I wish I could stop being fat, it's torture.

[rotten_hrtz]

All my life I've struggled to change my body, from diets to starving myself, but it never works. I'm not obese, but I'm not slim either. I'm in a limbo where I'm too fat to be considered pretty and not fat enough to be considered obese (I don't know if that makes sense).

But it's all my dad's fault. My dad always made fun of my body and called me a cow or obese. It affected how I see myself. I don't know if I'm pretty or ugly, but I don't want to live feeling like this anymore.

Many people around me often say I'm pretty, but I don't believe it. They only say it so I don't think about it. I've thought that all my confidence problems will end when I finally end my life. Maybe then I won't feel so ugly and I can just rest.

 

[Alumina]

do you really think you are ugly and if you do, why?

 

[Front Back]

do you really think you are ugly and if you do, why?

Possibly because the father kept telling this person this

But it's all my dad's fault. My dad always made fun of my body and called me a cow or obese.

It's honestly so painful when you know WHY your hurt but still can't overcome it, I myself falls on underweight BMI and no matter what I do I can't get 50 Kg

 

[Alumina]

Possibly because the father kept telling this person this

what i mean is like does SHE think it and if so is it because SHE really thinks she's fat or is she gaslighted by the father? i mean a lot of people (myself included before) are just shamed but beside are not that fat
ngl after all ik it's a dumb question, most aren't objective about it bc of the bullying

 

[fadedghost]

All my life I've struggled to change my body, from diets to starving myself, but it never works. I'm not obese, but I'm not slim either. I'm in a limbo where I'm too fat to be considered pretty and not fat enough to be considered obese (I don't know if that makes sense).

But it's all my dad's fault. My dad always made fun of my body and called me a cow or obese. It affected how I see myself. I don't know if I'm pretty or ugly, but I don't want to live feeling like this anymore.

Many people around me often say I'm pretty, but I don't believe it. They only say it so I don't think about it. I've thought that all my confidence problems will end when I finally end my life. Maybe then I won't feel so ugly and I can just rest.

It sounds like you are probably normal weight and perceive yourself incorrectly. If you aren't a normal weight, GLP-1s like Ozempic work really well and the prices are coming down dramatically.

 

[Front Back]

what i mean is like does SHE think it and if so is it because SHE really thinks she's fat or is she gaslighted by the father? i mean a lot of people (myself included before) are just shamed but beside are not that fat
ngl after all ik it's a dumb question, most aren't objective about it bc of the bullying

It should be related, her father kept telling her that and because of that she starts to think for herself that she is indeed that. We better wait for her response

 

[rotten_hrtz]

¿De verdad crees que eres feo/a? Y si es así, ¿por qué?

Yes, I believe it, and I believe it because I grew up hearing negative opinions from the only person I loved most, my dad.

Debería estar relacionado, su padre no dejaba de decírselo y por eso ella empieza a pensar por sí misma que, en efecto, es así. Será mejor que esperemos su respuesta.

Yes, you were right about everything you said :)

Parece que tienes un peso normal y que tu percepción de ti mismo es errónea. Si no tienes un peso normal, los GLP-1 como Ozempic funcionan muy bien y sus precios están bajando drásticamente.

Thanks for the ideas, but to be honest, the Ozempic thing scares me a little.

 

[youpi]

ozemppic

 

[eggsausagerice]

If you aren't a normal weight, GLP-1s like Ozempic work really well and the prices are coming down dramatically.

ozemppic

it feels callous to recommend ozempic to lose weight when that's just what celebrities are doing to lose it. i don't think most people can afford it and you won't know the side effects you get from ozempic until you start taking it. it's like people telling someone to take birth control if they have pmdd. i have a similar opinion about my own weight where i'm not skinny enough to be skinny and not fat enough to be fat, so i kind of hate myself for being chubby but too depressed to exercise. i really hate dieting culture on social media because thinking about restricting my calories just to be accepted by people makes me anxious. with ozempic becoming popular as a weight loss drug, i feel like we're going back to the weight watchers era.

 

[youpi]

So you're saying you didnt try ozempic ?

 

[Nwaru]

I feel you so much.

My entire life, both at school and within my family, I was bullied because I was a little overweight. At home, my father would call me a "fat cow" whenever he saw me eating anything.

When I was three years old, I tried to imitate something I had seen my mother do. She struggled with anorexia, and I remember running to the bathroom, sticking my fingers down my throat, and repeating, "Like Mommy."

Today, my weight doesn't really change, but I somehow feel stuck in between. I'm too big to be considered thin, yet too thin to be considered fat. It often feels like I don't belong anywhere.

I genuinely understand what you're going through, and honestly, I don't have any advice to offer.

I just want you to know that you're not alone.

I'm sending you all my support while you're going through this hell.

 

[eggsausagerice]

So you're saying you didnt try ozempic ?

why is ozempic considered a cure all and easy solution to body dysmorphia or bullying? it's like saying that someone's choosing to be fat if they're not taking it because it's so readily available. if i can't afford it or be prescribe it by a doctor, am i meant to imagine what my life would be like on ozempic?

 

[fadedghost]

it feels callous to recommend ozempic to lose weight when that's just what celebrities are doing to lose it. i don't think most people can afford it and you won't know the side effects you get from ozempic until you start taking it. it's like people telling someone to take birth control if they have pmdd. i have a similar opinion about my own weight where i'm not skinny enough to be skinny and not fat enough to be fat, so i kind of hate myself for being chubby but too depressed to exercise. i really hate dieting culture on social media because thinking about restricting my calories just to be accepted by people makes me anxious. with ozempic becoming popular as a weight loss drug, i feel like we're going back to the weight watchers era.

Ozempic is like 200 a month these days. Or 200 x 12 = 2400 a year. It's not super cheap, but it's worth it.

If someone is on a suicide forum containing methods for how to commit suicide, and they are in part incredibly unhappy because of being overweight, yes, it makes sense to try Ozempic.

It's not diet culture. you just inject yourself once a week and suddenly you stop wanting carbs and alcohol and fatty food and drugs in the quantity you wanted before. if you don't have horrible side effects, it's a miracle drug. It's worth every penny if you have any possible way to afford it all.

Yes, I get that it would be great if everyone had wonderful self esteem and could love themselves the way they are, but like, if that's the only thing that bothers someone a lot and they are suicidal, they should just find a way to get on Ozempic.

 

[ConfusedClouds]

Oh how big pharma has made it back into the mainstream and on-trend yet again. The capitalist world goes round.

I can see the well-meaning 'logic' of 'it might be worth investigating', however us internet strangers can't be prescribing/ recommending it as 'just take it'. I can see the point of weighing up the risks here - but it almost puts it in the category of 'just take these psych meds' 'it'll save you from yourself right now'. But there's so so so much more nuance than that. And we don't sit here on sasu just throwing psych med recommendations to each other...

Also its so new that there's a LOT of unknowns with it. For example once you start, to maintain 'results' you may well have to be on it for life. And secondly, its totally unknown how the body may react to being on it long term. So many long term meds these days are now being shown as horrific for your kidneys etc.

 

[ih34rty0u]

people recommending ozempic even though op literally said they're aren't obese is so fucked up.
why do you want everyone to be malnourished so bad omfg

 

[Forever Sleep]

I've struggled with my weight all my life. It's genuinely bad for me at the moment. The one diet that did help me- I lost over 5 stone (70 pounds) at one stage was a low carbohydrate diet. Or rather- a sensible, complex carbohydrate one. I followed this book:

The Food Doctor Everyday Diet

Love food but want to lose weight? The clearest advice yet to help you eat well and lose the pounds for good from bestselling Food Doctor Ian Marber. Packed with over 100 delicious recipes, practical answers to everyday life situations and flexible menu options - from lunch on the run to car...

www.worldofbooks.com

It takes a great deal of self discipline though. Which, I don't have for now.

I think you need to be careful though. If you already have a healthy BMI and are obsessing about your looks/ weight- I suspect you run the risk of heading into eating disorder territory. I feel like I have been on the borderlines of eating disorders in the past.

So- it may be the psychological side to it you need to address. I imagine a therapist could maybe help with low self esteem and poor body image.

 

[Bishop]

Ozempic

 

[Thalassa]

There are some sort of knock off versions of Ozempic that are cheaper. I'm afraid I don't know anything about them, but a friend told me that her in-person Weight Watchers meetings got permanently cancelled because everyone was taking the cheaper versions of Ozempic. This was like a year or two ago.

 

[iwkmsssb]

real, you're not alone in this. i'm not super skinny yet not super fat either. i got diagnosed with pcos so it makes it even harder for me to lose weight and easier for me to gain. it's a lose-lose. i've tried dieting and starving and exercising but i can only do so much when im this depressed. i have no motivation anymore and it just makes me feel more shit about my own body and self. ozempic really isn't a viable option for me either. i can only hope i lose more by starving myself, ppl hv said i lost weight during this depressive episode so i hope it keeps going. i couldn't care less about taking care of myself.

 

[rotten_hrtz]

Es una auténtica barbaridad que la gente recomiende Ozempic a pesar de que el autor del post haya dicho literalmente que no son obesos.
¿Por qué quieres que todos estén tan desnutridos? ¡Dios mío!

Lit, I hadn't checked the messages and it's kind of cruel to be recommended that

Real, no estás sola en esto. No soy súper delgada ni súper gorda. Me diagnosticaron SOP, así que me resulta aún más difícil perder peso y más fácil ganarlo. Es un círculo vicioso. He intentado hacer dieta, pasar hambre y hacer ejercicio, pero no puedo hacer mucho cuando estoy tan deprimida. Ya no tengo motivación y eso solo me hace sentir peor conmigo misma y con mi cuerpo. Ozempic tampoco es una opción viable para mí. Solo puedo esperar perder más peso pasando hambre; la gente dice que perdí peso durante este episodio depresivo, así que espero que continúe. No me importa en absoluto cuidarme.

Thank you, I understand you so much, and although I don't quite know what to say, I can only say that I understand you

Te entiendo perfectamente.

Durante toda mi vida, tanto en la escuela como en mi familia, sufrí acoso escolar por tener un poco de sobrepeso. En casa, mi padre me llamaba "vaca gorda" cada vez que me veía comer algo.

Cuando tenía tres años, intenté imitar algo que había visto hacer a mi madre. Ella sufría de anorexia, y recuerdo correr al baño, meterme los dedos en la garganta y repetir: "Como mamá".

Hoy mi peso no varía mucho, pero me siento como si estuviera en un punto intermedio. Soy demasiado grande para ser delgada, pero demasiado delgada para ser gorda. A menudo siento que no encajo en ningún sitio.

Comprendo perfectamente por lo que estás pasando y, sinceramente, no tengo ningún consejo que ofrecerte.

Solo quiero que sepas que no estás solo.

Te envío todo mi apoyo mientras atraviesas este infierno.

Thank you so much <3

He luchado con mi peso toda mi vida. En este momento, mi situación es realmente grave. La única dieta que sí me ayudó (llegué a perder más de 32 kilos) fue una dieta baja en carbohidratos. O mejor dicho, una dieta equilibrada con carbohidratos complejos. Seguí las instrucciones de este libro:

https://www.worldofbooks.com/en-gb/...BmCQ-fSW0Xjz7OfSdO0EaafuxO2nfONMaAt-YEALw_wcB

Sin embargo, requiere mucha autodisciplina. Algo que, por ahora, no tengo.

Creo que debes tener cuidado. Si ya tienes un IMC saludable y te obsesionas con tu apariencia y peso, sospecho que corres el riesgo de desarrollar un trastorno alimentario. Yo misma he estado al borde de un trastorno alimentario en el pasado.

Así que, tal vez debas abordar el aspecto psicológico. Imagino que un terapeuta podría ayudarte con la baja autoestima y la mala imagen corporal.

Thank you for the recommendations, I will follow them

 

[mutsu]

why is ozempic considered a cure all and easy solution to body dysmorphia or bullying?

yeah i dont get the whole
"hey im struggling with this"
"okay but have you tried taking ___ medication"

like 1. people can't afford these meds half the time and 2. all of these meds have different effects on different bodies

even if they could afford it theres a large chance that the meds won't even work as intended, or there will be other side effects, similar to how anti-depressants work

you cant just shove medicine down someones throat and expect the problem to go away

 

[name2come]

it feels callous to recommend ozempic to lose weight when that's just what celebrities are doing to lose it. i don't think most people can afford it and you won't know the side effects you get from ozempic until you start taking it. it's like people telling someone to take birth control if they have pmdd. i have a similar opinion about my own weight where i'm not skinny enough to be skinny and not fat enough to be fat, so i kind of hate myself for being chubby but too depressed to exercise. i really hate dieting culture on social media because thinking about restricting my calories just to be accepted by people makes me anxious. with ozempic becoming popular as a weight loss drug, i feel like we're going back to the weight watchers era.

People respond to posts in this way because deep down, at their very core, they are mean, rotten people who want to be the ones enforcing pain and suffering on the world. Whatever complaints they have in their own life haven't resulted in even an ounce of empathy. Just a shallow, petty need to be the bully. To feel that power in affirming someone else's anxieties and self loathing. At their most basic level, cruelty is all they want to offer the world. Not even because they were met with cruelty, but because it's what they value. It's who they truly are.

 

[eggsausagerice]

yeah i dont get the whole
"hey im struggling with this"
"okay but have you tried taking ___ medication"

like 1. people can't afford these meds half the time and 2. all of these meds have different effects on different bodies

even if they could afford it theres a large chance that the meds won't even work as intended, or there will be other side effects, similar to how anti-depressants work

you cant just shove medicine down someones throat and expect the problem to go away

i feel like ed culture has just been dumbed down even more to, take ozempic/purge/vape/restrict, or you're choosing to be fat. seeing ozempic (and the implied similar weight loss pills or injections if they can't afford ozempic) mentioned here by people like you can take it and be skinny the way you want to be when body dysmorphia literally changes the way you see your body even when it's healthy is crazy. it's offputting. i don't want to speak for the op, because this is obviously my own opinion. but people should be allowed to be afraid of weight loss drugs. they aren't natural. no one knows what it'll do to their body until they take them.

i've been depressed and laying in bed at night thinking about my belly fat, and i looked up online if i could buy ozempic with the intent to take it to make people like me more. that's all i would've been taking it for, because i'm not obese. i'm at a healthy weight, but i'd take a weight loss pill if i could if people would see me as more attractive and interesting to be around. it feels like so many mental health problems but especially surrounding weight and EDs get minimized to, just eat more, just eat less, and now it's "just take ozempic". what you said about being described antidepressants is true, because people thought my suicidal thoughts would just go away if i were to get back on medication when i thought the side effects were making my life worse compared to being unmedicated. i really hate anhedonia and insomnia from antidepressants. i was also always nauseous on them. i've been anti prescription medication for a long time, even though i know it helps other people. i've just always been forced to take it by doctors when i was involuntarily hospitalized and then forced to see a psychiatrist.

what leaves a bad taste in my mouth is that the idea that taking ozempic could fix your body dysmorphia/intrusive ED thoughts because it would "work" and you'd be skinny and be more confident about your body image. if someone isn't in a financial situation to afford it or they're worried about the side effects, then what are they going to do besides feel bad they can't take ozempic? even at a healthy weight i still want to be skinny, because i don't get called skinny. and i've always thought that skinny people are seen as prettier. talking about ozempic feels triggering to me because it makes me anxious about how people around me could be taking ozempic and it makes me feel like i'm missing out on losing weight, when it's not natural to want to take a weight loss drug if i literally don't need one.

 

[mutsu]

i feel like ed culture has just been dumbed down even more to, take ozempic/purge/vape/restrict, or you're choosing to be fat.

yeah i agree, i've also looked into ozempic in the past but people don't realize that just "being skinnier" won't fix body dysmorphia is goes deeper than that and its something that needs to be fixed much more holistically which is way way harder than people make it out to be.

im in the same boat as you where im not necessarily fat but im not skinny either im somewhere in the middle and people don't realize just restricting or developing an ED automatically means you become skinnier

peoples genes and metabolism just work too differently for anything to be a one size fits all kind of solution. like even if you do develop an ED for a lot of people that can involve binge eating and rebounds and its not as simple as "oh just eat X calories a day and you'll be okay"

of course i also don't want to talk for OP but telling anyone that any drug is a guarenteed way to get rid of weight and keep it off is sketchy

 

[fadedghost]

people recommending ozempic even though op literally said they're aren't obese is so fucked up.
why do you want everyone to be malnourished so bad omfg

someone can be overweight without being obese and benefit from ozempic. an overweight person taking ozempic usually doesn't end malnourished, they just don't gain more weight and hopefully lose enough weight to be in the normal range. obese is more than just overweight, but overweight isn't healthy either

yes, eating disorders are bad, but there are some people who are overweight, don't have eating disorders, and just want to be at a healthy weight.

 

[vyvanceandvodka]

i understand you. i'm sorry :(

 

[ih34rty0u]

someone can be overweight without being obese and benefit from ozempic. an overweight person taking ozempic usually doesn't end malnourished, they just don't gain more weight and hopefully lose enough weight to be in the normal range. obese is more than just overweight, but overweight isn't healthy either

yes, eating disorders are bad, but there are some people who are overweight, don't have eating disorders, and just want to be at a healthy weight.

just because you're overweight doesn't mean you should be taking ozempic. it's mainly for people with diabetes and metabolic disorders. also, some people still consider themselves "too fat" despite being a normal BMI and i guess the struggle is more mental here.

people get addicted to the effects of ozempic very easily and it has become way too common. we shouldn't normalize it as a quick fix. many people regret taking it, ozempic can really fuck up your digestive system.

 

[divinemistress87]

Im on a low dose of glp 1 tirzapetide. And the side effects are challenging the fatigue and brain fog is challenging. Im prediabetic though so trying to get insulin levels down. Anyways it can make you more depressed cause serotonin/dopamine is also made in the gut and not just the brain.

 

[CarbonBased]

I understand that people don't like thinking about this, but most of us ARE average-looking. That's just a consequence of what 'average' means. In fact, since the rise of social media what we consider 'average' has shifted so much that only a tiny fraction of people would qualify as 'above average' in terms of appearance. There's also this cliche that 'beauty is subjective'. You might be tired of hearing it at this point, but it's true. One of the best ways to internalize it is to see how different beauty standards are across cultures and historical periods. I kid you not, some people that entire nations consider beautiful, I would consider to be like a 3/10 and vice versa. There's nothing wrong with trying to change your looks in a way that makes you feel more beautiful. The issues only start when people begin to over-focus or obsess over their looks. Unfortunately, you can't be helped by just being told 'not to focus on that', otherwise I'm sure you wouldn't have that problem anymore. Still, I hope what I said brings you some comfort. Take care

 

[dreamking]

All my life I've struggled to change my body, from diets to starving myself, but it never works. I'm not obese, but I'm not slim either. I'm in a limbo where I'm too fat to be considered pretty and not fat enough to be considered obese (I don't know if that makes sense).

But it's all my dad's fault. My dad always made fun of my body and called me a cow or obese. It affected how I see myself. I don't know if I'm pretty or ugly, but I don't want to live feeling like this anymore.

Many people around me often say I'm pretty, but I don't believe it. They only say it so I don't think about it. I've thought that all my confidence problems will end when I finally end my life. Maybe then I won't feel so ugly and I can just rest.

There is nothing wrong with being Fat.... In fact, there are many of us who find fatness beautiful and unique. Please reconsider if that's the only reason you don't want to live anymore. I've always desired a fat partner that loves herself that way, but I have never been able to find one.... Be kind to yourself, and others will follow....