Resource How to hang yourself

[AllWentWrong]

No pics.
You will need to practice until you find a good way to use it.

My question is can I use a door hinge as an anchor to support my weight in partial suspension hanging?

I couldn't use the Strap rated 830 that I talked about above. I'm using a narrower tie down strap rated at 500 lbs.

The door hinge is the on a closet or a room door.

The closet door is kind of small. I can go with a room door hinge.

I will either be kneeling or crouched on my toes. I'm 180 lbs.

 

[xorxyz]

So I guess I'm a huge idiot and got a rope that has WAY too much length on it. Is there a way to shorten it or perhaps tie it to the anchor in a different way? I'm using a decently thick braided polypropylene rope.

 

[purelydaft]

Yes, of course. You could cut it with a sharp knife and then burn the ends with a lighter or hot metal. You can wrap the excess around something and then tie it to the anchor. Get creative, I guess.

 

[xorxyz]

Yes, of course. You could cut it with a sharp knife and then burn the ends with a lighter or hot metal. You can wrap the excess around something and then tie it to the anchor. Get creative, I guess.

That last bit about cutting it has got me a tad confused. Why should I burn the ends once I do cut it? Would it be more difficult to tie or easier for it to break/come undone otherwise?

 

[lifeinsequins]

how can u insure u wont wake up brain damaged?

Make sure your rope is tied well so that it doesn't come loose or undone when you start convulsing. If your knot is tied well it shouldn't come undone when most of your (nearly) dead weight is on it.

That last bit about cutting it has got me a tad confused. Why should I burn the ends once I do cut it? Would it be more difficult to tie or easier for it to break/come undone otherwise?

Burning the ends melts it a bit and keeps it from fraying so it's a neat end to your rope. No it's not more difficult to tie and doesn't make it easier to break or come undone. This is what people who need strong ropes do like tying up your sailboat or other heavy things. In addition to cutting/burning it you could also tie bowline knots at the time of it to whatever it's hanging from to use some length in the loop. My ropes were really long and I cut and burned one end and have a large bowline knot tied at the top so I can raise/lower it as needed and also didn't know how much length my slipknot at the bottom would take up (it used more than I was expecting). I have a photo posted on the previous page of this discussion if you want to see.

 

[Docc]

what thickness is recommended? 6 or 8mm

 

[JesiBel]

what thickness is recommended? 6 or 8mm

A very thin rope will penetrate too deeply into the neck and conscious seconds may hurt a little more. The one I have is almost as thick as a finger, 12 mm. Make sure it can withstand your full weight.

 

[Docc]

yeah its a climbing rope holding 360kg bit only. 8mm maybe i should go for 10

 

[xorxyz]

yeah its a climbing rope holding 360kg bit only. 8mm maybe i should go for 10

that should work fine as long as everything is correctly tied and tightened. Just try it out and experiment with it and if it is just plain uncomfortable for you, go for the 10.

 

[Docc]

After looking more at all the available methods. I wonder why partial hanging has such a bad rep. If done probaply you are out within seconds. Its not as easy as swallowing SN but it does seem the one with the least suffering

 

[xorxyz]

Well, I guess I got the toughest fucking rope available because I've cut at it for quite a bit now and it just will not seperate. I think I'm just gonna trash it for now as I've surely compromised the rope's strength and try to get a cheaper one ASAP (hopefully a bit thinner and a lot shorter!)

Edit: Used a different blade and it cut like butter. I'm back to excited again :D I cut it about 2.25 meters from the noose, hopefully that'll be good enough. All that's left for me is to find a suitable spot, which is personally the most challenging step... I might have to wait anyway.

 

[AllWentWrong]

Holy. It's pretty scary when you do block some blood flow. Ahh. Survival instinct is real. My life is scary as hell but so laying on the floor with a rope around my neck.

Hope you're still around and doing Ok.

Just curious are you on your stomach with your head suspended up by the noose?

I haven't seen many descriptions on here as to how the lying down method works.

I have my rope at the same height as you but I'm kneeling. It's not working too well.

 

[Suicidal_manlet]

Fuck, I can't make myself pass out by closing my hand, it's over.

it's not a big deal, it's pretty difficult to make yourself pass out just though your hands unless you have some health issues

 

[3FailedAttemptss]

So, is the slip knot what goes around my neck? What sort of knot do I use to tie it around the anchor point - 'm going to be using a door handle.

 

[evanescent_eva]

So, is the slip knot what goes around my neck? What sort of knot do I use to tie it around the anchor point - 'm going to be using a door handle.

You want a noose knot, not a slip knot. This video shows how to tie a noose knot in ~10 seconds. The noose knot also works for the anchor point, but if you want a different knot, I'm personally using this knot for my anchor point. Good luck in whatever you decide to do :3

 

[3FailedAttemptss]

You want a noose knot, not a slip knot. This video shows how to tie a noose knot in ~10 seconds. The noose knot also works for the anchor point, but if you want a different knot, I'm personally using this knot for my anchor point. Good luck in whatever you decide to do :3

I tried a few times w/ the noose knot you suggested, for the anchor point I just used regular double knot. I was really leaning my entire body weight and then some, but nothing was happening, other than my trachea and jugular are being compressed.

I'm using a lace string from one of my hoodies, so it's a quite thin rope or string, but it's all I got to work with.

What am I doing wrong?

 

[evanescent_eva]

I tried a few times w/ the noose knot you suggested, for the anchor point I just used regular double knot. I was really leaning my entire body weight and then some, but nothing was happening, other than my trachea and jugular are being compressed.

I'm using a lace string from one of my hoodies, so it's a quite thin rope or string, but it's all I got to work with.

What am I doing wrong?

It may be possible that you can't hang yourself with a lace string, especially if it's really stretchy. It may also be possible that partial won't work for you because you aren't able to find your sweet spot - you wouldn't be the first! With that said, assuming hypothetically that your choice of ligature will work, I believe that finding your sweet spot usually comes down to the following three variables:

• The height of the noose: For most people, the higher the position of the noose along their neck, the better. For me, I try to have the noose tucked right underneath my chin. For others, it could be a little lower on the neck, but still above the middle of the neck. Experiment with different heights!
• The angle of the force: Oftentimes when people try partial suspension, the ligature that they use pulls the noose at an angle, or even straight back, so that the ligature is at a 90-degree angle with your neck. One of the reasons full suspension is so successful is that, when hanging, the rope pulls straight up on the noose, so that the rope is pulling parallel to and above your neck. Try experimenting with the angle your rope is pulling – you may get different results!
• The amount of force: It's a truism in partial hanging that people who aren't hitting their sweet spot just aren't applying enough force to their necks to compress their carotid arteries. Try using more force if you're still having trouble!

If that's all too abstract, maybe try the following experiment, ripped shamelessly from Evelyn's Hanging Guide: Tie a noose with your string. Put it around your neck as high up as possible, just below the chin. Tighten the string, making sure that the knot is perfectly behind your neck. Exhale fully and take a deep breath and hold it. Then immediately pull the string upwards as hard as you can, above your head with one hand, while continuing to hold your breath. If done right, and if it works for you, you should start to spasm after 5-15 seconds. This could also lead to very, very brief loss of consciousness.

The above info is how I found my sweet spot consistently. Hopefully it helps you find yours :3

 

[3FailedAttemptss]

If that's all too abstract, maybe try the following experiment, ripped shamelessly from Evelyn's Hanging Guide: Tie a noose with your string. Put it around your neck as high up as possible, just below the chin. Tighten the string, making sure that the knot is perfectly behind your neck. Exhale fully and take a deep breath and hold it. Then immediately pull the string upwards as hard as you can, above your head with one hand, while continuing to hold your breath. If done right, and if it works for you, you should start to spasm after 5-15 seconds. This could also lead to very, very brief loss of consciousness.

I did this twice, and the furthest I got was this sensation that started in my toes and went all the way up to my body. It just felt like I had to throw up. My hearing went as well, but my vision didn't fade, and I didn't go unconscious, and I didn't spaz out.

 

[3FailedAttemptss]

I did this twice, and the furthest I got was this sensation that started in my toes and went all the way up to my body. It just felt like I had to throw up. My hearing went as well, but my vision didn't fade, and I didn't go unconscious, and I didn't spaz out.

Is it possible to just not have the correct anatomy for partial hanging to be successful?

 

[liza]

I placed the knot in front of my neck instead of the back how normally everyone does and I felt more compression this way then I did by putting the knot in the back. Is this normal ?

 

[EgoBrained]

I placed the knot in front of my neck instead of the back how normally everyone does and I felt more compression this way then I did by putting the knot in the back. Is this normal ?

I assume that, since the rope was in front of your face, you had to look up, extending the neck, which I found out that for myself it exposes the carotids making them easier to compress. You should try putting pressure with the knot on the back and have your neck extended, see how that turns out.

 

[liza]

I assume that, since the rope was in front of your face, you had to look up, extending the neck, which I found out that for myself it exposes the carotids making them easier to compress. You should try putting pressure with the knot on the back and have your neck extended, see how that turns out.

No I mean like the knot was placed on the back of my neck which in hanging suicide doesn't normally occur. Literally the back of the neck. And I felt more compression to my arteries than the (front) (normally you would think all suicides are from the front) however mine was felt from the back of the neck

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I placed the knot in front of my neck instead of the back how normally everyone does and I felt more compression this way then I did by putting the knot in the back. Is this normal ?

The knot always goes at the back of the neck. I'm not even sure how hanging could work with the knot in front. That would be really, kind of, awkward, I would think, with the vertical part of the rope right on your face.

 

[waros]

I just felt THIS. I turned off for a moment!

 

[JesiBel]

Calculation of tension exerted on a ligature in incomplete hanging
(Author: Vladislav D. Khokhlov)

(I found the complete PDF, which includes drawings of each posture and calculations. The file is attached below)

I think it is a good information source for those who have opted for Partial Hanging, and to know which position would be the most appropriate.

Since choosing a position where more weight is applied will make it easier to block the carotid arteries. (Clarifying that the correct positioning of the ligature and knot is also essential)

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Brief summary...

Body positions are presented:

• in standing posture the ligature is stretched by more than 65% of the body weight
• in kneeling position by 64–74%
• in sitting by 17–32%
• in recumbent posture by less than 18% of the body weight



Strength of the neck compression in hanging depends on many factors, including body position in the loop.

In complete (full) hanging the loop is tightened by the whole body weight.

In incomplete (partial) hanging some of the body weight (15–81%) rests on the floor, thus decreasing the strain of the ligature.

Position of the body parts in incomplete hanging is determined by numerous circumstances, e.g. length of the rope end and the height of its attachment, characteristics of the surroundings and other details (position of the body before hanging, binding of the extremities, pathology of the weight-bearing and locomotor apparatus, etc).

The results of the calculation show similarity in minimum part of the weight, affecting the ligature in standing and kneeling positions. In both postures the head, trunk and upper extremities, making up nearly 60% of the total body weight, hang completely. So tension of the ligature in these positions of hanging will be always significantly higher than in sitting and lying positions, when the trunk is set against the support.

At the same time, variants of hanging in standing position have weight range more than three times as wide as in kneeling position. This explains higher percent of injuries to the hyoid bone and laryngeal cartilages in standing position of hanging compared to the kneeling one.

Strain on a ligature in sitting and lying positions is noticeably lower and these two weight ranges practically do not intersect.

Research: Source

 

[Realgar]

Very interesting and informative. Thank you for posting!!

 

[Realgar]

Severe damage to the neck structures will occur. That is why is has to be done correctly the first time!!!

 

[hellocana]

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The knot always goes at the back of the neck. I'm not even sure how hanging could work with the knot in front. That would be really, kind of, awkward, I would think, with the vertical part of the rope right on your face.

I'd imagine you'd lean backwards or something. I'm also curious how this would work, es
I have a wool scarf that I plan on folding. Should work?
I have a wool scarf that I plan on folding. Should work?

 

[Poiter1987]

This page is dis heartening as its a bunch of people who can't get this method to work. But in reminded of the saying. Dead men tell no tales. No one who is successful will be on here saying it worked.
If i miss the carotid arteries and asphyxiate to death im still dead right?

 

[ZoloftSüchtig]

I have this pull up bar and I had quite an easy time getting to that passing out feeling while on my knees but the problem is that I was like maybe 3 steps away from the door(the pull up bar is at the entrance of the room where the door is) so the noose was quite low meaning what if I move after passing out and somehow move back meaning it would put pressure off my neck. I am afraid that would hinder my attempt. I have tried kneeling right under the pull up bar but for whatever reason its harder to get to that passing out feeling and feels more uncomfortable. I suck at english, idk if I explained it well