Method Questions about Nitrogen gas method? Insights from experts?

[thehorizons]

I'm starting to get a better picture of the nitrogen method in terms of where to source it, what I need, its effectiveness, etc. That said, I have several questions that I hope some of the experts on SaSu could shed some light on. There are three things I'm not clear on.

First, how could you actually restrain yourself when using this method? I'm looking at the PPH and from my understanding is that when we pull the exit bag down after hyperventiliating for 1–2 minutes, we would lose consciousness after taking one deep breath. If we lose consciousness we technically can't restrain ourselves after pulling the bag down. Or, do we pull the bag down first, restrain ourselves, and then take one deep breath to lose consciousness? The PPH doesn't mention anything about restraining oneself too. By restraining, I mean sitting in a chair with some chest straps to prevent convulsing after I lose consciousness.

Second, when we go unconscious, isn't there the possibility of our head thrashing about and tearing the exit bag open or the hose becomes loose?

Lastly, so when the nitrogen seeps out of the collar of the exit bag, would it be a danger to those entering the room later after we CTBed? I guess I have sense of altruism still. I was wondering, wouldn't the nitrogen fill the room? Do we leave a note to any coming into the room beforehand?

I probably have more questions than these, but these are just some lingering ones that I can't find an answer to on this forum.

Additionally, my equipment list is pretty bare bones right now:

– Nitrogen cylinder
– Regulator
– Exit bag that's a clear turkey bag (using a sweat band instead of an elastic collar since I can't find videos online on how to make it and this seems relatively effective)
– Chair (with the chest strap)

 

[outrider567]

I'm starting to get a better picture of the nitrogen method in terms of where to source it, what I need, its effectiveness, etc. That said, I have several questions that I hope some of the experts on SaSu could shed some light on. There are three things I'm not clear on.

First, how could you actually restrain yourself when using this method? I'm looking at the PPH and from my understanding is that when we pull the exit bag down after hyperventiliating for 1–2 minutes, we would lose consciousness after taking one deep breath. If we lose consciousness we technically can't restrain ourselves after pulling the bag down. Or, do we pull the bag down first, restrain ourselves, and then take one deep breath to lose consciousness? The PPH doesn't mention anything about restraining oneself too. By restraining, I mean sitting in a chair with some chest straps to prevent convulsing after I lose consciousness.

Second, when we go unconscious, isn't there the possibility of our head thrashing about and tearing the exit bag open or the hose becomes loose?

Lastly, so when the nitrogen seeps out of the collar of the exit bag, would it be a danger to those entering the room later after we CTBed? I guess I have sense of altruism still. I was wondering, wouldn't the nitrogen fill the room? Do we leave a note to any coming into the room beforehand?

I probably have more questions than these, but these are just some lingering ones that I can't find an answer to on this forum.

Additionally, my equipment list is pretty bare bones right now:

– Nitrogen cylinder
– Regulator
– Exit bag that's a clear turkey bag (using a sweat band instead of an elastic collar since I can't find videos online on how to make it and this seems relatively effective)
– Chair (with the chest strap)

Inert Gas Mega Thread is where you'll find answers--During my tests on myself(not recommended!), I estimate it would take about 10 deep breaths to pass out, not one breath--After about 6 breaths,I ripped my EEBD Hood off after my fingertip pulse oximeter dropped to 77, but the reality was it was already down to 40, with the delay

I'm starting to get a better picture of the nitrogen method in terms of where to source it, what I need, its effectiveness, etc. That said, I have several questions that I hope some of the experts on SaSu could shed some light on. There are three things I'm not clear on.

First, how could you actually restrain yourself when using this method? I'm looking at the PPH and from my understanding is that when we pull the exit bag down after hyperventiliating for 1–2 minutes, we would lose consciousness after taking one deep breath. If we lose consciousness we technically can't restrain ourselves after pulling the bag down. Or, do we pull the bag down first, restrain ourselves, and then take one deep breath to lose consciousness? The PPH doesn't mention anything about restraining oneself too. By restraining, I mean sitting in a chair with some chest straps to prevent convulsing after I lose consciousness.

Second, when we go unconscious, isn't there the possibility of our head thrashing about and tearing the exit bag open or the hose becomes loose?

Lastly, so when the nitrogen seeps out of the collar of the exit bag, would it be a danger to those entering the room later after we CTBed? I guess I have sense of altruism still. I was wondering, wouldn't the nitrogen fill the room? Do we leave a note to any coming into the room beforehand?

I probably have more questions than these, but these are just some lingering ones that I can't find an answer to on this forum.

Additionally, my equipment list is pretty bare bones right now:

– Nitrogen cylinder
– Regulator
– Exit bag that's a clear turkey bag (using a sweat band instead of an elastic collar since I can't find videos online on how to make it and this seems relatively effective)
– Chair (with the chest strap)

'Danger to others while entering the room', not likely--But I will put up a couple of 'warning Nitrogen' signs on the door just to make sure

I see. I haven't gotten the supplies, but I definitely know that hyperventilating is key since it induces this hypoxic state. Just a final question, do you think you would have passed out eventually if you didn't take it off? Thanks for all your input.

Hyperventilating is not essential, but it may help