Do we have much of an idea of how sn feels once taken?

[littlelady774]

I HATE reading this.. but thank you. God damn it I thought this was legit.........

I think I still might give it a go.. maybe I'm just stupid and desperate.. idk.
True- We don't know a lot about this method... but it can't be THAT bad. I mean, I've read stories here of people who have ctb'd with it- giving updates on how they felt.
@LostGirl posted her experience- didn't seem too bad

 

[creationisdeath]

I think I still might give it a go.. maybe I'm just stupid and desperate.. idk.
True- We don't know a lot about this method... but it can't be THAT bad. I mean, I've read stories here of people who have ctb'd with it- giving updates on how they felt.
@LostGirl posted her experience- didn't seem too bad

I hope it works well for you and you can peacefully transition!
I'm scared what happened after they stopped posting. Can't type much when you're lying on the ground convulsing..

Desperation leads me to partial/hanging all the time. Not nice at all but at least proven for thousands of years.

 

[littlelady774]

I hope it works well for you and you can peacefully transition!
I'm scared what happened after they stopped posting. Can't type much when you're lying on the ground convulsing..

Desperation leads me to partial/hanging all the time. Not nice at all but at least proven for thousands of years.

Very true. + thanks!
I hope the people that tried it went out peacefully... if not, Nitschke's got a lot of blood on his hands...
At least your method has been around since the dawn of time- definitely works well!

 

[creationisdeath]

Very true. + thanks!
I hope the people that tried it went out peacefully... if not, Nitschke's got a lot of blood on his hands...
At least your method has been around since the dawn of time- definitely works well!

Still scared of messing that up as well. If there were an instant suicide button I'd punch it but the only thing close to that, a shotgun, is absolutely out of reach. Unless I find a deepweb vendor. But those seem to be all scam.

 

[SiArc]

There is plenty of research material out there for what happens (in people), medical journals, research papers, etc. (these don't tend to be free for the public, I was able to use them because of a research grant on another topic). That is why you have to do the research yourself. The information here is a good jumping off point. Don't let one person sway you one way or the other. For every method look into why it works and how it works. There is NO method that is painless. Be it psychological or physical. Don't jump on the bandwagon and go with the flow. People here are far too eager to go with something or tout against it when a person speaks loud enough or just go with word of mouth without looking things up themselves. Look at the number of the exact same threads that exist when a little search in the search bar could answer their question.

It looks like people have been using SN/SA method prior to the PPH, hell SA/SN are off shoots of sodium cyanide which was used for mass killings (bloody f'ers who forced that on people) and on themselves so they wouldn't get captured. You can use the research on similar compounds as well to see what will happen with others. It won't be exactly the same but it can give you an idea. Yes you will be discolored but there is no body that will not be discolored once you die (blood settling, time spent alone, temp where you are, pets or vermin in area, etc). By the way the blood turns brown, your body turns a light bluish grey.

Yes we don't know what happened once they stopped talking in chat, that is why the research is so important. Once you go unconscious what does it matter? Prep, plan, take precautions. Do what you can.

Your exit is up to you. It is your choice and responsibility. Don't let someone else change it for you. If you fail to prep responsibly from your own research (not just asking people questions because you are too lazy to go look it up yourself) to execution of method then that is on you.

edit:probably won't respond to many if any response to my post. I have 6 days left. Don't need to spend it debating.

 

[Shewaitsforme]

There is plenty of research material out there for what happens (in people), medical journals, research papers, etc. (these don't tend to be free for the public, I was able to use them because of a research grant on another topic). That is why you have to do the research yourself. The information here is a good jumping off point. Don't let one person sway you one way or the other. For every method look into why it works and how it works. There is NO method that is painless. Be it psychological or physical. Don't jump on the bandwagon and go with the flow. People here are far too eager to go with something or tout against it when a person speaks loud enough or just go with word of mouth without looking things up themselves. Look at the number of the exact same threads that exist when q little search in the search bar could answer their question.

It looks like people have been using SN/SA method prior to the PPH, hell SA/SN are off shoots of sodium cyanide which was used for mass killings (bloody f'ers who forced that on people) and on themselves so they wouldn't get captured. You can use the research on similar compounds as well to see what will happen with others. It won't be exactly the same but it can give you an idea. Yes you will be discolored but there is no body that will not be discolored once you die (blood settling, time spent alone, temp where you are, pets or vermin in area, etc). By the way the blood turns brown, your body turns a light bluish grey.

Yes we don't know what happened once they stopped talking in chat, that is why the research is so important. Once you go unconscious what does it matter? Prep, plan, take precautions. Do what you can.

Your exit is up to you. It is your choice and responsibility. Don't let someone else change it for you. If you fail to prep responsibly from your own research (not just asking people questions because you are too lazy to go look it up yourself) to execution of method then that is on you.

edit:probably won't respond to many if any response to my post. I have 6 days left. Don't need to spend it debating.

Exactly, everything youve said is correct here. Myself and @gingerplum said exectly the same. We both have a medical background and have tried to help members here as much as possible, often ignored when we have tried to explain the workings of the method on the body. Everyone seems to want this magic painfree way but no method is painfree and without its risks and failures. So often wed see posts about methods that are just so plain not going to work and just seems the person infact doesnt want to die perseay but inflict as much pain on themselves as possible but hey each to their own. Somepeople dont research at all and expect all the answers which are already on here multiple times over. Id like to think people on here are truthfull with their experiences when they have attempted but its not a 100% given.

Way i see it if you want to exit by suicide you should do the research to know what to expect, its on you. You want the ability to CHOOSE what you do with your own life then own that right.

 

[Dragon]

No.

Yes.

 

[Dragon]

Seriously? This is your evidence?


Yes, it works. Cures you like bacon in the process. However, that's not what the question is here.

There is no reliable way of using any alleged attempts through someone posting that they feel fine. They would likely become incapacitated and cognitively impaired prior to death.

Why are you so against this method for no legitimate reason?

 

[WayOut]

Why are you so against this method for no legitimate reason?

Why did you appear out of no-where, make 12 random posts, then come directly to this thread to challenge a statement I made?

I'll humor you though.

1. It is correct to say that I am against any person taking SN if they have been lead to believe it's painless and peaceful.

2. It is incorrect to say that there is no legitimate reason for my position.

I hope that helps.

 

[Broken]

No

 

[About_to_Go]

I think I still might give it a go.. maybe I'm just stupid and desperate.. idk.
True- We don't know a lot about this method... but it can't be THAT bad. I mean, I've read stories here of people who have ctb'd with it- giving updates on how they felt.
@LostGirl posted her experience- didn't seem too bad

It looks like LostGirl's experience should not be trusted, see the user discussion megathread.

 

[littlelady774]

It looks like LostGirl's experience should not be trusted, see the user discussion megathread.

Dude :( that sucks... you really don't know who you can trust on here.. I'm so glad there's mods on this forum

 

[Michael Malecha]

It causes death through severe methemoglobinemia. Basically, it inhibits cells from receiving oxygen from hemoglobin. You basically suffocate from within. Can't see that being a "peaceful" death by any means. Also, when they find you you'll be completely blue, which is kind of fucked up.

 

[Dragon]

Why did you appear out of no-where, make 12 random posts, then come directly to this thread to challenge a statement I made?

I'll humor you though.

1. It is correct to say that I am against any person taking SN if they have been lead to believe it's painless and peaceful.

2. It is incorrect to say that there is no legitimate reason for my position.

I hope that helps.

Uhm...challenge you? I'm not "challenging you." I asked you a question, as your reasoning is not making much sense to me. I've been lurking for awhile and decided on SN as my method. Therefore, I have no interest in posting in regards to other methods. And no, that does not help. As I said, you still aren't making much sense to me, as you have no evidence for your stance in SN not being a peaceful method. It seems to be nothing more than an opinion that is based on nothing. Hence, no legitimate reason. I would however appreciate if you could elaborate, which is why I "challenged you," if that's how you're choosing to interpret my question.

 

[Dragon]

It causes death through severe methemoglobinemia. Basically, it inhibits cells from receiving oxygen from hemoglobin. You basically suffocate from within. Can't see that being a "peaceful" death by any means. Also, when they find you you'll be completely blue, which is kind of fucked up.

You don't suffocate though. It causes hypoxia. There are videos online of what it would look like. You don't even realize it's happening. You're able to "breathe" normally the entire time as your oxygen levels drop, and it can even be euphoric. And then once your oxygen levels reach a certain point you simply lose consciousness. Sounds and looks pretty peaceful to me.

 

[throwaway_2620]

You don't suffocate though. It causes hypoxia. There are videos online of what it would look like. You don't even realize it's happening. You're able to "breathe" normally the entire time as your oxygen levels drop, and it can even be euphoric. And then once your oxygen levels reach a certain point you simply lose consciousness. Sounds and looks pretty peaceful to me.

Thanks for that reassuring comment, it makes me feel more comfortable and at peace in using SN to ctb (especially when mixed with benzos, thus making it even more peaceful).

 

[Dragon]

Thanks for that reassuring comment, it makes me feel more comfortable and at peace in using SN to ctb (especially when mixed with benzos, thus making it even more peaceful).

You're so lucky you've got the benzos too!! That's all I'm missing

 

[Dragon]

My biggest concern with this method is the possibility of seizures. From what I've read online, most seizures are not painful. At least, until after it's through, there can be mild to severe muscle pain, depending on the type of seizure. Benzos help to prevent seizures...so that would be ideal. Without benzos though, there's no way of knowing for sure what will happen. SN SHOULD render you unconscious before that point, but it's still scary. Scarier than anything else, in my opinion. Headache, nausea, disorientation, etc isn't really that big of a deal to me. Surely a lot better than what other methods look like...

 

[creationisdeath]

With all chemical methods I'm afraid of a situation like with US executions: being paralyzed, but conscious. (and in immeasurable pain)
Looking up medical research is a good idea if you have a medical background, but I assume most people on here wouldn't be able to judge what they read. It always comes down to "x said this". Not like anybody was testing killing methods. At least not publicly..

 

[Dragon]

With all chemical methods I'm afraid of a situation like with US executions: being paralyzed, but conscious. (and in immeasurable pain)
Looking up medical research is a good idea if you have a medical background, but I assume most people on here wouldn't be able to judge what they read. It always comes down to "x said this". Not like anybody was testing killing methods. At least not publicly..

What do you mean though? Basic medical knowledge can be explained and understood in layman's terms. Unless the topic is something that's really "out there," for lack of a better way to put it. In most cases it's a matter of understanding definitions.

 

[creationisdeath]

What do you mean though? Basic medical knowledge can be explained and understood in layman's terms. Unless the topic is something that's really "out there," for lack of a better way to put it. In most cases it's a matter of understanding definitions.

Definitions don't help in judging whether or not the argument is good. It's rare to see studies agree on anything. They could say almost anything and I'd have to believe it lacking a methodology of my own.

 

[Arak]

It causes death through severe methemoglobinemia. Basically, it inhibits cells from receiving oxygen from hemoglobin. You basically suffocate from within. Can't see that being a "peaceful" death by any means. Also, when they find you you'll be completely blue, which is kind of fucked up.

I think the key is 'how does it feel ?' And 'what are the probable outcomes ?'

 

[Arak]

It looks like LostGirl's experience should not be trusted, see the user discussion megathread.

Thanks for that.

She seemed to be genuine at the time. Possibly, checking in at a hotal at 9 AM might have been a givewaway ... that, and the 'just pain, bearable'.
But we don't know. In some ways, this forum can be dangerous. I was not even aware of the users' megathread.

 

[WayOut]

With all chemical methods I'm afraid of a situation like with US executions: being paralyzed, but conscious. (and in immeasurable pain)
Looking up medical research is a good idea if you have a medical background, but I assume most people on here wouldn't be able to judge what they read. It always comes down to "x said this". Not like anybody was testing killing methods. At least not publicly..

Exactly. Classic PN observation, on which he has based his entire claim that SN is peaceful: "The pig died quietly." Considering that he did have a medical degree, these "proofs" of peacefulness are simply astonishing and unconscionable, given that he's trying to sell his new "peaceful deaths" to people, via the PPeH.

You don't suffocate though. It causes hypoxia. There are videos online of what it would look like. You don't even realize it's happening. You're able to "breathe" normally the entire time as your oxygen levels drop, and it can even be euphoric. And then once your oxygen levels reach a certain point you simply lose consciousness. Sounds and looks pretty peaceful to me.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Who are you trying to convince? Yourself? Or others on this forum? And your PhD degree in biochemistry and/or medicine is from which university?

Hypoxia caused by lack of oxygen in the air is not the same as hypoxic death caused by ingestion of a substance that hijacks the red blood cell's ability to transport oxygen. Why the fuck are you trying to tell vulnerable people on this forum that it is?

What do you mean though? Basic medical knowledge can be explained and understood in layman's terms. Unless the topic is something that's really "out there," for lack of a better way to put it. In most cases it's a matter of understanding definitions.

You do not understand the different bio-mechanisms of hypoxia. You have no idea, not even a reasonable layman's understanding of the chemistry and biology.

Why have you appeared out of no-where, and come straight here to defend PN and his SN death for sale? You don't need to convince yourself. You're a gullible PN true believer and cult worshiper. Good for you. But you're here, on some sort of mission to convince other people. Not good. Not good at all.

Fuck off. Seriously. Fuck off. I happen to like many of the people here, and I'm getting annoyed PN has started to send his usual flag bearers to defend the indefensible. PN himself is perfectly free to register for this forum and speak for himself. I look forward to hearing from him.

 

[Sanguinius]

@Geesuicide said she just felt a little dizzy in her last message...

 

[WayOut]

@Geesuicide said she just felt a little dizzy in her last message...

With all chemical methods I'm afraid of a situation like with US executions: being paralyzed, but conscious. (and in immeasurable pain)
Looking up medical research is a good idea if you have a medical background, but I assume most people on here wouldn't be able to judge what they read. It always comes down to "x said this". Not like anybody was testing killing methods. At least not publicly..

 

[Chinaski]

@Geesuicide said she just felt a little dizzy in her last message...

Who knows what happened after that message?

Perhaps Professor Suicide, with his doctorate in Suicide Methods from the University of Suicide will log on soon and contribute.

 

[Sanguinius]

Who knows what happened after that message?

I think her death is confirmed...
But yes, you're right... we will never know...

 

[About_to_Go]

I think her death is confirmed...
But yes, you're right... we will never know...

Her death was confirmed, but what they're saying is that we don't know what happened between her last message and her passing. It could've been painless but it also could've been very painful. No way to know, unfortunately.

 

[Sanguinius]

Her death was confirmed, but what they're saying is that we don't know what happened between her last message and her passing. It could've been painless but it also could've been very painful. No way to know, unfortunately.

Yes, I ment that... we will never know if it was painless or not..