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I am decided to hang myself...and Indians are more successful for hanging themselves... I wish my live death will clear lot of doubts about hanging... It may be useful for others who are willing to die...
 
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I am decided to hang myself...and Indians are more successful for hanging themselves... I wish my live death will clear lot of doubts about hanging... It may be useful for others who are willing to die...
I personally would like to see your method and the whole process until the end, since hanging is part of my options for ctb....but I can also understand if other people would rather not see it.
 
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Guys my Ratchet for the Night Night method arrived!
 
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This was a really informative and easy to read study of 6 videoed partial suspension ctb's, some of which occurred as a result of autoerotic asphyxiation. Across the board, all lost consciousness in 20 seconds or less, and after a few short phases of approximately equal duration, died between 1 3/4 and 8 minutes. So, loss of consciousness 10-20 seconds, death in less than 10 minutes total. If you've seen the video on this thread of the successful partial, each stage correlates with those in this study.

https://practicalhomicide.com/Research/JFSaug2010.pdf
Good read, thank you for sharing. I found this part quite interesting:

"The rapid loss of consciousness (in 8–18 sec) observed in this study supports the general affirmation found in forensic textbooks that hanging causes unconsciousness in an average of 10 sec (2,3). It is also in keeping with an old study by Rossen et al. (8): inflation of a pressure cuff on the neck of 85 male volunteers caused loss of consciousness in 5–11 sec."

Inflating something around the neck that closes the arteries never came to my mind before. The only video I could find was this one of somebody playing around with a blood pressure meter around his neck as a party gag, but he neither passes out nor does he look comfortable. I assume the same rules as for the night-night method apply; you'd have to put pressure on the arteries without blocking the windpipe. I'm wondering how they did that with the pressure cuff in their study.
 
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Majin K.

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Iam thinking about live suicide... Anyone interested..?
There really is no need to. Such videos already exist in the form of people who died during the choking game. Besides should you fail who knows what might happen. Someone might send the video to the police etc.
Good read, thank you for sharing. I found this part quite interesting:

"The rapid loss of consciousness (in 8–18 sec) observed in this study supports the general affirmation found in forensic textbooks that hanging causes unconsciousness in an average of 10 sec (2,3). It is also in keeping with an old study by Rossen et al. (8): inflation of a pressure cuff on the neck of 85 male volunteers caused loss of consciousness in 5–11 sec."

Inflating something around the neck that closes the arteries never came to my mind before. The only video I could find was this one of somebody playing around with a blood pressure meter around his neck as a party gag, but he neither passes out nor does he look comfortable. I assume the same rules as for the night-night method apply; you'd have to put pressure on the arteries without blocking the windpipe. I'm wondering how they did that with the pressure cuff in their study.
Even if you block the windpipe you should still easily pass out. You only have to endure at most 20 seconds in which you're feeling uncomfortable. Today I'm going to attempt to CTB the same way the woman from the video passed out.
 
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If I were to attempt hanging again, I would do total and not partial, I don't want to risk being a vegetable for ever if it went wrong
 
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If I were to attempt hanging again, I would do total and not partial, I don't want to risk being a vegetable for ever if it went wrong
I mean if you skip the hanging part and just tighten a ratchet strap there is no way that you should survive after passing out. Of course with partial you don't know what will happen after you pass out.
 
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Good read, thank you for sharing. I found this part quite interesting:

"The rapid loss of consciousness (in 8–18 sec) observed in this study supports the general affirmation found in forensic textbooks that hanging causes unconsciousness in an average of 10 sec (2,3). It is also in keeping with an old study by Rossen et al. (8): inflation of a pressure cuff on the neck of 85 male volunteers caused loss of consciousness in 5–11 sec."

Inflating something around the neck that closes the arteries never came to my mind before. The only video I could find was this one of somebody playing around with a blood pressure meter around his neck as a party gag, but he neither passes out nor does he look comfortable. I assume the same rules as for the night-night method apply; you'd have to put pressure on the arteries without blocking the windpipe. I'm wondering how they did that with the pressure cuff in their study.
I have read that old article. They specially designed to put a pressure which can compress the carotids.All the prisoners lost the consciousness.I do not know whz some people in this forum were unable to achieve it
 
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Got the idea for a 250kg ratchet strap from the night night method, seems to be a good idea for partial, will try and test tonight and hopefully ctb on Monday
 
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Does anyone ever thought about doing a double or triple suicide? I mean, meeting someone from this forum and do the job together to avoid failings or regrets in the last moment. Do you?
 
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Too much effort tbh and I don't see the point. I think the people desiring to do such a thing simply don't have the courage to do it alone.
 
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Too much effort tbh and I don't see the point. I think the people desiring to do such a thing simply don't have the courage to do it alone.

I agree, make things psychologically easier. But in my opinion many people that are here with questions and N partial attempts also don't have the courage to do so, that's why I was wondering if a multiple suicide could make things definitely done or, on the other way, clarify confusion minds. It may sound stupid but...
 
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I guess drinking something seems more "natural" than hanging or whatever, but in the last step it's always SI, which so overcomes or not. If you mean by multiple suicide that many people contribute, I have to think about this cult mass suicide. Idk the cult anymore, but I think it was in the US. What also was interesting, how I changed my feelings, when looking at the death numbers going up on this worldwide population counting website.
 
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Does anyone ever thought about doing a double or triple suicide? I mean, meeting someone from this forum and do the job together to avoid failings or regrets in the last moment. Do you?
Depends, if there are any people within 500km of my area i'm willing to. Can i ask what country you're from?
 
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Does anyone ever thought about doing a double or triple suicide? I mean, meeting someone from this forum and do the job together to avoid failings or regrets in the last moment. Do you?
Mmhh....to be honest I've thought about it, and decided against it....for the following reasons 1) it was difficult in your life dealing with people you had to tolerate around yourself but could not really sympathise with, what's the guarantee you're not going to end up spending your last hours with some people who you could really do without? 2) you have to agree on the method, and quite precisely so, to make the timelines paralell - knowing how difficult that is in the first place, and how much can go wrong and has to be adjusted last minute, it just seems like adding an extra difficulty to an already quite complicated task 3) you say it might help to overcome last-minute SI if you're in a group....are you sure? what if it's the contrary, you yourself are totally sure, concentrated, ready, organsised, but one of the group is not....in the interest of kind human interaction that this site seems to favour overall, it would then require you to break it off to assist the person who has had a last minute change of mind....and you're stuck for another round in the shit up to your neck and you might even get into trouble with the legal system ! Is it really worth it? Yes, if I was sure of my partner, because we've been friends for ages and really trust each other, I would consider it a good idea - at least your last moment will be less lonely. But that's not a partner you meet here in the forum to ctb three days later !
 
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Depends, if there are any people within 500km of my area i'm willing to. Can i ask what country you're from?

From Portugal. Guess that can be difficult for me to find anyone close from here...
Mmhh....to be honest I've thought about it, and decided against it....for the following reasons 1) it was difficult in your life dealing with people you had to tolerate around yourself but could not really sympathise with, what's the guarantee you're not going to end up spending your last hours with some people who you could really do without? 2) you have to agree on the method, and quite precisely so, to make the timelines paralell - knowing how difficult that is in the first place, and how much can go wrong and has to be adjusted last minute, it just seems like adding an extra difficulty to an already quite complicated task 3) you say it might help to overcome last-minute SI if you're in a group....are you sure? what if it's the contrary, you yourself are totally sure, concentrated, ready, organsised, but one of the group is not....in the interest of kind human interaction that this site seems to favour overall, it would then require you to break it off to assist the person who has had a last minute change of mind....and you're stuck for another round in the shit up to your neck and you might even get into trouble with the legal system ! Is it really worth it? Yes, if I was sure of my partner, because we've been friends for ages and really trust each other, I would consider it a good idea - at least your last moment will be less lonely. But that's not a partner you meet here in the forum to ctb three days later !

yeah, maybe you're right about spending our last hours with a stranger... even though I feel a stranger myself and feel lonely even being with my parents or anyone else.
 
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(Due to a few complications I have decided to delay my CTB date...)
 
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IMG 20200201 102153 i have brought this rope.. What's your opinion guys...??
 
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View attachment 26058i have brought this rope.. What's your opinion guys...??
looks good to me ! Strong but not too rigid, the knot will not slip or become undone (like happened with my belt on my first attempt!). What technique are you planning to use? Partial or full? Position of the knot? Do you plan on using something extra on your carotid arteries to make them close faster?
 
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looks good to me ! Strong but not too rigid, the knot will not slip or become undone (like happened with my belt on my first attempt!). What technique are you planning to use? Partial or full? Position of the knot? Do you plan on using something extra on your carotid arteries to make them close faster?
Trying partial first... If i dint succeed, going to the full immediately... Left side of my neck is the knot position...
 
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what happened
I became somewhat unsure if leaning down with the ratchet strap was the right way to go as I could feel most of the pressure being applied to the front and positioning it was a pain. Or if I should just use the cut off excess of the ratchet strap to make a slip knot or if should just tighten the ratchet strap normally. So I decided to go to sleep and to take some time to think it through. I would certainly like to CTB before Monday as I'll need to make an extremely boring business trip and since I want to die anyways that seems like a good deadline.
 
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I became somewhat unsure if leaning down with the ratchet strap was the right way to go as I could feel most of the pressure being applied to the front and positioning it was a pain. Or if I should just use the cut off excess of the ratchet strap to make a slip knot or if should just tighten the ratchet strap normally. So I decided to go to sleep and to take some time to think it through. I would certainly like to CTB before Monday as I'll need to make an extremely boring business trip and since I want to die anyways that seems like a good deadline

you can go to business trip.May be u can buy one more day
Trying partial first... If i dint succeed, going to the full immediately... Left side of my neck is the knot position...
Are u there
 
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Bought balloons today since that should make it easier to pass out like Trjan suggested (valsalva maneuver) and when I do attempt to CTB the next time I'll use the excess of the ratchet strap to make a slip knot seeing that pasta said on the night night thread that simply tightening the ratchet strap wasn't as effective as partial for him. I'm really glad this community exists.
 
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Bought balloons today since that should make it easier to pass out like Trjan suggested (valsalva maneuver) and when I do attempt to CTB the next time I'll use the excess of the ratchet strap to make a slip knot seeing that pasta said on the night night thread that simply tightening the ratchet strap wasn't as effective as partial for him. I'm really glad this community exists.
I tried some partial positions with the ratchet strap, and i got a little tingly feeling once, but never close to passing out even after a minute, but no pressure in my head either, so it cant be the jugulars, tho i really put pressure on there, i wven took my feet off the ground. im thinking a slipknot might not be the best option
 
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Hanging is the only method I can use. The issue is I'm afraid of the agony of suffocation. I've tried compressing my carotid artery with my fingers to test, I felt very dizzy, but I can't lose consciousness because I can't breath and the agony of breathlessness gets too intense, I have to stop. I've read that hanging is easy and only a little short discomfort. But it doesn't seem like that to me. I'm afraid.
 
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Hanging is the only method I can use. The issue is I'm afraid of the agony of suffocation. I've tried compressing my carotid artery with my fingers to test, I felt very dizzy, but I can't lose consciousness because I can't breath and the agony of breathlessness gets too intense, I have to stop. I've read that hanging is easy and only a little short discomfort. But it doesn't seem like that to me. I'm afraid.

i think it's not easy for anyone. We all need to breath to live so when something or someone just put you in a discomfort situation where you can't breath, the body immediately reacts as a defense and a sign of desperation/survival. The only thing I think to avoid giving up is that, afterwards, we will not feel or remember anything anymore...
 
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I tried some partial positions with the ratchet strap, and i got a little tingly feeling once, but never close to passing out even after a minute, but no pressure in my head either, so it cant be the jugulars, tho i really put pressure on there, i wven took my feet off the ground. im thinking a slipknot might not be the best option
That's a contradicting statement. If I you couldn't pass out using the ratchet strap for partial wouldn't the next logical step be to simply cut off the excess of the ratchet strap and try again by using the excess in a slip knot?
Hanging is the only method I can use. The issue is I'm afraid of the agony of suffocation. I've tried compressing my carotid artery with my fingers to test, I felt very dizzy, but I can't lose consciousness because I can't breath and the agony of breathlessness gets too intense, I have to stop. I've read that hanging is easy and only a little short discomfort. But it doesn't seem like that to me. I'm afraid.
Think of it this way. Do you want to endure years in which you're going to have negative experiences over and over again while being stuck in a limbo where you want to die, but are too scared to do it or endure pain for one final moment to end your own life?
 
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That's a contradicting statement. If I you couldn't pass out using the ratchet strap for partial wouldn't the next logical step be to simply cut off the excess of the ratchet strap and try again by using the excess in a slip knot?

Think of it this way. Do you want to endure years in which you're going to have negative experiences over and over again while being stuck in a limbo where you want to die, but are too scared to do it or endure pain for one final moment to end your own life?
Well thats what i did, i took the excess ratchet strap and a simple slipknot but i got nothing but a little bit of pain in my windpipe, maybe the wrong knot. taking a carabiner for the "slipknot" seems good tho, muh less friction
 

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