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Higurashi415

Higurashi415

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Aug 23, 2024
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Not all of them. I didn't say all of them. There are many times more good ugly people than good pretty people. When they have the ability to easily get new friends or partners (because they are attractive and people don't automatically reject them), they can just shit on people's heads and treat them like garbage because a replacement is just around the corner. Some ugly people know the pain of such treatment and have a choice to either inflict it on others or never do it to anyone in hopes that it will get recognized by someone else someday. The latter method may work now to some extent but it won't in the next few years. There's just not many of us left.
Having a chip on your shoulder can definitely make you more bitter, I'm not so sure it's true. Could be, but I don't think it's that obvious.
Especially because there's a whole spectrum between being ugly, whatever that means, and being beautiful. I've not met many decent beautiful people in my life, but there's a WHOLE LOT of normal people around. Unremarkable by beauty standards.

Anyways beauty is overrated in these discussions, unless you're like 20 years old. If you're having issues with finding a partner (not you specifically, you in general) I don't think it's about beauty unless you're incomprehensively ugly.
If beauty was that important we'd all be beautiful in a couple of generations and that's clearly not happened.
 
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Dejected 55

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May 7, 2025
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Yes. I've been getting the same from others. They are basically just sugarcoating what they are thinking: "You're not good enough for us! Have something we want from you!" and "Go away from me! Look for them somewhere else that's far away from me!".
Exactly. That reminds me... the multiple times women have told me how I would "make some woman happy" or "you are exactly the kind of guy who would make me happy" while they do not at all want to be with me. I was talking with one woman platonically, and I mean that. We just somehow got into a conversation at work and without any provocation or flirting from me... I had been confiding in my loneliness and such... she randomly offered something like, "You are exactly the kind of man who could ultimately make me happy." I didn't know what to do with that, especially since I knew she was married. She followed it up, though, with saying this wasn't a good time for her to think of anyone else because she was trying to rebuild her marriage after her husband had an affair.

So, here's the thing. This was an attractive woman, but I honestly wasn't flirting or thinking about her that way. She proffered the over-the-top "you could make me happy" line but immediately undercut it with, but I'd rather stick with my man who not only isn't as good as I just said you were BUT also he cheats on me and I need to make it better. What the actual hell? IF I had been attracted to her, that would have fucked me up. But I wasn't, so I just brushed past it.
 
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CuriousPotato

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Jun 25, 2025
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Having a chip on your shoulder can definitely make you more bitter, I'm not so sure it's true. Could be, but I don't think it's that obvious.
Especially because there's a whole spectrum between being ugly, whatever that means, and being beautiful. I've not met many decent beautiful people in my life, but there's a WHOLE LOT of normal people around. Unremarkable by beauty standards.

Anyways beauty is overrated in these discussions, unless you're like 20 years old. If you're having issues with finding a partner (not you specifically, you in general) I don't think it's about beauty unless you're incomprehensively ugly.
If beauty was that important we'd all be beautiful in a couple of generations and that's clearly not happened.
I haven't been able to find many reasonable people when searching for them in person. It's been been just a big bag of selfish mammals.

"If beauty was that important we'd all be beautiful in a couple of generations and that's clearly not happened." >>> To that I'd say: Wait for it. Ever since tons of women started working a few decades ago, they no longer needed to depend on any man who showed interest in them. They gradually started getting very very picky about their (expensive) meal tickets and entertainment providers. By that I mean men. Too bad they think higher beauty means better partner. Many very old people figured out that's not the case.
 
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pain247

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Aug 9, 2024
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Without a question there are guys out there looking to be loved just like you are looking. However you will not find them in a bar or in your home. Try church, community programs and similar.
 
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Higurashi415

Higurashi415

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Aug 23, 2024
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I haven't been able to find many reasonable people when searching for them in person. It's been been just a big bag of selfish mammals.

"If beauty was that important we'd all be beautiful in a couple of generations and that's clearly not happened." >>> To that I'd say: Wait for it. Ever since tons of women started working a few decades ago, they no longer needed to depend on any man who showed interest in them. They gradually started getting very very picky about their (expensive) meal tickets and entertainment providers. By that I mean men. Too bad they think higher beauty means better partner. Many very old people figured out that's not the case.
Reasonable people are hard to find in general, I don't see how it's limited to women


Women are still by and large selecting for economic status (as in, someone who earns more than they do). Most women are still by and large selecting for economic status, but that's not as bad as you say. I think you're not considering the fact that a lot of women work part time. Like, a lot. Heavily depends on where you live, but it's around 35% in Germany, 40% in Australia and 70% in the Netherlands. It looks like most women try to find a man that earns more than them, that's all. No woman ever said "I want a beautiful man by my side". (it's a joke btw, I'm sure some women have said that over the course of the entire history of humanity)

That been said FOR SURE there's women that are only looking for men 6 feet or higher, but they're mostly on dating apps and if you're a man and using dating apps you're likely screwed either way. It's not most women (again, we'd all be 6 feet otherwise and it's not the case), and most women just select someone taller than them and weighs more than them, oddly enough.

(Usually, it's not true in all cases obviously and my reasoning is mostly around statistics)
 
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Ligottian

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Dec 19, 2021
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This may be blunt, but...humans, men especially (sorry guys) will have sex with just about anything. Farm animals, cars, dead bodies. And while I don't know you, I'm 100%+ positive you have way more to offer as a partner than any of those things. I guarantee you someone somewhere is interested in you. You just have to know how to sell it. Think of yourself not as discarded, but as exclusive.
You haven't "been there" have you, SchizoGymnast? :pfff:
 
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alwaysalone

Experienced
May 14, 2025
221
Handsome guys are a trap. Best to forget about them for the next few generations if you want a meaningful relationship for the long run. Go after the ugly guys. They are very lonely and will be happy to have you. In my experience, the prettier they are, the worse personalities they have. Men and women. You want a handsome guy? He can always just replace you with someone better. Always. Only attempt to get them if you're in it for the trophy. They are worthless in a relationship otherwise. My advice: go on a dating site, like Bumble for example, and read the profiles of the ugliest chums you can find. You'll be pleasantly surprised.
This is ridiculously biased and not at all true. It's never ok to put others down because of your own jealousies and insecurities. Imagine if someone said go for the "ugly" ones they're desperate enough to put up with anything. Of all the men I've known the least attractive had the worst personalities.
 
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May 28, 2024
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You haven't "been there" have you, SchizoGymnast? :pfff:
If I ever got to that point, I would have caught the bus with a rifle a long time ago. No, I am in a monogamous relationship with myself.😉
 
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May 7, 2025
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Women have changed more than men, from what I can tell.

Sure, some men are opening up more and being more vulnerable, but I don't know how much that is moving the needle.

Women, though... seem to still be using their old criteria like money and status but that has shifted since many women now have their own money and status so they "must" seek men with even more money/status than they would have in the past. Meanwhile, women seem to have also adopted more make criteria. In the past women cared less about a man's looks... but now they seem to care more. It was always shallow when men chose only on looks, and now women do the same thing... and that's hard to overcome suddenly without leaving a lot of men behind.

I get women being oppressed and held back for generations, in the US and in most of the world... I get there is some bounce-back when they get more freedom and not only want to exercise that but want to push the boundaries. Like, the famous interview with Justice Ginsberg who, when asked how many women she thought should be on the Supreme Court, she said nine. She continued that nobody thought it was weird to have all men, so why not have all women? And I get her sentiment... and IF all the best people at the time for the positions were women, I have ZERO problem with it. But... we had generations of putting unqualified or bad men in positions just because they were men even if there was a better female candidate... I would hate to see us swing the pendulum the other way and put an unqualified woman in place just to "stick it to the man." I hoped the quest for equality would be just that... equality. Lift women up and knock men down a peg. But there are a lot of people who seem to just want to turn things upside down as if that's any better.

Just like a LOT of good women have been historically overlooked and oppressed... I fear we could be headed towards a period of time where good men are overlooked and oppressed just to "make up" for things. I'm all for women having equal rights and equal power and being/doing anything they want in this world. I just wish that so many wouldn't be trying to turn the tables and be like the bad men of old. Also, this tends to make those men who still want to fuck over women even more determined to do so... because they are scared, and so the bad men are going to be worse men now, trying to "break" that "uppity" woman.

In a "perfect" world, we would still like people who don't like us... and it would still be difficult to make connections. But our society tends to make "difficult" into "nearly impossible" and "attainable" into "difficult" and everything is just a whole lot harder and more painful and discouraging than it really should be for us to find people and make connections.

Think when you are an innocent child, not yet scarred and corrupted by society... you could just walk up to another kid you see randomly and say "wanna play with me" or "wanna be friends" and they would. If you had fun you wanted to do it again, if you didn't then you were okay and asked someone else the next day. But ten years of being in the world after that, and exposure and understanding of how society seems to work... and young kids begin to form cliques and decide which kids are "better" than others and which kids "need" to be picked on and excluded... It starts when we are young, because we see how adults treat each other... and we mimic... and we see which adults seem to be in charge, and we mimic them more... and it goes on and on and on.
 

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