HopefulButPrepared

HopefulButPrepared

Experienced
Jun 22, 2022
247
Fuck sober - that would be torture. I'm starting to feel the same way - I wish I hadn't bothered with the last 20 years - all for what? I wish I'd have got cancer when I was 22 and died, and not had to bother with all this shit, working, and saving for a dream, ambitions and goals that were never going to happen.

Alcohol also makes sedatives work more effectively, like phenobarbital, Xanax and Oxy, all of which I am lucky enough to have. I was saving for a house. Now I'm just using some of the money to buy sedatives and pain killers, and the rest I'll leave to my younger brother.
 
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Mr. Incapable

Mr. Incapable

Also inadequate, incompetent, weak & powerless
Jun 21, 2022
175
Fuck sober - that would be torture. I'm starting to feel the same way - I wish I hadn't bothered with the last 20 years - all for what? I wish I'd have got cancer when I was 22 and died, and not had to bother with all this shit, working, and saving for a dream, ambitions and goals that were never going to happen.

Alcohol also makes sedatives work more effectively, like phenobarbital, Xanax and Oxy, all of which I am lucky enough to have. I was saving for a house. Now I'm just using some of the money to buy sedatives and pain killers, and the rest I'll leave to my younger brother.
Sober wasn't too bad with my previous partial - I definitely reached a point of becoming dizzy and feeling limp but I can't say I was in pain or physically struggling in any way, just a little discomfort from my ligature pinching my skin and a huge amount of SI. It's the SI that I need to get passed or fight through and then I think I'll be able to do it. In all my previous attempts my SI thoughts were just racing and whirling the whole time until the point I started to freak out. I'm currently house sitting until Tuesday and then either on Wednesday or a day or two after I'm going to drink the bottle of red I've got and really give it a proper (and hopefully final/fatal) attempt.

Also sorry to hear how much and how long you've been struggling. Life really feels like a waste of time doesn't it? It's been 12 years since a suicide attempt I had in 2010 which led me to a psych ward stay. I promised myself to try to live before I CTB but I really regret it now. I should've just saved so much time, energy and emotion and ended things back then. Nothing changed and I felt the same way the entire time while still brain washing myself to keep trying. Nah.. I can't do it anymore
 
HopefulButPrepared

HopefulButPrepared

Experienced
Jun 22, 2022
247
Sober wasn't too bad with my previous partial - I definitely reached a point of becoming dizzy and feeling limp but I can't say I was in pain or physically struggling in any way, just a little discomfort from my ligature pinching my skin and a huge amount of SI. It's the SI that I need to get passed or fight through and then I think I'll be able to do it. In all my previous attempts my SI thoughts were just racing and whirling the whole time until the point I started to freak out. I'm currently house sitting until Tuesday and then either on Wednesday or a day or two after I'm going to drink the bottle of red I've got and really give it a proper (and hopefully final/fatal) attempt.

Also sorry to hear how much and how long you've been struggling. Life really feels like a waste of time doesn't it? It's been 12 years since a suicide attempt I had in 2010 which led me to a psych ward stay. I promised myself to try to live before I CTB but I really regret it now. I should've just saved so much time, energy and emotion and ended things back then. Nothing changed and I felt the same way the entire time while still brain washing myself to keep trying. Nah.. I can't do it anymore
I'm truly sorry to hear that it's come to that, for you or anyone else. It seems so bizarre that our own brains can't do what is necessary to keep us content, and alive. I regularly say to my brain, 'You're going to kill us! Don't you realise that?!', but it doesn't listen. What a fucked-up, shitty animal we have become, when our brains screw us over so badly we kill it ourselves. I thought it's main objective was to SURVIVE?!!!

I just got off the phone with the crisis team, who phoned me because of what I told my DR, about the CTB plans and ingredients I've bought. She was quite happy to end the conversation when I told her I don't want to talk to them. Box ticked - 'We rang him, he wouldn't comply, not our fault if he dies... on to the next nut-job!'

If my DR won't put me on the stronger, fast release Oxy tomorrow, I will just buy 5K's worth online - about a years worth - then plan to die when it's nearly all gone.
 
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Getmeouttaherenow

Member
Jun 11, 2022
33
Seems I can only hit the spot while standing fully and leaning like 60°. Will this work or will my SI kick in?
 
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MusicToLogIn

Student
Sep 20, 2021
182
Hello everyone. I have some question for hanging with a short drop.
I'm planning on hanging in the forest from a beam of a BBQ hut. I don't know what object I can stand on that I can jump off of so there is a short drop (maybe a chair or a ladder?).
But the problem is when I'm using a chair or a ladder is that when it falls over its still high enough so I will put my feet on it and screw up my attempt. Another outcome is that the chair/ladder won't fall over so I put my feet back on it and screw up the attempt. So what are your item suggestions which I can stand on and which I can bring into the forest with me. Thanks.
 
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ojinzo

Specialist
Feb 21, 2022
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I just thought this information is better off here now, because the original source has been taken down.
If this violates any rules or if the author doesn't want this information to be reproduced on other sites, the admins or mods are free to delete my thread. I hope you don't mind, this is very useful, and it's not my intention to steal Loe's content.
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Guide to partially suspended hanging:

Warning: Don't try this method unless you're totally sure that:
a) you want to kill yourself
b) that you won't be found for at least 30 minutes after you attempt.

This method is very lethal and quick (quick from your perspective
anyway, as you black out within seconds), but if you're found in time
and 'saved' you can end up with serious brain damage and/or be left a
vegetable.

Why partial suspension?
Because full suspension seems to me to be unnecessary and creates
difficulties. First of all you need to find a place which would hold
your entire weight, which isn't easy, and also you need a stronger
ligature, which isn't always easy to find either. There's nothing
wrong with full suspension, but it may not be a viable method for
everyone, especially if you're looking to use everyday materials from
around the home.

By partial suspension I mean that you hang yourself around the neck
(specifically the carotid artery), and push downwards while kneeling.
This should create enough downward pressure on the ligature to tighten
it and close the carotid artery and stop the blood flow to your brain.
All you need is 3 kilograms of pressure to do this, which isn't much
at all.

Also, with full suspension your entire body weight is pressurizing
your neck, and this would probably be more than enough to not only cut
off the blood supply to your brain, but break your neck as well. I'm
not too sure if that's a good or a bad thing. I do know though, that
statistically people who've attempted via hanging have more often been
found kneeling and partially suspended than being fully suspended.

Where is the carotid artery?
Before you start you have to know this. If you place your hand around
the middle of your neck, around your Adam's apple, with one thumb on
one side and all fingers on the other, you should feel a strong pulse
and heartbeat. If you close your hand now fairly firmly, you'll
probably make yourself pass out. It might be a good idea to try this
to make sure you've got the right spot.

What type of ligature?
You need a ligature that's strong, but not too elastic. It doesn't
have to be very long, 1 meter or more would be plenty. I'd advise
against nylon rope, string, fishing wire, etc.
Neckties on the other hand, are perfect Smile .

It may also be a good idea to lubricate the ligature with soap. This
would help the noose tighten even quicker, especially if you're using
a rough ligature such as a rope. Lubricating it in this way will
increase the friction once you push your head down and tighten the
noose, and could make it a little more effective and faster.

What type of knot?
A slipknot. It's one of the most basic knots around, and you make it
with one end of your ligature. The other end should go around your
hanging place.

Many people have the misguided idea that a hangman's knot should be
used, but they're wrong. A hangman's knot is for a completely
different purpose, and won't work for this method.

Where should I hang?
You should hang from a support which will hold part of your weight.

You should test this by tying the loose end of your ligature around
the support several times, sticking your hand (NOT your head) in the
noose and pushing down with it. If the noose holds, you're fine. If
not, then you'll have to find another spot.

A great and easy place to hang is from the thick horizontal metal bar
which you find in wardrobes in most homes.

When should I do it?
When no one else will be in the same area, for at least 30 minutes.
You lose consciousness within seconds but your body doesn't completely
die for around 15-20 minutes. The extra 10-15 minutes is for
preparation time and just in case.

How?

When you're completely ready, kneel down, stick your head in the
noose, position it around the carotid artery and push downwards with
your head.

Good luck...
I really appreciate this. I tried it and it works but the rope broke which is why I'm still here to write this. It terrified me when I woke up and I tried seeking other methods but I've learned there are many scams out here and I need to overcome my fear of pain of I really want to achieve deliverance.
 
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Hangman

Member
Nov 4, 2021
60
I've been warming up to both partial and full hanging for long time now, maybe more full. Before I found this site and materials I was pretty set on laying on train tracks. Now I know more and realize hanging is not primarily about suffocation, but blocking blood flow to the brain. I've been practising with rope and hands many times. Even with hands and rope I can apply enough pressure. Having whole body weight of pressure to the neck should do the job, fast. I guess then the rope doesn't need to be so exactly placed which seems usual with partial. I now also realize you can't really practise this method because first time is likely going to succeed and it happens really fast. With partial there is the chance you reactively stand up straight with your last strength and blood flow comes back. With full if you have some sort of platform next to you, you just might be able to survive if stepped on, but likely not, it requires precise movements that don't come instinctively.
 
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BasqueClown

BasqueClown

Zirkua ata heriotza
Jun 9, 2022
121
.With full if you have some sort of platform next to you, you just might be able to survive if stepped on, but likely not, it requires precise movements that don't come instinctively.
I decided full also for this. I'm sure that I want to die.
But by hanging I'm planning to do in a forest, because A) I don't want to traumatize the landlady or a hotel staff and B) if it's sufficient remotely I want to be rotten enough to be hard to identify
Yes that part sounds weird or gore but I don't care
 
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ewigeruhe

ewigeruhe

Student
Jun 26, 2022
112
why is anyone going with partial, when a sedated full would definitely kill you with only half the consciousness? I don't understand this obsession with getting partial right, when you could get into a position for a full, then drink or take something extremely sedating, and then fall, and you're done
For me the reason is, that i don't have a place high enough in my apartment at least i think that, to go full but i stil have to test if the door in my bathroom would be ok.
I would rather not do it outside due to the risk of discovery.
 
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betternever2havbeen

Paragon
Jun 19, 2022
925
why is anyone going with partial, when a sedated full would definitely kill you with only half the consciousness? I don't understand this obsession with getting partial right, when you could get into a position for a full, then drink or take something extremely sedating, and then fall, and you're done
I'm worried full would be more painful and take longer to pass out. I guess I would test out partial first to find the spot which gets the carotids and that dizzy feeling rather than head exploding feeling. Then maybe go for full when I know the right spot to have the rope. I also don't have anywhere inside I can think to use as an anchor point-other than the banister of the stairs which I don't wanna use. So I'll have to go outside.

There is SO much conflicting info it's hard to know what to believe as it ranges from "painless" to "agony" and you never know if the latter is telling the truth or not (on other sites I mean, not on here).
I really need to know if there is any chance to survive a full suspension hanging other than if someone finds you? Like I don't understand why it's so hard to be alone for an hour at least so you don't get found? Why don't people do it at 3a.m or when everyone has gone out and you've made sure they ain't coming back for a while? Every story I read about people ending up as vegetables gives me major anxiety. I can't imagine and don't want to imagine what it's like to be them. As long as you're not found for an hour at least you should be good right?
 
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BasqueClown

BasqueClown

Zirkua ata heriotza
Jun 9, 2022
121
As long as you're not found for an hour at least you should be good right?
I read in Geo Stone book that hanging needs at least 20 minutes alone to die.
Regarding "pain" and "agony" I think the misconception about hanging is because of linking to capital punishment of criminals. Perhaps that struggle with the rope is only a body struggle but in our brains already blacked out...
I don't fear the pain. I know it's a cliche of dying by suicide for artists or LGBT people (I'm lesbian (, but whatever, soon or later I'll take my own life
 
anerirkateti

anerirkateti

smells bad
Jun 21, 2022
22
I am reading through this megathread and I keep seeing the words "slipknot" and "noose" being used, but they are different knots. I'm wondering which one I should use since the original post mentions using a slipknot and not a hangman's noose, but many users in this thread claim to have used a simple noose for the reason that it tightens under load.
 
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Gustav Hartmann

Wizard
Aug 28, 2021
674
I'm worried full would be more painful and take longer to pass out. I guess I would test out partial first to find the spot which gets the carotids and that dizzy feeling rather than head exploding feeling. Then maybe go for full when I know the right spot to have the rope. I also don't have anywhere inside I can think to use as an anchor point-other than the banister of the stairs which I don't wanna use. So I'll have to go outside.

There is SO much conflicting info it's hard to know what to believe as it ranges from "painless" to "agony" and you never know if the latter is telling the truth or not (on other sites I mean, not on here).
I really need to know if there is any chance to survive a full suspension hanging other than if someone finds you? Like I don't understand why it's so hard to be alone for an hour at least so you don't get found? Why don't people do it at 3a.m or when everyone has gone out and you've made sure they ain't coming back for a while? Every story I read about people ending up as vegetables gives me major anxiety. I can't imagine and don't want to imagine what it's like to be them. As long as you're not found for an hour at least you should be good right?

In some cases people are found because they don´t want to die but to be found, its a suicidal gesture. In other cases hanging fails, because people act in the heat of the moment, without thinking and sufficient planning.
 
HopefulButPrepared

HopefulButPrepared

Experienced
Jun 22, 2022
247
For me the reason is, that i don't have a place high enough in my apartment at least i think that, to go full but i stil have to test if the door in my bathroom would be ok.
I would rather not do it outside due to the risk of discovery.
I understand. I have an outside place where I know I wouldn't be discovered for a few hours, at least until early morning dog-walkers might walk through, but it's still unlikely, because it's so remote and leads to a muddy farmer's field, and in the dark, cold of winter, no one's gonna be hanging around there at 2 am.
 
Mr. Incapable

Mr. Incapable

Also inadequate, incompetent, weak & powerless
Jun 21, 2022
175
What kind of ligature do you guys have planned / are considering? Originally I was going to use bedsheets that I had torn and fashioned into a rope - tested several times, very strong and sturdy. However, last week I decided to try elastic exercise resistance bands having seen other successful cases with it - seemly strong and felt comfortable but I attempted last night and it BROKE. The band snapped in the middle, one of the metal clasp hooks hit me in the back from the tension and the other hit my thumb. I couldn't believe it. So be cautious if you plan on using / trying those! For me, I'm going back to the bedsheets for now
 
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anerirkateti

smells bad
Jun 21, 2022
22
What kind of ligature do you guys have planned / are considering? Originally I was going to use bedsheets that I had torn and fashioned into a rope - tested several times, very strong and sturdy. However, last week I decided to try elastic exercise resistance bands having seen other successful cases with it - seemly strong and felt comfortable but I attempted last night and it BROKE. The band snapped in the middle, one of the metal clasp hooks hit me in the back from the tension and the other hit my thumb. I couldn't believe it. So be cautious if you plan on using / trying those! For me, I'm going back to the bedsheets for now
I plan on using these straps that are used to tie down stuff. They are pretty old but hold my weight with absolutely no problem, still plan on using two of them stacked just for peace of mind. Anything that degrades like rubber is kind of risky to me honestly.
 
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jcksonb22

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Jul 18, 2021
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bro2089

Member
Oct 12, 2020
42
Hi,
I want to know how to use partial (or / and also other methods) from a door knob or a steel hook that I use to hang my robe.

Thanks.
 
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betternever2havbeen

Paragon
Jun 19, 2022
925
So am I understanding right that full tends to be more painful because the rope moves under your jaw instead of on the carotids? Is there not a way to prevent the rope moving like tie a jumper above the rope or something. Surely there must be a painless way to do full?
 
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So am I understanding right that full tends to be more painful because the rope moves under your jaw instead of on the carotids? Is there not a way to prevent the rope moving like tie a jumper above the rope or something. Surely there must be a painless way to do full?
There is,
you kneel on the chair instead of kicking it
 
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betternever2havbeen

Paragon
Jun 19, 2022
925
@NoLifeNoPain isn't that just partial then though?
 
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@NoLifeNoPain isn't that just partial then though?
No because your unconscious body will move out of the chair. One of yur legs should kneel in the air, that's the pass out leg (the death sentence leg)
I mean when i woke up I wasn't on that chair anymore.
 
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betternever2havbeen

Paragon
Jun 19, 2022
925
@NoLifeNoPain oh yeh I get it now. Didn't you say you wouldn't try that method again though or am I misremebering?
 
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@NoLifeNoPain oh yeh I get it now. Didn't you say you wouldn't try that method again though or am I misremebering?
When did I ever say that?
If I was suicidal I would literally just re-do what I did
there's no point in changing something that already works
 
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betternever2havbeen

Paragon
Jun 19, 2022
925
@NoLifeNoPain sorry it was partial you said you wouldn't try again wasn't it. I've read a lot of your posts I got confused lol. Ok so you have a pretty good idea that way works then good I'll keep that in mind.
 
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@NoLifeNoPain sorry it was partial you said you wouldn't try again wasn't it. I've read a lot of your posts I got confused lol. Ok so you have a pretty good idea that way works then good I'll keep that in mind.
I guess the whole point of my technique is to pass out before actually hanging,
it doesn't matter how you do it
kneeling on the chair is one way to pass out
 
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betternever2havbeen

Paragon
Jun 19, 2022
925
Ya but then how come no one else does it like that? Did you just come up with it yourself? Was this the time the anchor broke so you know 100% it would've worked had that not happened? Sorry for all the questions but you're like one of the gurus here haha. I feel like your experiences are invaluable thanks for replying.
 
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Ya but then how come no one else does it like that? Did you just come up with it yourself? Was this the time the anchor broke so you know 100% it would've worked had that not happened? Sorry for all the questions but you're like one of the gurus here haha. I feel like your experiences are invaluable thanks for replying.
1. I have no idea
2. Probably? Honestly it's so intuitive I can't really figure out why no one has ever tried it or talked about it.
I mean when you're on the chair why would you think about kicking it right away? Wouldn't you want to test your set up first,
and how would you test if not by kneeling on the chair?
3. Yes.
 
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betternever2havbeen

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925
@NoLifeNoPain I'd be willing to experiment with it before I do it for real. I guess I have to think of a material or anchor that will break once I've passed out which isn't exactly easy! Thanks again for answers.
 

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