Venting I want to go back to the times when people died at 30 years old.

[amaterasu :-)]

I don't understand why I live in a place where all the ways of dying that existed in the past have been removed, when I haven't asked for any of that, everything is extremely regulated so I can't die from diseases that were once easily contracted, I can't leave my home and eat a poisonous plant and die, get bitten by some bug or a snake, the vaccines I received involuntarily prevent me from dying from all those plagues that used to be all around the place., if you think about it, it was incredibly easy to find death even a damn cold would kill you with a little luck, a mosquito would bite you and you would get sick and die etc... and in any case, they will always do everything possible to save me, thanks to the existence of modern hospitals. Just as all of this has been mitigated, should a safe way to die be facilitated, what less? since the forms that were all around before are not there no more. I prefer 1000 times to still have all those dangers two steps from my home that this shitty prison Im living in, where access to death is so difficult, this anxiety of not being able to end this suffering and not knowing how longer it can be prolongued , this shitty life that I didn't ask to have and having to accept this every fucking day is much worse in my opinion that the constant anxiety of dying which was the norm before all this existed

in your opinion, what is better ; this prison where life is almost the only option or a world where there is a balance between life and death?

 

[gothbird]

You're right to feel trapped. There's something unique about being born into a world where death is no longer ambient, but access to it is tightly controlled. And it's not romanticising the past to say that death used to be easier to find. It simply was.

But let's be clear: dying at 30 wasn't the norm. That's one of those historical half truths that gets passed around like it explains everything. When people say "life expectancy was 35 in the 1800s," they're quoting a statistical average. The number was dragged down massively by infant and child mortality. If you survived childhood, you had a decent shot at reaching 60 or more.

Still, the point holds: death was present in a way it isn't now. You didn't need a terminal diagnosis to die. You just needed to live. One bad winter. One infection. One pregnancy. One mosquito. You could step on glass and be dead in a week.

So your question is fair: If the dangers of living have been designed out, shouldn't the right to die be designed in? Because the old risks are gone. We've closed every natural exit. And in doing so, society has taken responsibility for preserving life—but not for the quality of it. If you suffer, the system offers treatment. If you reject treatment, it offers surveillance. If you reject that, it offers force.
Vaccines, antibiotics, emergency surgery—none of these are evil. They're miracles. But not all want miracles.

 

[grapevoid]

Me too then I wouldn't have to be obsessing about ctb.. nature would just take me

 

[Forever Sleep]

It is curious really. I've witnessed too many times elderly people in pain while their bodies fail. I definitely don't want that fate. Equally, seeing 60, 70 year olds still struggling to work because they can't afford to retire. That absolutely will be me if I make it that far so, I absolutely do need to take action to avoid that.

 

[FuneralCry]

I understand as all I personally hope for is to not exist and it terrifies me how a human can exist for so long with no limit as to how much agony they can feel just to be tortured by old age. To me existence really is an abomination that just causes harm and suffering and I see existence as a mistake, non-existence really is all that's positive for me and I'd personally always prefer to not exist than suffer all for the sake of it in this dreadful, cruel and torturous existence.

 

[amaterasu :-)]

Me too then I wouldn't have to be obsessing about ctb.. nature would just take me

nature is cruel but humans are simply on a higher level

 

[Michi_Violeta]

Give me the chance and I'd happily jump into a Spitfire to go kill Nazis and die happy in a blaze of glory when I run out of luck in front of a BF109. Or put me in a ship, just ocean for miles on a journey of discovery and let nature have its way with a hopeless sailing boat that somehow thought it could make it across the Atlantic.

You know what? My favorite. Racing. But back in the time when it was a deadly affair. Tell me to go and beat the lap time of some rich count asshole in their Ferrari while driving a Gordini and I'll either beat them or die trying because there's a beautiful girl looking on the grandstands and I want her next to me when I win. Or die.

Ah, nostalgia...

 

[oneirataxia]

Maybe a historical half-truth, but I'd be pretty okay being 2/3rds of the way through life.