100% Instant Painless Death?

[Arak]

@Idorus ,

Thanks.

These are older cases. Still, good to see this. We don't know the doses of n, do we ?

I'd like to know more about the last two groups ! ('coma')

 

[Idorus]

These are older cases. Still, good to see this. We don't know the doses of n, do we ?

We have only this to consider when it comes to grams. Plus the fact that the KNMG/KNMP guideline from 2012 states that the method of drinking a lethal dose (as opp. to euthanasia) is not preferred due to unpredictability, ie the possible absence or late occurrence of coma. Since 2012-13 they use 15 grams, before that it was 9.

I'd like to know more about the last two groups ! ('coma')

I get that!

@ From that recent article I posted above (in post 131) - ;

........We think that it is much more important for the patient at what moment he or she gets into a coma and is definitely no longer involved in life. If we take the entry of the coma as a measure, ........

might say a thing

 

[Arak]

@Idorus ,

Thank you for that. It would seem obvious that once complete permenant respiratory failure occurs, the patient will die. Thing can get tricky if breating gets very weak, or stops and starts. The same goes for the heart rate. Once the heart stops beating completely, the body will stop the process of absorption and distribution of the N. I can imagine issues in cases of 'in between' situations.

 

[bubbletea]

We have only this to consider when it comes to grams. Plus the fact that the KNMG/KNMP guideline from 2012 states that the method of drinking a lethal dose (as opp. to euthanasia) is not preferred due to unpredictability, ie the possible absence or late occurrence of coma. Since 2012-13 they use 15 grams, before that it was 9.


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I get that!

@ From that recent article I posted above (in post 131) - ;

........We think that it is much more important for the patient at what moment he or she gets into a coma and is definitely no longer involved in life. If we take the entry of the coma as a measure, ........

might say a thing

So are we supposed to take 1 bottle or 2 ?

 

[Idorus]

Better 2 reading this all but it's time for me to call N a night. It's done. I wouldn't even recommend nor give it to my family. I conclude my N phase with these last words and a line.
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Time for something better; a 100^% instant painless death!

 

[FTL.Wanderer]

Better 2 reading this all but it's time for me to call N a night. It's done. I wouldn't even recommend nor give it to my family. I conclude my N phase with these last words and a line.
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Time for something better; a 100^% instant painless death!

I feel the same way. N was among my favorites 'til this year. Now I'm back to my search.

 

[Chinaski]

I feel the same way. N was among my favorites 'til this year. Now I'm back to my search.

"Search" for what? All the alternative methods are already right under your nose, all of them carry potential drawbacks, if you're embarking on a quest for anything better than N in this regard l think you're going to struggle.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Shotgun suicide = instant death I don´t care what anyone says if you blow your head of there won´t be anything to register the pain I can even PM shotgun suicide pictures if you want to see. Seriously you brains will be blown out the second you pull the trigger i.e. nothing to register the pain just saying.

 

[GeorgeJL]

Shotgun suicide = instant death I don´t care what anyone says if you blow your head of there won´t be anything to register the pain I can even PM shotgun suicide pictures if you want to see. Seriously you brains will be blown out the second you pull the trigger i.e. nothing to register the pain just saying.

Each cell shredded by the gun blast is still going to be alive until it runs out of oxygen. Trust me gun shot isn't as peaceful as it seems.

 

[Idorus]

Shotgun suicide = instant death I don´t care what anyone says if you blow your head of there won´t be anything to register the pain I can even PM shotgun suicide pictures if you want to see. Seriously you brains will be blown out the second you pull the trigger i.e. nothing to register the pain just saying.

Yup, my take.
I'm a bit googling around ... and I think I found a pretty "legit" and even affordable (?) hitman site: Besa mafia. Anyone heard of that? The public thinks it's a scam (Lol and I already know it isn't!) but that's only to escape the FBI etc. It sounds too good to be true; I get the impression you won't even lose your money if the job would fail as payments all go through a third trustable party. And the site owner is even a famous darknet expert. Well.. now; correct me if I'm wrong or... anyone familiar with it?

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Each cell shredded by the gun blast is still going to be alive until it runs out of oxygen. Trust me gun shot isn't as peaceful as it seems.

But you won´t be conscious to feel it. Of course your body won´t die the second you pull the trigger but your brains will be all over the place thus not being able to send signals to the rest of your body i.e. no pain.

 

[Idorus]

But you won´t be conscious to feel it. Of course your body won´t die the second you pull the trigger but your brains will be all over the place thus not being able to send signals to the rest of your body i.e. no pain.

Yes that seems very reasonable.

 

[GeorgeJL]

But you won´t be conscious to feel it. Of course your body won´t die the second you pull the trigger but your brains will be all over the place thus not being able to send signals to the rest of your body i.e. no pain.

If I cut your dick off, does your dick still feel something? Of course it does as it's still has some blood an oxygen, and you know this is true because if the doctor reattaches your dick to you then you can still feel it because it never died in the first place. Because if your dick didn't feel anything then it would truly be dead, and there would be no way of reattaching it. But we all know the story of that guy that guy his dick reattached. Same for your brain. Meaning just as you can cut your dick off and your dick will still feel some pain separate from the body so will your brains act the same way.

 

[Idorus]

Is anyone aware of a ´´black donor market´´ on the darknet? I´m considering offering my heart in exchange for a death under anaesthesia. It can´t be more peaceful and they can fully fill their pockets. I´m willing to travel to the other end of the world and I would appreciate company for the same goal. Who else?

Maybe we can set up an SS donor market on the deep web!;)

 

[OfficerK]

If I cut your dick off, does your dick still feel something? Of course it does as it's still has some blood an oxygen, and you know this is true because if the doctor reattaches your dick to you then you can still feel it because it never died in the first place. Because if your dick didn't feel anything then it would truly be dead, and there would be no way of reattaching it. But we all know the story of that guy that guy his dick reattached. Same for your brain. Meaning just as you can cut your dick off and your dick will still feel some pain separate from the body so will your brains act the same way.

No...

Your dick can't feel pain on its own. Pain is a product of the brain. Whether or not the cells are capable of creating the signal that would trigger a pain reaction in the brain is irrelevant.

Is anyone aware of a ´´black donor market´´ on the darknet? I´m considering offering my heart in exchange for a death under anaesthesia. It can´t be more peaceful and they can fully fill their pockets. I´m willing to travel to the other end of the world and I would appreciate company for the same goal. Who else?

Maybe we can set up an SS donor market on the deep web!;)

Anesthesia awareness - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Thus, the incidence is 0.2% in general surgery, about 0.4% during caesarean section, between 1 and 2% during cardiac surgery and between 10% and 40% for anesthesia of the traumatized.[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10] The majority of these do not feel pain although around one third did, in a range of experience from a sore throat due to the endotracheal tube, to traumatic pain at the incision site."

Not to mention that whoever is offering to kill you on the dark web is probably a) lying or b) indifferent to your suffering.

 

[Chinaski]

Yup, my take.
I'm a bit googling around ... and I think I found a pretty "legit" and even affordable (?) hitman site: Besa mafia. Anyone heard of that?

I've never heard of them tbh. Personally I'd opt for the more reputable Salvatore's Mafia Solutions, granted you might pay a bit more but their customer satisfaction ratings are great, and with the deluxe option they'll remove your fingers and teeth to prevent you from being identified, thus protecting your loved ones from unnecessary grief, before burying you in a shallow roadside grave in a sober, dignified ceremony.

 

[Arak]

@Idorus ,

I think that in your case a dose of 15 gr of N is a safe bet, with the proper preparation. Just don't let it expire ;)

 

[GeorgeJL]

No...

Your dick can't feel pain on its own. Pain is a product of the brain. Whether or not the cells are capable of creating the signal that would trigger a pain reaction in the brain is irrelevant.

No...
It's in both and brain the the throughout the nervous system. So pain is in both.

 

[Idorus]

I've never heard of them tbh. Personally I'd opt for the more reputable Salvatore's Mafia Solutions, granted you might pay a bit more but their customer satisfaction ratings are great, and with the deluxe option they'll remove your fingers and teeth to prevent you from being identified, thus protecting your loved ones from unnecessary grief, before burying you in a shallow roadside grave in a sober, dignified ceremony.

I'm afraid it's time to ignore our most "gentle N scammer". I guess by now it isn't a secret anymore for our most attentive audience that @Chinaski is working for our most trustable N source A and getting his bonus from every well delivered new N customer. It's a pity cause he has some good (even laughable) points now and then but this doesn't add anything of worth to our new research and I expect it to not change in the nearby future. @Salvatore is a dummy teat.

Yes I brought up some rough diamonds and it takes time for those to change into a shaped gem. After all, it's by imagining and visualising that we can make our dreams come true.


@Arak my friend, I truly appreciate your concern but N is off the table.

 

[bubbletea]

I'm afraid it's time to ignore our most "gentle N scammer". I guess by now it isn't a secret anymore for our most attentive audience that @Chinaski is working for our most trustable N source A and getting his bonus from every well delivered new N customer. It's a pity cause he has some good (even laughable) points now and then but this doesn't add anything of worth to our new research and I expect it to not change in the nearby future. @Salvatore is a dummy teat.

Yes I brought up some rough diamonds and it takes time for those to change into a shaped gem. After all, it's by imagining and visualising that we can make our dreams come true.


@Arak my friend, I truly appreciate your concern but N is off the table.

Sorry but could you explain what you're talking about? Is A no longer a trusted resource of n or is n no longer a good method?

 

[Chinaski]

I'm afraid it's time to ignore our most "gentle N scammer". I guess by now it isn't a secret anymore for our most attentive audience that @Chinaski is working for our most trustable N source A and getting his bonus from every well delivered new N customer. It's a pity cause he has some good (even laughable) points now and then but this doesn't add anything of worth to our new research and I expect it to not change in the nearby future. @Salvatore is a dummy teat.

"So anyway, first she says Chinaski is an N scammer, then this freakin' broad sends a fuckin' email offering me 15000 dollars to get Tommy to whack her..."

 

[Idorus]

Sorry but could you explain what you're talking about? Is A no longer a trusted resource of n or is n no longer a good method?

A is a perfectly safe address for N, the one and only (do not trust other vendors)
N might be one of the most horrible methods available, but most will disagree.

 

[bubbletea]

A is a perfectly safe address for N, the one and only (do not trust other vendors)
N might be one of the most horrible methods available, but most will disagree.

I'm trying to understand as to why you believe so through the comments in this thread, but I'm having trouble understanding why. Do you mind explaining a little bit? I've read through your sources but I can't see why n could be considered such a horrible method, considering it's been used officially for medically assisted deaths.

A is a perfectly safe address for N, the one and only (do not trust other vendors)
N might be one of the most horrible methods available, but most will disagree.

Would you consider sn a better method?

 

[Jupiter]

I will already grace you with the most important table of problems and complications during 'assisted suicide (drinking N)' and 'euthanasia (injection)' but for the rest, read it yourself and draw your own conclusion. Here the link to the article: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM200002243420805

@Idorus The statement you made above is simply NOT true. The way you present it people might assume that all patients mentioned in this study died with N. Which is not the case. Out of the 535 individuals who chose euthanasia only 10% (56 people) used a barbiturate to end their lives. 81 (71%) of the 114 cases who went out by assisted suicide also chose a barbiturate. All the other patients chose either a neuromuscular relaxant, potassium chloride, opioids or other drugs and combinations.


@Idorus, please if you put out studies like that in the future then do it more thoroughly. I always appreciated your contributions to the forum. But this was a no go.
One last question (genuine): Are you really promoting the hitman/mafia method? Or is this a joke?

 

[OfficerK]

@Idorus The statement you made above is simply NOT true. The way you present it people might assume that all patients mentioned in this study died with N. Which is not the case. Out of the 535 individuals who chose euthanasia only 10% (56 people) used a barbiturate to end their lives. 81 (71%) of the 114 cases who went out by assisted suicide also chose a barbiturate. All the other patients chose either a neuromuscular relaxant, potassium chloride, opioids or other drugs and combinations.
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@Idorus, please if you put out studies like that in the future then do it more thoroughly. I always appreciated your contributions to the forum. But this was a no go.
One last question (genuine): Are you really promoting the hitman/mafia method? Or is this a joke?

And as they themselves mentioned in another post, the quantity of N provided has increased from 9 g to 15 g (A sells 1, 2 or 3 times 6 g, with the most common and recommended amount being two bottles). We also don't know the specifics of the failed attempts. Did they fail because they spat out some of the N because of the taste? Were they heavily overweight? What is interesting is the effectiveness of attempts where mostly everything went as planned.

 

[Deleted member 4993]

So is @Chinaski on a bonus ? Lmao
It was someone else accused of that last time if I remember correctly :-)

 

[Chinaski]

So is @Chinaski on a bonus ? Lmao
It was someone else accused of that last time if I remember correctly :-)

75 pesos per PM. Two more "hey were do i get n" pms and I'll have the 15k l need to book my own genuinely personal peaceful exit by logging on to Omerta4U.com and completing a simple online assessment.

 

[Janica333]

Well unfortunately most deaths involve pain unless your head spontaneously explodes, there's an idea! A dozen fireworks strapped to your head should be able to do that.

Not all. That's why there are many accidental deaths every year. If there was any signs people or their parents, spouse etc. would call 911.
Read the info from euthanasia sites. There are people who have held hand when ill and old have died. They know for sure. Here are people with failed attempts (which cause pain) and people who fear themselves and it doesn't really give right info.
Euthanasia sites tell methods that are proved to be peacefull but they must be done the right way.

 

[Johnnythefox]

Not all. That's why there are many accidental deaths every year. If there was any signs people or their parents, spouse etc. would call 911.
Read the info from euthanasia sites. There are people who have held hand when ill and old have died. They know for sure. Here are people with failed attempts (which cause pain) and people who fear themselves and it doesn't really give right info.
Euthanasia sites tell methods that are proved to be peacefull but they must be done the right way.

Thanks, I appreciate your input, but I did say "most" and not all.

 

[Idorus]

@Idorus The statement you made above is simply NOT true. The way you present it people might assume that all patients mentioned in this study died with N. Which is not the case. Out of the 535 individuals who chose euthanasia only 10% (56 people) used a barbiturate to end their lives. 81 (71%) of the 114 cases who went out by assisted suicide also chose a barbiturate. All the other patients chose either a neuromuscular relaxant, potassium chloride, opioids or other drugs and combinations.

@Idorus, please if you put out studies like that in the future then do it more thoroughly. I always appreciated your contributions to the forum. But this was a no go.
One last question (genuine): Are you really promoting the hitman/mafia method? Or is this a joke?

@Jupiter, I get that and I was aware of it (hence putting 'drinking N' in brackets but you're right, I should've added "a.o." and with that I simply assumed people could read it for themselves). But does it matter? We might only guess now about the nr. of barbiturate takers not ending up in a coma (or too late) while it happened in 14 out of 114 cases (of which 81 barbiturate). I assume there would have been at least some specification about which substance might have triggered a bad outcome but nope nor read about it anywhere. And then we forget the KNMG guideline from 2012 as well, which clearly states the preference of euthanasia above the oral method because of those unpredictabilities. And yes the only difference since then might be the taken 15 grams these days. But that doesn't convince me in any way. To not even mention the subjective suffering which I (!) suspect might be so much worse than one can imagine when being a hard-luck case. Nope, I ain't promoting anything, I'm simply genuinely interested in hiring a hitman which yes, would definitely be preferable over N. At least that is my take,

I'm trying to understand as to why you believe so through the comments in this thread, but I'm having trouble understanding why. Do you mind explaining a little bit? I've read through your sources but I can't see why n could be considered such a horrible method, considering it's been used officially for medically assisted deaths.

Would you consider sn a better method?

Next to it being of utmost importance to thoroughly read this thread I will refer you to some repulsive image material in the thread "the Smedley video" (just type in the search bar of SS). Don't forget to thoroughly read that thread as well. If you arrive at the conclusion it isn't all that bad, then it's up to you. I simply encourage everyone to draw their own line. Mine is drawn for any oral way out and being close nowadays to living up the title of this thread.