Discussion Murder/Suicide! Why?

[First loss]

I mean, some of those parents might be deluded and actually think that they are helping their child with taking their life too. Honestly, I think it is wrong. If you want to kill yourself keep others and your children safe from physical harm, as mental harm is bound to happen, but it is just the way it is.

I do not feel sorry for her. She should not have killed her child.

 

[Sweet emotion]

So, when we feel suicidal, what we decide to do with our own lives, is our personal business. Nobody has the right to tell you to stop!!
However, when your suicide or your suicidal thoughts, include taking someone with you "murder" it then becomes a heinous crime!
This happened last year, a mother jumped off "Beachy Head" Cliffs, taking her innocent 5 year old son with her! killing him too #MurderSuicide. What a nasty, evil, callous, cruel woman she was! she DIDN'T love her son, because how could she love him and so cruelly, take his own life, with hers?????
I'm Bipolar Disorder and BPD diagnosed, with extreme suicidal ideation! I take meds because I'm crazy without them, but I'm a full time mother to two little boy's, my adorable son's aged 11 and 6. I have had CPS tell me they DON'T need to be involved because I'm doing such a wonderful job! regardless of my Mental Health, I'm a functioning Mentally ill woman, who instead of hiding under covers rocking back and forth, I become a ocd crazed woman about working, about keeping a tidy house, about being the best I can be, even with all my craziness! mostly thanks to my meds...
Anyway, whenever I have tried to CTB or thought about CTB, never ever have i thought about taking my little boy's with me, and killing them, despite whatever I'm going through, those boys are my world, and even the thought of hurting them, makes me crumble!
That's because I AM a loving, caring mother!
SHE that evil woman, clearly didn't love her son! and anybody using the excuse of "oh she was mentally unwell, she didnt know what she was doing" BOLLOCKS!!
of course she knew what she was doing, she took his life, killed him, for the most selfish reason "If I cant have him, then nobody can"

So, my question to you all is...
Does this women deserve to be mourned over?? does this woman deserve forgiveness??
What are your thoughts on #MurderSuicide?

The most selfish, cruel, hurtful, cold, evil kind of people, could ever do such a heinous crime.

I don't think it's that easy to say she was an evil person who didn't love her son. She most likely had severe mental problems. Sometimes they think that killing the child is better than having them grow up without a mother. This woman was probably very messed up in the head. She was probably crazy. You say the reason was that if she couldn't have him no one could. How do you know she couldn't have him? How do you know that was the definitive reason? I think because you're a mom and have mental issues you're projecting them onto this woman. Did you know her?

I doubt the dead are craving for our forgiveness or lament.

"I'm a good person; she's evil. I'm loving and caring; she is cruel, callous and heartless."

Why are you doing all of this?

It sounds like she's trying to convince herself of something.

 

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Why are you doing all of this?

It sounds like she's trying to convince herself of something.

That's one of the possibilities I wanted to point out, but I thought that saying it directly would present me as too offensive. And you probably know what usually happens when one perceives a public attack on one's own status by another person. I feel like I've misspoke trying to cover the situation in one sentence, and I usually suck at that, so I will elaborate a bit.

There is a group. A public meeting. During this meeting one person publicly attacks the status of another person, and the attack was perceived as that by the attacked person. And you know what usually happens, a fight. Verbal or not, truth and facts usually step into the background, and I hate that for reasons I won't uncover in this post, not that anyone cares... (Yes, it's a manipulative tactic to invoke some care into you.(Way to break the fourth wall huh? Or what wall that would be?(I wanted to make it to fourth parenthesis but I like the idea of you being a head over me.)))

Actually I was being hypocritical by subtly reproaching her ways of blaming and shaming others to put herself in a good light, while I was doing exactly the same by presenting myself as "in your face" no-bullshit guy calling other members of this forum on their devious status games.

I even make this post because I just noticed the breaches in my defense and fixed it (hopefully) before another member of this group got to capitalize on my mistakes.

Short story even shorter, everything to feel good about myself but I don't feel bad about it because I buy into possibility that everyone else does that.

 

[Sweet emotion]

That's one of the possibilities I wanted to point out, but I thought that saying it directly would present me as too offensive. And you probably know what usually happens when one perceives a public attack on one's own status by another person. I feel like I've misspoke trying to cover the situation in one sentence, and I usually suck at that, so I will elaborate a bit.

There is a group. A public meeting. During this meeting one person publicly attacks the status of another person, and the attack was perceived as that by the attacked person. And you know what usually happens, a fight. Verbal or not, truth and facts usually step into the background, and I hate that for reasons I won't uncover in this post, not that anyone cares... (Yes, it's a manipulative tactic to invoke some care into you.(Way to break the fourth wall huh? Or what wall that would be?(I wanted to make it to fourth parenthesis but I like the idea of you being a head over me.)))

Actually I was being hypocritical by subtly reproaching her ways of blaming and shaming others to put herself in a good light, while I was doing exactly the same by presenting myself as "in your face" no-bullshit guy calling other members of this forum on their devious status games.

I even make this post because I just noticed the breaches in my defense and fixed it (hopefully) before another member of this group got to capitalize on my mistakes.

Short story even shorter, everything to feel good about myself but I don't feel bad about it because I buy into possibility that everyone else does that.

I'm not looking to attack anyone and I hope she doesn't get defensive if she reads it. I refuse to fight with anyone on this page.

 

[Rachel74]

I find very selfish when say for example a dad or mom kill themselves then kill their children

 

[NextBusLeaving]

Worst one I heard was a dude killed wife, 3 kids, and self with a shotgun. Even crated and shot the family dog. Why? His millwork business was failing. Amazingly the house sold a few years later. But crazy dark energy.