put that on the note isn't for her sake, but if she takes me to the hospital and tells them I have cyanide poisoning, I feel that would at least point them in the wrong direction just for a bit of a longer delay.

How long do you need before you're "unsaveable" on Sn anyway?

 

[jake3d]

Okay so, I live with my partner and another guy. My partner knows I've had cyanide in the past, and that I've been tempted to take it. She likely doesn't know much at all about its effects, but considering the circumstances, she'd probably find it pretty believable that I somehow got some.

That's another story then, it could work.

How long do you need before you're "unsaveable" on Sn anyway

A few hours, say 6 to be conservative. People have been found cold without a pulse after 3-4h.

 

[Codieb1]

Oh alright so overnight and more, is plenty of time. That's crazy fast honestly, a hospital really couldn't apply the medication and use a defibrillator? Sounds easy enough.

 

[jake3d]

Oh alright so overnight and more, is plenty of time. That's crazy fast honestly, a hospital really couldn't apply the medication and use a defibrillator? Sounds easy enough.

Some people have been found and brought to hospital 2-3 hrs after ingestion and died without regaining consciousness despite resuscitation measures.