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ronigail9

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Oct 5, 2019
156
What gives me comfort is that if he's really going to send me to hell for refusing his terms, then he was not deserving of my love and respect in the first place. Either he would understand, or I'd happily burn in hell knowing I made the moral choice.
you would happily burn in hell, but you are on a suicidal website because you cannot be happy with 80 years of human life.
 
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lonerclown666

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Dec 1, 2020
540
You dont go to hell if u dont commit any crime
but i am sure hell dont exist
 
Last Caress

Last Caress

You need to relax..
Dec 25, 2019
49
Let me tell you a thing: God won't hurt you because God is love itself. You don't depend on God's decisions, you depend on yours. Basically, you choose what kind of reality will wait for you. If deep inside you you were a good and caring and loving person and you know deep inside you that you deserve happiness, this is what the afterlife will be for you. If you will ctb someday, try to be happy and love yourself and everything around you, raise your vibration, and love will be waiting for you in the realm of peace. I like to think like this: Earth is the hell, is the place we have to learn a lesson, and death is the lesson. Peace my friend!
 
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Rayzieka

Not Really Here
Apr 28, 2021
637
I've always thought religion was ridiculous even though I'm diagnosed schizophrenic as well.
In my eyes the worst thing I could possibly do for myself is fall into religion and gain delusions around it.
I'll be honest- I feel myself giving into those crazy thoughts that there are gods/demons controlling my mind or speaking inside me.
But I grab back onto that rope of sanity that I've made for myself. Because even if those delusions are reality- just let the fire take me.
Because my living world would become the description of burning hell if I give into delusions that strong and I have a hard enough time trusting that I don't believe my hallucinations are hiding physical objects from me or that everyone around me is reading my mind. The worst thing about this condition is the uncertainty so please stay strong and keep fighting back against it. Once you slip you can find yourself in a hospital or worse.
 
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TheBlackSwordsman

Student
Apr 24, 2019
118
I think heaven and hell in the way they are most understood, are rudimentary ways of getting people to behave in a proper fashion, until they are evolved enough to understand why, sort of like how children are told be nice and santa will give you presents. I think of them more as states of being than anything else. Many of the early christian church(1st-4thcentury AD) fathers expressed the perspective that the scriptures were not meant to be taken literally, and that the literal interpretations were for the ""simple-minded" and the "common crowd who are led on to live better lives by their belief."(Origen, Contra Celsum.) The Zohar, and supremely respected Jewish theologian Moses Maimonides among others, shared this perspective. Some people in their lifetimes question what they are told and look for something more. Others, do not. Each in his own time, I guess. Ultimately, I think the answer lies in the parable of the prodigal son. No matter how much time we spend in a far away country, upon our return, we will always be welcomed home.
 
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Deleted_9cKnXB34QG

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Jun 26, 2018
501
Woah, Dawkins was right when he wrote that religious indoctrination is basically child abuse...
 
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dietsodamnsad

dietsodamnsad

Choosing a title is a lot of pressure :/
Apr 8, 2020
36
If there's a hell I deserve to go there and be punished. I deserve to suffer.
 
FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,470
If a hell exists, then it's this life. I personally believe there is nothing after death.
 
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hatelife

Experienced
Oct 13, 2019
269
thanks, if you have any more videos about curing schizophrenia id like to see them, its the 1 and only reason i want to ctb. i hate living life on medication and hearing voices

I've always thought religion was ridiculous even though I'm diagnosed schizophrenic as well.
In my eyes the worst thing I could possibly do for myself is fall into religion and gain delusions around it.
I'll be honest- I feel myself giving into those crazy thoughts that there are gods/demons controlling my mind or speaking inside me.
But I grab back onto that rope of sanity that I've made for myself. Because even if those delusions are reality- just let the fire take me.
Because my living world would become the description of burning hell if I give into delusions that strong and I have a hard enough time trusting that I don't believe my hallucinations are hiding physical objects from me or that everyone around me is reading my mind. The worst thing about this condition is the uncertainty so please stay strong and keep fighting back against it. Once you slip you can find yourself in a hospital or worse.
Yeah I too believe at times teve is talking to me and spirits/God hates me/trying to tell me something by messing with electricity, but u know who is the crazy one really, those scientist dont know alot, some things are maybe true, I can sense some of these things, there is a science theory called boltzman brain maybe
 
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Beachedwhale

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Mar 3, 2021
526
Woah, Dawkins was right when he wrote that religious indoctrination is basically child abuse...
I remember when I was a teenager being so offended by Dawkins and thinking religion is compatible with science.

Its really so sad. There was an anti gay venom inside me called religion and I was the one who deliberately injected it, because I had already hated myself by that point for not being able to fit in anywhere and for thinking there was some kind of gay disease inside me because I hooked up with an older man and liked cock.

Religion is one of the most unnecessary and damaging things we have created. Its a crime against humanity.
 
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lonerclown666

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Dec 1, 2020
540
i am already in hell so i dont care
 
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hatelife

Experienced
Oct 13, 2019
269
thanks, if you have any more videos about curing schizophrenia id like to see them, its the 1 and only reason i want to ctb. i hate living life on medication and hearing voices
hey how are you doing thus far? I have something similar with me, its hard to stand at times, its like images and feeling, like nightmares and what others have said about ones looks too and person.
How do u cope with it?
 
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nothanksgetlost

New Member
Jun 16, 2021
4
I believe hell is 100% real, and that the only way out of it is if you repent and believe the gospel message. I also believe that actually believing it, is a gift of God. The Bible talks about being "born again." I think this happened to me when I was around fourteen years old, and it was really something different, because for the first time in my life I felt like I was actually trusting in God for my salvation, and I felt a sort of hatred for the sin in my life that had been going on at the time, and I actually wept at the time because I had already been baptized and made a profession of faith but I knew I was really just faking it, and trying to do the right things to go to heaven(which by the way, I think the Bible teaches this is impossible). There's a doctrine called Calvinism, and it essentially teaches that God chooses to save some people in an eternal sense, while he is kind to the whole world in granting them life, even though it may not feel like a kindness to some of us. The gospel begins with God. He is holy, just, loving, merciful, gracious, wrathful, not only loving. He created the world and everything in it. God created Adam and Eve, and they sinned. The Bible teaches that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, meaning we are all going to hell by default. Thankfully it doesn't end there. Jesus Christ came into the world, lived a perfect life, and was beaten, mocked, and brutally killed for the sake of those who would believe in him, he rose again on the third day, and the father's wrath was satisfied. We must repent of all ur sin, and believe the Gospel to be saved. If your faith is truly in Jesus Christ, you will be saved.
 
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motel rooms

Survivor of incest. Gay. Please don't PM me.
Apr 13, 2021
7,081
I have had a lot of suicidal thoughts for the first time in my life over the last month or so. My SN is supposed to arrive tomorrow night.
So, you think you're going to hell if you end your life?
 
demuic

demuic

Life was a mistake
Sep 12, 2020
1,383
There is no such thing as heaven or hell. (Or reincarnation, past lives, etc.) These concepts were made up by humans in order to control and indoctrinate people into being obedient and compliant sheep who will follow the rules they made up for the purposes of obtaining power and wealth.

They have swindled the vast majority of humanity and continue to swindle to this day.

No human being is divine. Anyone who claims to be or have a special connection to "god" is a fraud and a crook trying to make you into a slave.

Every religion is a cult, but some are worse than others.
 
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Supersadmommy90

Student
Sep 24, 2019
186
Even though I'm a failure I still feel that God values my life and has various tasks and duties for me to fulfill and so for me, it would definitely be a sin to kill myself because I would be shirking my duties.
 
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nothanksgetlost

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Jun 16, 2021
4
Even though I'm a failure I still feel that God values my life and has various tasks and duties for me to fulfill and so for me, it would definitely be a sin to kill myself because I would be shirking my duties.
I am in a similar position. I'm absolutely not saying it's not a sin, it is for sure, and it would have many lingering effects on my family and church.
 
motel rooms

motel rooms

Survivor of incest. Gay. Please don't PM me.
Apr 13, 2021
7,081
I really don't think so, no. I don't think it's an unforgivable sin.

Good. Your post was pretty scary.
Even though I'm a failure I still feel that God values my life and has various tasks and duties for me to fulfill and so for me, it would definitely be a sin to kill myself because I would be shirking my duties.
Do you find being a member of this forum helpful?
 
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ClairyFairy

Wizard
Jan 22, 2021
622
Raised roman Catholic here. Recant on your deathbed. Job done! I'm not a believer but if there's a chance for me to do it I am
 
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motel rooms

Survivor of incest. Gay. Please don't PM me.
Apr 13, 2021
7,081
Raised roman Catholic here. Recant on your deathbed. Job done! I'm not a believer but if there's a chance for me to do it I am
Sneaky :haha: :sunglasses:
 
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xkonstantinexx

Member
Jun 11, 2021
78
I grew up in a staunch Catholic family where throughout my childhood and teenage years, I was indoctrinated with the belief that to CBT is to reject a gift from God and I will end up in hell for all eternity. I used to struggle with this thought.

Now I choose to focus on what I want and what I know will happen rather than what might.
 
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MyStateKilledMe

Arcanist
Apr 23, 2020
463
Look at my tagline "The Hell I'm going to for CTB'ing is the Garden of Eden compared to the Hell I'm leaving."

Also think science. When you die, your nerve endings stay with your body. You can't feel pain once you're dead. "You", as in your soul, can't feel physical pain. So whatever lake of fire you end up in for CTB'ing, it's gonna feel like nothing. The worst you'll feel is boredom. from swimming in a burning lake for all eternity. (Then again, a garden of fruit trees is only marginally more fun, if you're spending an eternity there.)

The only reason pro-lifers fear Hell so much is that they project physical pain onto their souls, and that they don't realize that flames and fruit trees aren't much different when you're stuck there for eternity and can't feel anything physical.
 
Supersadmommy90

Supersadmommy90

Student
Sep 24, 2019
186
I am in a similar position. I'm absolutely not saying it's not a sin, it is for sure, and it would have many lingering effects on my family and church.
Yes, exactly. I feel that if I meet God prematurely on my own terms instead of God's, I will get a lesser reward, if any, in heaven. Or that I may even go to hell for not having carried my cross to the end...
Good. Your post was pretty scary.

Do you find being a member of this forum helpful?
Absolutely, yes. This is where I come when I'm at my worst points and moments, like right at this moment for instance. Right now I want to impulsively hang myself without even thinking much about it, Wallowing in excruciating pain here is the closest I can come to feeling relief next to death,
 
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daddy Phil :)

Member
Oct 21, 2020
52
If God would put someone in hell because they suffered so much that they ended their own life, than God wouldn't be a God. I really don't think God would put someone in hell for this. :)
 

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