Position 3 makes the most sense..suspension by the neck...it puts the most amount of weight on the neck...OP found this position most effective in his trial runs..and, in the livestream of the swedish guy hanging himself, he was in this position
Position 3 makes the most sense..suspension by the neck...it puts the most amount of weight on the neck...OP found this position most effective in his trial runs..and, in the livestream of the swedish guy hanging himself, he was in this position
GoodPersonEffed
Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
- Jan 11, 2020
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Going to try position 3 now. No chance of being interrupted so if I don't come back on it was successful. If it was unsuccessful, will post here shortly.
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Way too uncomfortable, didn't even make it to putting my full weight.
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Now I really understand why the leaning methods are preferable, to try to just pass out, the discomfort of method 3 was way too intense for me.
In comparison, I imagine having been in the World Trade Center. I am so terrified of heights, jumping would not have been an option for me, no matter how afraid of the fire I was. Similarly, option 3 is not an option for me, no matter that it would potentially only take 10-20 seconds, inside it's the same kind of big no.
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Way too uncomfortable, didn't even make it to putting my full weight.
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Now I really understand why the leaning methods are preferable, to try to just pass out, the discomfort of method 3 was way too intense for me.
In comparison, I imagine having been in the World Trade Center. I am so terrified of heights, jumping would not have been an option for me, no matter how afraid of the fire I was. Similarly, option 3 is not an option for me, no matter that it would potentially only take 10-20 seconds, inside it's the same kind of big no.
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hi there,
I am committed to do full suspension hanging though I see very conflicting information on these forums and elsewhere. Please help me figure out the right approach. I want to do full suspension (short on no drop with a stool or just dropping from anchor point) from a tree branch somewhere in an isolated area
1. From what I see semi static rope is best for this case. I am planning to use 10mm semi static polyamide rope.
I read that dynamic ropes that stretch are no good since the noose might not tighten correctly.
2. What type of knot... there is a lot of conflicting information as for what type of knot should be used. Full suspension (short drop) is what I'll be trying because of the reliability.
Hangman knot is no good since it creates friction and doesn't tighten, while I fear the simple noose or slip knot are not reliable in this scenario? They look like they might loosen if something pulls down from inside the knot
I also saw reports of noose not tightening because the polyamide static rope is not soft.
From what I see, a tightening knot should be used as this will help compress the arteries and pass out quickly?
3. Position of knot relative to the neck. From what I see just below the jaw (high on the neck and behind the neck) is better since it will compress both arteries along with the windpipe of course. I saw reports of 1-3 minutes of consciosness but I can't figure out how this is possible since the rope will most likely compress the arteries.
Please assist me good people and do not troll me. I am serious in doing this and I want to do it one time I can't afford staying alive after trying
I am committed to do full suspension hanging though I see very conflicting information on these forums and elsewhere. Please help me figure out the right approach. I want to do full suspension (short on no drop with a stool or just dropping from anchor point) from a tree branch somewhere in an isolated area
1. From what I see semi static rope is best for this case. I am planning to use 10mm semi static polyamide rope.
I read that dynamic ropes that stretch are no good since the noose might not tighten correctly.
2. What type of knot... there is a lot of conflicting information as for what type of knot should be used. Full suspension (short drop) is what I'll be trying because of the reliability.
Hangman knot is no good since it creates friction and doesn't tighten, while I fear the simple noose or slip knot are not reliable in this scenario? They look like they might loosen if something pulls down from inside the knot
I also saw reports of noose not tightening because the polyamide static rope is not soft.
From what I see, a tightening knot should be used as this will help compress the arteries and pass out quickly?
3. Position of knot relative to the neck. From what I see just below the jaw (high on the neck and behind the neck) is better since it will compress both arteries along with the windpipe of course. I saw reports of 1-3 minutes of consciosness but I can't figure out how this is possible since the rope will most likely compress the arteries.
Please assist me good people and do not troll me. I am serious in doing this and I want to do it one time I can't afford staying alive after trying
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gardi
Member
- Nov 21, 2019
- 31
And again, complete setbacks. I have time and I decided to act gradually. First you need to find the carotid arteries with your hands.
The muscle that covers the carotid artery is quite thin, and it is fairly easy to find. It is enough to move your finger to the side of the Adam's apple. One feels where it ends and another begins.
It is necessary in some way to exert pressure on this place. There is no point in putting pressure on the trachea and in front of the neck.
Pressure on the neck should be from the sides rather than the front. The pressure in the front of the neck effectively blocks the jugular veins, as I have already seen.
The muscle that covers the carotid artery is quite thin, and it is fairly easy to find. It is enough to move your finger to the side of the Adam's apple. One feels where it ends and another begins.
It is necessary in some way to exert pressure on this place. There is no point in putting pressure on the trachea and in front of the neck.
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Leaning positions dont work. Period. The forum is full of unsucessful attempt reports.
Do you think, it could be made more comfortable by padding? What kind of discomfort is it?
Full suspension with a short drop may be the way for me. I think the rope I have is strong enough, but I could always get another. These are definitely very informative, though.
check out my post above as this is the method I'll be executing
GoodPersonEffed
Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
- Jan 11, 2020
- 6,727
Please accept what I said in my last post in the last two paragraphs, which you quoted. I made it clear that my response to this method is a very strong no. I'm not going to explain anything more about the attempt and why it is not an option for me.
I disagree with you that leaning suspensions don't work, they just don't work for everyone, and I think it's an anatomical issue. There is proof that they do work for some, there are photos on this thread, there is the cbt of a notable celebrity leaning forward on a chair. There are countless autoerotic suspensions that have accidentally ended in death. This is why I had a Hmpf! react to your post, because your statement that leanings don't work, period, is erroneous, and if others read that and, ahem, lean toward believing it, they can see that there is disagreement.
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I am definitely curious, though. Would that 10mm seem
Regarding that, if memory serves me correctly, I thought that the knot being on the left side was better? Mainly because the rope would put the pressure on the artery on the right side of the neck. The one that leads to the brain (pretty sure that's the one that leads to that), and should cause unconsciousness rather quickly. Gravity while you're out would do the rest. Don't quote me on the correct anatomy, though. 10mm rope may be fine. Testing the tensile strength to see what it can hold beforehand isn't a bad idea.
indeed this is what I read. I guess this is mostly true for partial and since I am not going to use partial but full, maybe it doesn't really matter, because your full body weight pressures the knot. If you place the rope high on neck and the knot behind or to the left I don't think it would matter as anyway the arteries will be compressed. Assuming your full weight. Please correct me if I'm wrong... I really want to go with this soon
Throwmyselfaway
Not gone yet but soon
- Jan 14, 2020
- 798
I've been reading this huge thread for days. I tried with my robe belt . Didn't tie it right. Finally got the knot correct and I started blacking out. Don't think I'll use the robe belt but at least I know I'm hitting the right spot and have the right knot.
Predestinated
Student
- Jan 9, 2019
- 127
As you can see on the picture, one side of the loop is crooked / skewed. The loop is not symmetric. I've tried with different types of slipknots, but the side on the right is always skewed.
Could this cause problems? Because one side of the neck will have more pressure than the other side.
Could this cause problems? Because one side of the neck will have more pressure than the other side.
gardi
Member
- Nov 21, 2019
- 31
Can hyperventilation help with partial hanging? After 1 minute of quick breathing, I have a very big weakness in my whole body, I have great difficulty maintaining balance, staggering, dizzy. What do you think about this?
Tips for tying my rope to the resistance band door hanger? There is a loop the rope goes through. What's the strongest knot to use?
Elekrel
Member
- Oct 31, 2019
- 15
I have tried the partial hanging. I went unconscious and felt lightheaded. It was working before, the knot that held the rope to the hook became undone. Unconscious and face first into the floor, spooked the fuck out of me for sure.
gardi
Member
- Nov 21, 2019
- 31
My theory. To block the carotid arteries, it is necessary to press rather from the sides, and not from the front. A loop with a classic sliding knot is more suitable for a complete smooth hanging. Because when completely hung, the pressure is enormous, and at that pressure it doesn't matter where the greatest pressure is. With partial, greater pressure must be exerted from both sides. With a single fulcrum, this is not possible. At one fulcrum, I only have an exploding head and a cough. But if I just wrap the rope around my neck and pull the rope with my hands to the sides, then I begin to lose consciousness. Thus, it may be more correct to tie the rope to two fulcrum. As in the picture. Just a guess.
The alternative is only complete suspension. With all the pain and inconvenience.
The alternative is only complete suspension. With all the pain and inconvenience.
Hi guys, just checking in before I end my life via some of the suggested methods. Hopefully the use of a hoodie with the hood up to protect the neck should help me with the pain from the pressure of the slipknot. If I dont post an update within a couple of days assume it has worked for me, hopefully this might help out some people if it works. Noone wants to go out in pain afterall. I have a thin rope so even with the hood up it should still cut into the carotid artery.
Just to add I'm tieing the rope to a door and throwing it over the other side then closing the door. Then I'm gonna face 45 degrees to the left as to put pressure on the right carotid artery which directly supplies blood to the brain then just sit down hanging in the air. Wish me luck
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LastRide
Specialist
- Jan 23, 2020
- 369
Yep, has happened to me before...I used a leather belt which was quite thick and stiff, and the doorknob I attached it to was very short and slippery...so when I lost consciousness my body must have fallen more to the side (I was kneeling in a forward direction) and the bloody belt came off the doorknob ! So for the next three weeks I had to come up with a very good excuse for both the huge swelling on my forehead as well as why I was running around with a scarf in the middle of summer. Just for info I would have never believed it but if you fail with this method the bruise around your neck is enormous and really colourful, and it cannot be explained for by something else really than just having tried to hang yourself.....
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Can u not just target one side then? U need to close both sides?
Majin K.
too weak for this world
- Jan 9, 2020
- 232
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned here before, but what do you guys think of using a ratchet strap for this method?
LastRide
Specialist
- Jan 23, 2020
- 369
With a ratchet you don't need to even partially suspend yourself, you can just sit or stand or whatever.....makes it a lot easier actually, I wish I had thought of that at the time !
Majin K.
too weak for this world
- Jan 9, 2020
- 232
I attempted the night night method just yesterday and failed. The pressure was getting unbearable after over a minute. So I was hoping to have more success with this method. This video is also from that thread. Carla from the video only needed like 20 seconds to pass out.
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They supply a fraction of blood, and it is not at all necessary to block vertebral arteries to die.
I'm looking to CTB and I saw this comment in the thread:
"I'd say use a slipknot with the scarf. Does your car have an "oh shit" bar? I'm not sure if it'll be strong enough so of course test first but I'd say tie it there and start on the seat, then drop down to the floor."
I want to try to use the handle in the car but I'm not sure how to set this up. I've tried to research this method but I can't find anything on it so I was wondering if anyone could provide a picture/setup instruction on how to do this?
"I'd say use a slipknot with the scarf. Does your car have an "oh shit" bar? I'm not sure if it'll be strong enough so of course test first but I'd say tie it there and start on the seat, then drop down to the floor."
I want to try to use the handle in the car but I'm not sure how to set this up. I've tried to research this method but I can't find anything on it so I was wondering if anyone could provide a picture/setup instruction on how to do this?
Majin K.
too weak for this world
- Jan 9, 2020
- 232
I think it's psychologically easier to just lean down and by standing up you can just release the pressure. Whereas if you tighten the ratchet strap by cranking it, it can take quite a bit of force to release the pressure around your neck.
I ended up cutting one of my ratchet straps after not passing out after over a minute with the night night method after the pressure was getting unbearable. However after watching the video linked above I'm going to replicate it soon. Perhaps I can't pass out as easily as others or didn't position the bottle caps right for night night.
LastRide
Specialist
- Jan 23, 2020
- 369
Mmh...strange that after a minute with the ratchet you still did not pass out....maybe it was not positioned correctly? Or else try to put something vaguely egg-shaped and not too soft just right on the spots where you can feel your carotid pulse, then use the ratchet to have them dig deeper into your neck, thereby occluding the arteries. You can then leave the ratchet pulled tight and should pass out within maybe let's say two minutes....I find that generally people seem to pass out a lot more quickly than it really takes...or maybe we just take longer than everyone else? Last time (partial hanging with belt tied in slipknot) I found it took f.....ages !
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