Anybody like watching Jordan Peterson talks on YouTube?

[Final Escape]

I'd be more interested to hear what makes a "crazy woman."

Women who have trouble managing emotions and reactions to various events. Basically you can't manage your reactions to events that happen in your daily life. You are verbally and even physically abusive. Yes women can be just as violent as men. Women as a whole tend to reason more from emotions than from logic. This is why women can be more irrational. Men as a whole are more logical and less feelings based.

 

[Chinaski]

I sometimes have an idea about paying people to get sterilised to lower the population

Again, eugenics, and imo anyone who faves these arguments should be hard-banned from all political discourse.

 

[ReadyasEver]

Eugenics, at least for me, means we have run our course as a species.

 

[Othermind]

Again, eugenics, and imo anyone who faves these arguments should be hard-banned from all political discourse.

But what about muh market pace of ideas?

 

[Chinaski]

why? I didnt say it should forced, just used as an option for anyone that is interested.

Yeah, with a financial inducement which will only be accepted by those who need the money, i.e. the poor.

Do you lot even think about this shit before you type it?

 

[Pulpit2018]

Here is something thats not a buzzword for you:

The only people who think socialism is good,are people who have not lived in true socialism.
Why dont you go to Romania,Hungary,Poland,Greece ,or some latin country and ask if they want more socialism or capitalism.
Living in the most socialistic country in Europe let me tell you sth,sir:SOCIALISM SUCKS!
Why do you think most people want to move out of these countries?
Why do people flee Venezuela like rats?(i know....its not TRUE socialism)
Is it because they read "reactionary sewer propaganda"?
No.
Its because they have seen what socialism means.
A bunch of good for nothings bureaucrats,and politicians that FAILED in having careers in free market,go into politics so they gain money and power.
A bunch of corrupt a-holes who think they know better than the market,corrupt everything,steal public money,indebt the future generations for ever,place all their money to foreign banks and push that country to default,so they can buy everything for cheap.They push away competition,they push away investors,they demand license for EVERYTHING,they put all of their relatives to public positions.They nationalise whole industries and let them on their own to be corrupted and uncompetitive.They are against meritocracy and progress.They are against science,innovation,competition because it threatens them.They hate people standing on their own.They tax to the death,giving you a small penance that you should consider charity.They want everyone on the public dole.
They make the country so bad,it resembles a soviet republic.
Thats socialism.Everytime.Everytime it ends with the country poorer overall,and more misery.Always.
But somehow its gonna be different this time!

And you wonder,why we dont play along with this silliness.
Sitting in the first world,having all the advantages that free markets gave you,you have the audacity to claim socialism is superior.
Come on.
I will never say that capitalism is faultless.But that the fact that the people of the world are moving TO the West,makes all my argument.

 

[Othermind]

why? I didnt say it should forced, just used as an option for anyone that is interested.

You can already do it, it's called a vasectomy and the financial reward you get is not getting kids you cannot financially support.
Also there's nothing your proposition accomplishes that hasn't been demonstrably achieved by better sex ed, making contraception more available and giving women their bodily autonomy.

 

[Chinaski]

Here is something thats not a buzzword for you:

The only people who think socialism is good,are people who have not lived in true socialism.
Why dont you go to Romania,Hungary,Poland,Greece ,or some latin country and ask if they want more socialism or capitalism.
Living in the most socialistic country in Europe let me tell you sth,sir:SOCIALISM SUCKS!
Why do you think most people want to move out of these countries?
Why do people flee Venezuela like rats?(i know....its not TRUE socialism)
Is it because they read "reactionary sewer propaganda"?
No.
Its because they have seen what socialism means.
A bunch of good for nothings bureaucrats,and politicians that FAILED in having careers in free market,go into politics so they gain money and power.
A bunch of corrupt a-holes who think they know better than the market,corrupt everything,steal public money,indebt the future generations for ever,place all their money to foreign banks and push that country to default,so they can buy everything for cheap.They push away competition,they push away investors,they demand license for EVERYTHING,they put all of their relatives to public positions.They nationalise whole industries and let them on their own to be corrupted and uncompetitive.They are against meritocracy and progress.They are against science,innovation,competition because it threatens them.They hate people standing on their own.They tax to the death,giving you a small penance that you should consider charity.They want everyone on the public dole.
They make the country so bad,it resembles a soviet republic.
Thats socialism.Everytime.Everytime it ends with the country poorer overall,and more misery.Always.
But somehow its gonna be different this time!

And you wonder,why we dont play along with this silliness.
Sitting in the first world,having all the advantages that free markets gave you,you have the audacity to claim socialism is superior.
Come on.
I will never say that capitalism is faultless.But that the fact that the people of the world are moving TO the West,makes all my argument.

Well, we've had "u h8 capitalism so much but capitalism made ur iphone", now we're getting "y dont u move to venezwailer if u like socialism so much".

As soon as "if socialism is so gud y did stalin not get 2 moon 1st" appears I'm calling bingo.

 

[Othermind]

Here is something thats not a buzzword for you:

The only people who think socialism is good,are people who have not lived in true socialism.
Why dont you go to Romania,Hungary,Poland,Greece ,or some latin country and ask if they want more socialism or capitalism.
Living in the most socialistic country in Europe let me tell you sth,sir:SOCIALISM SUCKS!
Why do you think most people want to move out of these countries?
Why do people flee Venezuela like rats?(i know....its not TRUE socialism)
Is it because they read "reactionary sewer propaganda"?
No.
Its because they have seen what socialism means.
A bunch of good for nothings bureaucrats,and politicians that FAILED in having careers in free market,go into politics so they gain money and power.
A bunch of corrupt a-holes who think they know better than the market,corrupt everything,steal public money,indebt the future generations for ever,place all their money to foreign banks and push that country to default,so they can buy everything for cheap.They push away competition,they push away investors,they demand license for EVERYTHING,they put all of their relatives to public positions.They nationalise whole industries and let them on their own to be corrupted and uncompetitive.They are against meritocracy and progress.They are against science,innovation,competition because it threatens them.They hate people standing on their own.They tax to the death,giving you a small penance that you should consider charity.They want everyone on the public dole.
They make the country so bad,it resembles a soviet republic.
Thats socialism.Everytime.Everytime it ends with the country poorer overall,and more misery.Always.
But somehow its gonna be different this time!

And you wonder,why we dont play along with this silliness.
Sitting in the first world,having all the advantages that free markets gave you,you have the audacity to claim socialism is superior.
Come on.
I will never say that capitalism is faultless.But that the fact that the people of the world are moving TO the West,makes all my argument.

Here is something that isn't a buzzword for you: A WHOLE FUCKING WALL OF TEXT OF BUZZWORDS.
Keep 'em coming, it's a shame court jesters went out of fashion, you would make a killing.

 

[Pulpit2018]

No arguments made,just that for some unknown reason nobody understands, socialism is the bomb man!
Ok.

 

[Johnnythefox]

Here is something that isn't a buzzword for you: A WHOLE FUCKING WALL OF TEXT OF BUZZWORDS.
Keep 'em coming, it's a shame court jesters went out of fashion, you would make a killing.

 

[Chinaski]

No arguments made,just that for some unknown reason nobody understands, socialism is the bomb man!
Ok.

l SEE YOU HAVEN'T REPLIED TO MY INCOHERENT WALL OF RANDOM WORDS haha another victory 4 capitalism, everyone watch while l ANNYALATE the snowflakes!

 

[Othermind]

No arguments made,just that for some unknown reason nobody understands, socialism is the bomb man!
Ok.

Just tell me you're not for real.
You can't be this much of living meme, comeon. I've seen Youtube comment goblins that were less of a stereotype than you are for Christ's sake.

 

[Pulpit2018]

"I cannot point to a time in history where socialism worked,but somehow thats irrelevant as long as i say that you are buzzwording and a meme"

DAE love socialism?

 

[ReadyasEver]

Well, we've had "u h8 capitalism so much but capitalism made ur iphone", now we're getting "y dont u move to venezwailer if u like socialism so much".

As soon as "if socialism is so gud y did stalin not get 2 moon 1st" appears I'm calling bingo.

I was waiting for someone to call out Uncle Joe. A good gulag network helps brighten the spirits of everyone. LOL

 

[Pulpit2018]

I guess i need to "work harder to understand the glory of socialism"
I am clearly not enlightened enough.

 

[Chinaski]

Yes, that picture there, that is literally what socialism is.

 

[Pulpit2018]

Its kinda funny.
People say "capitalism sucks man" and nobody loses his shit.
I mean everyone knows it has faults, sure.

But as soon as someone makes a criticism to socialism:
"OMG NOOOOOOO"

 

[Othermind]

Its kinda funny.
People say "capitalism sucks man" and nobody loses his shit.
I mean everyone knows it has faults, sure.

But as soon as someone makes a criticism to socialism:
"OMG NOOOOOOO"

Has the thought that maybe you're making shit arguments ever crossed your mind during this exchange or where you too busy regurgitating trite talking points and straight up propaganda to have even the slightest bit of self-awareness?

 

[sif]

Put a sock in it pal, yer like a broken record..

Noooooooooo you're not powerful enough to go up against these big fish!

 

[ReadyasEver]

Waiting for the lock symbol to show up, I'm booking side bets on the exact time.

 

[Pulpit2018]

No arguments,no arguments.I just love it.
Just remember,i am a meme,that wants to hurt the idea of socialism.
I work for a big (private!)corporation,and want to put all poor people in prison.I am a filthy capitalist.
Only rich people should exist,until only one man is left on the planet.


If this thread did not convince you that we need free speech,we are dead!
I have been a bad boy,spewing "reactionary sewer stuff"
I better be prepared,for when my friends here sent me away for "reeducation".
But i love you guys,can i post my memes please?

 

[Chinaski]

If this thread did not convince you that we need free speech,we are dead!

What is the obsession the reactionary right have with the supposed erosion of free speech? Literally nobody is attempting to silence you, and nobody has outlawed your right to air your views. There is a huge difference between people not paying any attention to you because you're unable to frame an original thought and people actively denying you the right to speak. Ffs, l thought it was supposed to be the left who were snowflakes.

 

[sif]

No arguments,no arguments.I just love it.
Just remember,i am a meme,that wants to hurt the idea of socialism.
I work for a big (private!)corporation,and want to put all poor people in prison.I am a filthy capitalist.
Only rich people should exist,until only one man is left on the planet.


If this thread did not convince you that we need free speech,we are dead!
I have been a bad boy,spewing "reactionary sewer stuff"
I better be prepared,for when my friends here sent me away for "reeducation".
But i love you guys,can i post my memes please?

Hey just wondering why did you sign up here?

 

[Othermind]

No arguments,no arguments.I just love it.
Just remember,i am a meme,that wants to hurt the idea of socialism.
I work for a big (private!)corporation,and want to put all poor people in prison.I am a filthy capitalist.
Only rich people should exist,until only one man is left on the planet.


If this thread did not convince you that we need free speech,we are dead!
I have been a bad boy,spewing "reactionary sewer stuff"
I better be prepared,for when my friends here sent me away for "reeducation".
But i love you guys,can i post my memes please?

Dude, stop. I can't take the second-hand shame.

What is the obsession the reactionary right have with the supposed erosion of free speech? Literally nobody is attempting to silence you, and nobody has outlawed your right to air your views. There is a huge difference between people not paying any attention to you because you're unable to frame an original thought and people actively denying you the right to speak. Ffs, l thought it was supposed to be the left who were snowflakes.

I would totally be up for silencing him, but that's just me.
In all seriousness though, it's a tactic they picked up in the last few years. They frame every criticism of their positions as an attack on their right to speak so they don't have to respond to any counter argument AND they get to play the victim. It works frighteningly well, just take a look at what Youtube has become.

 

[Chinaski]

For a forum which places such high value on displayed empathy / sympathy / kindness, and where I've been criticised often for not exhibiting this, there sure are some fucking horrifying political views on here, seriously.

 

[Pulpit2018]

Hey just wondering why did you sign up here?

Probably same reason you did.I wanted to talk about suicide,and lots of other topics.
Because you know....In society there is not much free speech about suicide...

Dude, stop. I can't take the second-hand shame.

I would totally be up for silencing him, but that's just me.
In all seriousness though, it's a tactic they picked up in the last few years. They frame every criticism of their positions as an attack on their right to speak so they don't have to respond to any counter argument AND they get to play the victim. It works frighteningly well, just take a look at what Youtube has become.

Good to know that you would silence me.And btw,who are they?
Why do you lump me with some nefarious unnamed groups?
My point was about free speech in general.We need it in society.That should be undebated.
I am not talking about this forum,in which there is acceptable level of freedom.

For a forum which places such high value on displayed empathy / sympathy / kindness, and where I've been criticised often for not exhibiting this, there sure are some fucking horrifying political views on here, seriously.

And what horrible political view do i represent sir?That people should voice their views?That free markets work better?
What did i say that was so horrible,and incompatible with empathy/kindness?
Why dont you say freely what you believe?

What makes some people think that only themselves are kind,and people who disagree must think of themselves as sadistic?
There is the chance that people who disagree might consider themselves kind too?
Hell,i dont like pro-lifers too.But in their mind they think they are good people.I think they are misguided,and end up doing harm.But thats my opinion.
No group has an exclusive right to say "we are the kind,the rest are savages".

 

[Othermind]

For a forum which places such high value on displayed empathy / sympathy / kindness, and where I've been criticised often for not exhibiting this, there sure are some fucking horrifying political views on here, seriously.

To be fair most people seemed to disagree with his and Final Escape's political opinions.
However I don't find this strange at all.
1.Reactionaries have pretty much taken over the internet aside from a few niches.
2.They also happen to include some demographics with disproportionate amounts of suicidal people (most of the alienated young male subcultures)
If anything I'm surprised I don't see more of these people, this is the exact kind of place they usually flock to. You know, overwhelmingly negative outlooks on life, easy to get empathy/pity etc.

 

[Chinaski]

What makes you think l was talking specifically about you? We've seen pro-eugenics arguments put forward in this thread; it's absolutely fine to describe such views as horrifying in 2019 because, like, free speech.

EDIT reply was to that pulpit character.

 

[LoNatural]

For a forum which places such high value on displayed empathy / sympathy / kindness, and where I've been criticised often for not exhibiting this, there sure are some fucking horrifying political views on here, seriously.

Politics shouldn't be ruled by emotions.