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I have never taken a professional test, I had some test books in the late 90s and I later took some online (inaccurate) tests. It varied between 122 and 132. Your guess is as good as mine.
 
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OfficerK

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I love your comment! You are worth much more that the multitudes of self assessed "high IQ" over achievers and pretentious "intellects" that regularly post tedious drivel. Kindness and a good heart are the most special qualities.
Intelligence only becomes valuable when it exists in conjunction with these qualities.
 
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Final Escape

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Intelligence only becomes valuable when it exists in conjunction with these qualities.
You can be a total psychopath but be a great surgeon so I don't know. Yes it absolutely matters that you have a good heart and treat others well, especially if the other party reciprocates. It's pointless to have empathy among other people who do not possess it. These people unfortunately exist and much more common than u might realize. If you're the only one with empathy in a group you're goin to be harmed if u don't restrain it or understand this. Pathological altruism is just as dangerous as not being generous, warm, empathic, etc.
 
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JustAboutDone

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I think that a loving supportive upbringing / hard work / opportunity are more valuable than an IQ of 150 plus
 
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@Johnnythefox
I have to confess... I didn't know any of the answers so I sort of used a pattern similar to my 11 plus - third one down, second one down etc
:-)
I guessed on all the verbal ones except for one :II
 
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OfficerK

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You can be a total psychopath but be a great surgeon so I don't know. Yes it absolutely matters that you have a good heart and treat others well, especially if the other party reciprocates. It's pointless to have empathy among other who do not possess it. These people unfortunately exist and much common than u might realize. If you're the only one with empathy in a group you're goin to be harmed if u don't restrain it or understand this.
Yeah, you can probably find some exceptions where people do good by accident while trying to further their personal, selfish goals. What I'm trying to say is that compassion is always good, no matter how smart a person is, while intelligence can exacerbate the harm of people with malicious intent so that it would be better if they were not intelligent.
 
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Final Escape

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Yeah, you can probably find some exceptions where people do good by accident while trying to further their personal, selfish goals. What I'm trying to say is that compassion is always good, no matter how smart a person is, while intelligence can exacerbate the harm of people with malicious intent so that it would be better if they were not intelligent.
No I mean that people can be completely void of empathy but respond to incentives. So just because someone is a phsycopath does not mean they were not socialized well and have a very valuable skill. You can still do good in society and not be especially caring or warm. But yes if someone is an antisocial and unable to not harm others it's bad news. Some people are born like this but to a good home and still turn out fine.
 
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ReadyasEver

ReadyasEver

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No I mean that people can be completely void of empathy but respond to incentives. So just because someone is a phsycopath does not mean they were not socialized well and have a very valuable skill.

I've run into a few of those in my time. Both hands on the wallet, bs meter on high, and do not agree to anything.
 
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Probably 60-80.
 
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StreamingMySuicide

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Which online test is recommended in figuring it out?
 
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19andready

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Recently went to a psychologist in an attempt to get some help with my anxiety and depression (hopefully medication) and was administered an official IQ test. It took 3 hours and and I didnt get my results for 2 weeks. My score was 127 with a large disparity in visual spacial and verbal intelligence. The therapist then proceeded to recommend professions that suit me based on my IQ profile. Lol I think it's bogus to be honest. Don't waste your time worrying over an IQ score, even if
it's not a fake online one. Cheers
 
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Chinaski

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I have issues with IQ tests to the point I won't even entertain waving a number around.

Absolutely this. An IQ test proves that someone was good or bad at that particular test on that particular day, and nothing much more. Sure, if you were to take a person with an lQ of 85 and put them with a person with an lQ of 150 you'd probably guess which is which , but this can't be rubberstamped with a particular number to be worn like a badge.


You can be a total psychopath but be a great surgeon so I don't know. Yes it absolutely matters that you have a good heart and treat others well, especially if the other party reciprocates. It's pointless to have empathy among other people who do not possess it.

There's a lot of discussion on here about empathy (or lack of) at various times, and people frequently make this error of assuming it to be a binary trait; it isn't, like every other trait it exists on a continuum and, naturally, different things affect different people in different ways. There is very much a modern trend towards observing a perceived 'lack of empathy' in others, to an almost diagnostic and absolute degree, when they fail to performatively and visibly emote in the appropriately choreographed way and to the exact demands of the observer. A lot of what is considered 'empathy' is bad acting, a lot of what is given a coffee-table diagnosis of 'zero empathy to psychopathic level' is simply a failure to meet an increased societal expectation of performance.
 
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ReadyasEver

ReadyasEver

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I took one. Really means nothing except I breezed through the spatial, math, and logic questions and was slowed by the verbal. Just like I thought. IQ tests mean nothing, all they might do is give a hint on capabilities in certain areas. So many other factors come into play. A002F2B3 360C 4195 B46B 1AD6C3C42EC2
 
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JustAboutDone

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There is very much a modern trend towards observing a perceived 'lack of empathy' in others, to an almost diagnostic and absolute degree, when they fail to performatively and visibly emote in the appropriately choreographed way and to the exact demands of the observer. A lot of what is considered 'empathy' is bad acting.

This comes down to the age-old judging. The assumption that as X and Y are not wailing and gnashing their teeth - therefore they must be unfeeling and cold. Sadly very untrue.
 
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ReadyasEver

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Agreed completely.
 
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StreamingMySuicide

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I believe IQ tests are human created so they don't really test human intelligence.. but I know I got like a 106 or 96 or something. I don't know, I had a hard time sitting there even doing it on my phone. So who knows.
 
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waived

waived

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I believe he inherited some money but not more than an average lottery winner. He is an excellent business man and knows how to negotiate. It helped him to be born when our country was more free and smaller government for sure. He only got 1 million to start with and turned it into billions. Most people cannot do this.

An average lottery amount referring to the big lotteries of course as a sudden addition to income is still a rare and extreme spike in $$ and a million dollars is far more than the vast majority of people in the us and the world will ever see although data tends to indicate his family was way wealthier and the amount was way higher than 1 mil. I'd have to say that most people have to go through and do far more with far less but would have far less experience with large sums of money.
 
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I didn't expect this thread to be anything like one about self-reported cock sizes...oh who am I kidding I totally did.
 
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An average lottery amount referring to the big lotteries of course as a sudden addition to income is still a rare and extreme spike in $$ and a million dollars is far more than the vast majority of people in the us and the world will ever see although data tends to indicate his family was way wealthier and the amount was way higher than 1 mil. I'd have to say that most people have to go through and do far more with far less but would have far less experience with large sums of money.
From the Economist.
"DONALD TRUMP has always said he is a self-made billionaire. The president insists that the only financial help he got from his father Fred, a New York City developer, was a $1m loan, which he repaid. An investigation by the New York Times (NYT), published this week, concludes that he actually received fifty times that amount, that it was not repaid, and that many of the transfers were dodgy.


"The newspaper examined more than 100,000 pages of documents, including financial-disclosure reports and bank statements (but not the president's tax returns, which he refuses to make public). In the 1990s, it says, Mr Trump took part in "dubious" tax schemes which included instances of "outright fraud". It concludes that he "appropriated his father's entire empire as his own".

From this reliable source:
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2018/10/06/donald-trumps-inheritance
 
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Asdr5633

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No online IQ tests are remotely accurate. A lot of them purposely overestimate IQ in order to draw people in, and often to entice them into paying for worthless certificates. Also, the questions/scoring systems of online IQ tests are generally not kept up to date with the latest standards and research, unlike proper IQ tests. Keep in mind that the whole model of IQ is based around comparisons with other people and keeping up to date with how other people are currently scoring (i.e. the fact that the average IQ is always kept at 100). Online IQ tests do not keep up to date with these factors, and taking one in your room at home is much different to taking one in the proper exam environment, so you can't sufficiently compare yourself with others who take them in the proper exam environment (which is needed for accurate results because of how IQ revolves around comparisons with others).

As for the validity of IQ itself, it has its advantages and disadvantages. IQ scores most definitely correlate with things that you would expect them to if they are accurately measuring intelligence. IQ is one of the best predictors of education level, occupation level, income level, and job performance. In 2006 there was a meta-analysis study on IQ by Tarmo Strenze (https://www.researchgate.net/public...Meta-Analytic_Review_of_Longitudinal_Research), and here are some tables from that to back up what I'm saying:

http://i.imgur.com/qIGdGqI.png

The fact that IQ scores are able to predict things like education level and job performance (by a significant amount) clearly shows that IQ scores are measuring something of value. However, there are of course many different interpretations of intelligence, and some things that one person might consider as intelligence may not be recognised by an IQ test. For instance, I think the way that penguins are able to hunt and catch their prey underwater is clearly a form of intelligence, but nevertheless a penguin would not even be able to get a score on an IQ test. Therefore, I am in favour of considering diverse interpretations of intelligence, but to act like IQ tests are worthless and hardly measure anything (which a lot of people like to claim) is silly.
 
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