Majin K.

Majin K.

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Jan 9, 2020
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Well thats what i did, i took the excess ratchet strap and a simple slipknot but i got nothing but a little bit of pain in my windpipe, maybe the wrong knot. taking a carabiner for the "slipknot" seems good tho, muh less friction
Oh that clears up my confusion. Although I'll still try to attempt partial first with the excess. One of the members also suggested doing a valsalva maneuver with a balloon (exhaling until you feel lightheaded) and then attempting partial as that helped him pass out.
 
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pastamakesufasta

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Jan 28, 2020
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Oh that clears up my confusion. Although I'll still try to attempt partial first with the excess. One of the members also suggested doing a valsalva maneuver with a balloon (exhaling until you feel lightheaded) and then attempting partial as that helped him pass out.
Balloon? sHelium or do you just beeathe in the Co2 again
 
LastRide

LastRide

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Jan 23, 2020
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This is getting too confusing for me...I think there is a mix-up going on between the night-night method (officially known auto-strangulation) with ratchet or rope plus tourniquet, no attachment point required (so not considered even partial hanging). And the the partial/full hanging, where some extra help to close the carotid arteries will help but not strictly necessary. But for that to work, slipnot positioned in the right position plus anchor point is required. Maybe the problem you have comes from trying to combine the two methods and getting confused? Sorry I don't want to sound accusing but just trying to help...I always appreciate help myself too when I get too mixed up in methods...please do not take it for criticism!
 
Majin K.

Majin K.

too weak for this world
Jan 9, 2020
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Balloon? sHelium or do you just beeathe in the Co2 again
Err no. You simply inhale and exhale into the ballon until you feel lightheaded and then attempt partial.
This is getting too confusing for me...I think there is a mix-up going on between the night-night method (officially known auto-strangulation) with ratchet or rope plus tourniquet, no attachment point required (so not considered even partial hanging). And the the partial/full hanging, where some extra help to close the carotid arteries will help but not strictly necessary. But for that to work, slipnot positioned in the right position plus anchor point is required. Maybe the problem you have comes from trying to combine the two methods and getting confused? Sorry I don't want to sound accusing but just trying to help...I always appreciate help myself too when I get too mixed up in methods...please do not take it for criticism!
No mixing up here. I simply intend to use the cut off excess of the ratchet strap as a rope for partial.
 
LastRide

LastRide

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Jan 23, 2020
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Balloon? sHelium or do you just beeathe in the Co2 again
That Valsalva manoeuvre will not help at all ! It just clears the ears....I do it all the time since I have one ear permanently blocked by an old haematoma due to skull fracture....
 
Majin K.

Majin K.

too weak for this world
Jan 9, 2020
232
This is getting too confusing for me...I think there is a mix-up going on between the night-night method (officially known auto-strangulation) with ratchet or rope plus tourniquet, no attachment point required (so not considered even partial hanging). And the the partial/full hanging, where some extra help to close the carotid arteries will help but not strictly necessary. But for that to work, slipnot positioned in the right position plus anchor point is required. Maybe the problem you have comes from trying to combine the two methods and getting confused? Sorry I don't want to sound accusing but just trying to help...I always appreciate help myself too when I get too mixed up in methods...please do not take it for criticism!
Also originally I intended on simply using the whole ratchet strap as a rope for partial.
 
LastRide

LastRide

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Jan 23, 2020
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Err no. You simply inhale and exhale into the ballon until you feel lightheaded and then attempt partial.

No mixing up here. I simply intend to use the cut off excess of the ratchet strap as a rope for partial.
Sorry to bother you but please don't ! I'll hurt ! The ratchet strap is made from very abrasive material it is supposed to be used to tie hard inert materials together ! Not soft tissue ! It will not close your carotid arteries since not thick enough to get to them but just hurt your windpipe and leave a very nasty mark around your neck without ctb ! Please, don't hurt yourself don't use it ! Just trying to help you please don't take it as criticism !
 
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Majin K.

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Sorry to bother you but please don't ! I'll hurt ! The ratchet strap is made from very abrasive material it is supposed to be used to tie hard inert materials together ! Not soft tissue ! It will not close your carotid arteries since not thick enough to get to them but just hurt your windpipe and leave a very nasty mark around your neck without ctb ! Please, don't hurt yourself don't use it ! Just trying to help you please don't take it as criticism !
Then what exactly did the woman from the video use to pass out? Isn't it abrasive material as well? Are you saying that the cut off excess of the ratchet strap is too soft? It's not that I'm too stubborn to use a rope, I'm just afraid that I have no space to hide one. 4:30
 
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pastamakesufasta

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Jan 28, 2020
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I just tried again with the ratchet strap, mine is not as wide as most are, and i didn't use a slipknot, but a carabiner, some silicon spray (had it lying around) and some padding for the carabiner and i actually got to the point where i had to stop not to pass out! It works! This feels like freedom!!!
 
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Jan 9, 2020
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I just tried again with the ratchet strap, mine is not as wide as most are, and i didn't use a slipknot, but a carabiner, some silicon spray (had it lying around) and some padding for the carabiner and i actually got to the point where i had to stop not to pass out! It works! This feels like freedom!!!
What's the carabiner for? How exactly would a carabiner be used with this method? What exactly do you mean by padding for the carabiner? Could you please upload a picture? How much did it hurt your neck when you were close to passing out? Sorry for asking so many questions, but please I need to know the answers.
 
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pastamakesufasta

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Jan 28, 2020
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What's the carabiner for? How exactly would a carabiner be used with this method? What exactly do you mean by padding for the carabiner? Could you please upload a picture? How much did it hurt your neck when you were close to passing out? Sorry for asking so many questions, but please I need to know the answers.
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I found at least with that ratchet strap the slipknot doesnt slip and pull tight but more just lock up at a semi tight place, which is dangerous! you might pass out because of your weight, but as soon as convulsions start, you'll move and when its not tight/closed your brain might get oxygenated blood again. It didnt hurt with the carabiner, its just really cold in the neck, i simply folded a t shirt twice and put it there. Woah this is my breakthrough, it feels so good to be through the stage of finding your sweetspot and will it work or not struggle
 
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Majin K.

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Jan 9, 2020
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Yeah I admittedly attempted partial with the excess of the ratchet strap in a slip knot today and quickly realized that the more pressure I put on it the harder it became for the strap to become actually tight. So basically I need to buy a strap that already has a carabiner on it? Also is the folded shirt in front or behind your neck? Silly me thought one of these is somehow used with the excess of the ratchet strap.
 

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Yeah I admittedly attempted partial with the excess of the ratchet strap in a slip knot today and quickly realized that the more pressure I put on it the harder it became for the strap to become actually tight. So basically I need to buy a strap that already has a carabiner on it? Also is the folded shirt in front or behind your neck? Silly me thought one of these is somehow used with the excess of the ratchet strap.
Well i just used the ratchet strap with the hook for testing, i'll get a proper carabiner on monday and somehow attach jt to the existing strap. I have the shirt in my nevk/ right sicd, depending on where the carabiner sits but this is so much better than a slipknot
 
Majin K.

Majin K.

too weak for this world
Jan 9, 2020
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Well i just used the ratchet strap with the hook for testing, i'll get a proper carabiner on monday and somehow attach jt to the existing strap. I have the shirt in my nevk/ right sicd, depending on where the carabiner sits but this is so much better than a slipknot
So you intend on using a proper carabiner instead of the hook? Hmm guess we'll somehow have to tie one end of the cut off excess of the ratchet strap to a proper carabiner then and allow the other end to go through the carabiner. My ratchet strap didn't have a hook. I'm glad that you're here to help as I quite frankly don't think that I could hide an entire rope.
 
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martin8383784

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Dec 27, 2019
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for some reason I can't get it to work.
If I use position III and knot at the back, high, the pressure basically crushes my windpipe and wakes SI. At this point I start to get a little dizzy but still can't control the pain. Pretty much feels like a full suspension and I tried one the other day, only the pain was less.
The idea for partial is to not crush the windpipe? Or I'm missing something? Or my neck is somehow special.

In all other cases no matter if noose is low or high, I just hit the jugular vein because I feel the buildup of blood in my face and tingling in my lips. No loss of consciousness at all.
 
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nbn

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Nov 3, 2019
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for some reason I can't get it to work.
If I use position III and knot at the back, high, the pressure basically crushes my windpipe and wakes SI. At this point I start to get a little dizzy but still can't control the pain. Pretty much feels like a full suspension and I tried one the other day, only the pain was less.
The idea for partial is to not crush the windpipe? Or I'm missing something? Or my neck is somehow special.

In all other cases no matter if noose is low or high, I just hit the jugular vein because I feel the buildup of blood in my face and tingling in my lips. No loss of consciousness at all.
what is the pain level on a scale of 1 to 10
 
AfterTheRain

AfterTheRain

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Feb 1, 2020
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I actually read the whole thread after my first suicde attempt yesterday and I quite don't undestand how you do it right. I tried, I felt the blood in my head, lost my hearing, the tingling was there but it was scary af and after it didn't work I gave up. I just can't bring myself to hold my breath for so long because my instincts tell me to breath and I can't go through with it. Some people here said that they felt the symptoms but didn't pass out even after 20min - that must mean that they were breathing the whole time. So, can you actually hang yourself sucessfully while breathing?

(I'm from germany so I'm sorry if my english isn't the best lol)
 
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what is the pain level on a scale of 1 to 10
full suspension - very painful... but knot was at the back and high and I didn't experiment more.
Regarding partial depends on the pose, I'm getting to know it now so that I can experiment at home. In all cases the windpipe is crushed and I get the jugular every time.
Rarely I get the carotid but I did it once or twice. I think it is very tricky because you have to figure out the exact spot on your neck where to put the noose.
I have just couple of hours of experimenting. Today I will practice the whole day. In all cases once I increased the pressure I couldn't breathe.
If I can't get it to work I will go back to full.
So, can you actually hang yourself sucessfully while breathing?
from my tests, no
 
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AfterTheRain

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from my tests, no

Well, I guess death can't be easy but it also can't be that complicated. Many people did it and many will follow. Maybe alcohol will help a bit...I don't know. We just have to try.
 
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Well, I guess death can't be easy but it also can't be that complicated. Many people did it and many will follow. Maybe alcohol will help a bit...I don't know. We just have to try.
Definitely not. I figured out I can get a pull up bar thanks to some folks in this thread and I attached it to the door at 2m high. Good is it can be used even for full suspension without the need to go somewhere outside
 
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nbn

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Nov 3, 2019
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Definitely not. I figured out I can get a pull up bar thanks to some folks in this thread and I attached it to the door at 2m high. Good is it can be used even for full suspension without the need to go somewhere outside
Please be careful about pull up bar which is not fixed. It may fall down while u are convulsing.
 
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makeitraw

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Jan 30, 2020
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Ok guys, I just tried to hang myself and in fact this is really f**** horrible, very painful! Pentobarbital (Nembutal) would be an option if I could find a credible seller. Does anyone know?
 
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nbn

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Nov 3, 2019
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full suspension - very painful... but knot was at the back and high and I didn't experiment more.
Regarding partial depends on the pose, I'm getting to know it now so that I can experiment at home. In all cases the windpipe is crushed and I get the jugular every time.
Rarely I get the carotid but I did it once or twice. I think it is very tricky because you have to figure out the exact spot on your neck where to put the noose.
I have just couple of hours of experimenting. Today I will practice the whole day. In all cases once I increased the pressure I couldn't breathe.
If I can't get it to work I will go back to full.

from my tests, no
I have seen indian hanging videos. I am sure they did not try it before. How they are able to find that spot for the first time. Is that because it is full suspension
Ok guys, I just tried to hang myself and in fact this is really f**** horrible, very painful! Pentobarbital (Nembutal) would be an option if I could find a credible seller. Does anyone know?
partial or full
full suspension - very painful... but knot was at the back and high and I didn't experiment more.
Regarding partial depends on the pose, I'm getting to know it now so that I can experiment at home. In all cases the windpipe is crushed and I get the jugular every time.
Rarely I get the carotid but I did it once or twice. I think it is very tricky because you have to figure out the exact spot on your neck where to put the noose.
I have just couple of hours of experimenting. Today I will practice the whole day. In all cases once I increased the pressure I couldn't breathe.
If I can't get it to work I will go back to full.

from my tests, no
Before joing this forum, I thought that hanging is the easiest and 100% sure way to die. I have never imagined that thre will be these many failures with hanging.
 
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martin8383784

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Dec 27, 2019
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I have seen indian hanging videos. I am sure they did not try it before. How they are able to find that spot for the first time. Is that because it is full suspension

partial or full

Before joing this forum, I thought that hanging is the easiest and 100% sure way to die. I have never imagined that thre will be these many failures with hanging.
it is sure, if full. Partial aims to reduce discomfort achieving the same result but is much trickier.
Ok guys, I just tried to hang myself and in fact this is really f**** horrible, very painful! Pentobarbital (Nembutal) would be an option if I could find a credible seller. Does anyone know?
Nembutal cannot be found it is full with scammy websites. The other option is Sotrium Nitrite or Azide, check out their megathread on the Resources page.
Please be careful about pull up bar which is not fixed. It may fall down while u are convulsing.
I tested it and hanging from it with jumps up and down and surprisingly is very stable
 
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Before joing this forum, I thought that hanging is the easiest and 100% sure way to die. I have never imagined that thre will be these many failures with hanging.
Me too buddy, me too.

I don't know if you guys tried it before, but I used the window - worked actually pretty good. I just opend it, dropped one side of the rope outside, the noose inside my room and closed it. With the window technique you don't have to worry about the toolbar braking. It's pretty stable
 
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martin8383784

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Dec 27, 2019
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Me too buddy, me too.

I don't know if you guys tried it before, but I used the window - worked actually pretty good. I just opend it, dropped one side of the rope outside, the noose inside my room and closed it. With the window technique you don't have to worry about the toolbar braking. It's pretty stable
that's good unless your neighbors suspect some random rope hanging from the window on the outside.
 
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AfterTheRain

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Feb 1, 2020
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that's good unless your neighbors suspect some random rope hanging from the window on the outside.
Yeah that's not really discreed and I wouldn't recommend doing it with the bright sun still shining outside lol
but at night it should be fine.
 
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pastamakesufasta

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Jan 28, 2020
51
Guys seriously try the carabiner! rope runs a lot easier through that and you don't get the problem with the knot not fully tightening
 
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makeitraw

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Before joing this forum, I thought that hanging is the easiest and 100% sure way to die. I have never imagined that thre will be these many failures with hanging.

Why do you fail? Don't you think that your failures are related to the fear you have of death? What kind of failures are you talking about?

I tried to hang, my feet was like 70% on the ground, I just wanted to feel the pressure and a couple of times I felt really dizzy so I believe if I do full I die. What is difficult for me is to handle with the pain in my neck and the lack of comfort of course.
 

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