8evergo
Mage
- Oct 20, 2021
- 550
he probably vomited everything there are also reports that people survived nimbotal because they vomited it
30,000 DOLLARS FOR 100G! You could've bought that much for way way less, with that much money you could have bought 27 pentobarbital bottles from D
edit: Nevermind you said 3,000. That's only 2 bottles....
Last edited:
wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
- 1,419
This article is about NitrAte. Not Nitrite.About lethal dose of SN - here is interesting med article:
Case Report: A non-fatal intoxication with a high-dose sodium nitrate
A 67-year-old man accidentally ingested 75 g of sodium nitrate. He had instant gastrointestinal symptoms. On physical examination, he was respiratorily and haemodynamically stable and there were no signs of central or peripheral cyanosis. Repeated ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
4g - 30g is deadly
Here is a patient (article above) who ingested 75g!
Big difference in fatality/risk.
Nitrate is not Nitrite.
Many countries use commas instead of periods to mark dollars vs cents.
So 30,00$ is the same as $30.00
I tested a similar amount but did not go to the hospital (clearly I did not die either). Having done that, I would agree with OP that I would not be able to successfully drink and/or keep down 20g of this stuff, anti-nausea or not. There's absolutely no way. I would opt for a smaller amount too.
OP: About the suspected lidocaine self-poisoning (accidental or not), did they know you were a med student? If they did, they probably knew you had access to any number of substances to "deal with your dental work"... I believe they also use this for endoscopies (upper GI), in much larger amounts.
I wonder if the ER docs knew it was semi-intentional poisoning but figured that it would do more damage than good if they kept you, considering that 1) You're a med student and 2) You did show up on your own, with an family member... The stats for people CTB'ing after being released from a mandatory hold are astounding. If they had held you, even for an hour, they would be responsible if you subsequently CTB. If they claim they saw no danger, they're probably "off the hook"... (I am speculating, I don't know the legal details).
(I ended up in the ER after a true accidental OD and they held me for evaluation in psych and when they finally let me go, 8 hours later, I had to walk 1h home because all I wanted to do was CTB in the subway)
OP: About the suspected lidocaine self-poisoning (accidental or not), did they know you were a med student? If they did, they probably knew you had access to any number of substances to "deal with your dental work"... I believe they also use this for endoscopies (upper GI), in much larger amounts.
I wonder if the ER docs knew it was semi-intentional poisoning but figured that it would do more damage than good if they kept you, considering that 1) You're a med student and 2) You did show up on your own, with an family member... The stats for people CTB'ing after being released from a mandatory hold are astounding. If they had held you, even for an hour, they would be responsible if you subsequently CTB. If they claim they saw no danger, they're probably "off the hook"... (I am speculating, I don't know the legal details).
(I ended up in the ER after a true accidental OD and they held me for evaluation in psych and when they finally let me go, 8 hours later, I had to walk 1h home because all I wanted to do was CTB in the subway)
icetea15
f*ck bpd and you'll be free
- Apr 12, 2020
- 88
Totally on your side with your opinion on the amount :D
Yes, they knew indeed I was studying humane medicine. They knew it anyway somehow just by me describing my symptoms and using technical terms or my comments.
It's a interesting theory though. I don't know the answer to that but I can say they "tried" really hard to set the "suicide stamp" on me.
Just to mention some technics:
- They tested my blood on numerous drugs
- They tested my vomit
- They tested my salive (or is it spelled saliva? The mouthwater thing)
- They asked me countless times at every stage awake, nauseous, tired, partly-dead if I took something
- They tested my urine
I think they tried really hard to gain anything to label it as a suicide attempt OR their were just curious because otherwise they had no plan at all. The lidocaine-thing was full of bullshit and I think they knew that but couldn't just write "We don't fucking know" on the report.
Of course we don't know, but to me it sounds like they highly suspected it, but they knew you weren't going to disclose the substance so they had to go investigate... Also, being a med student, if they didn't "save you", it would have been known all over the hospital, your university, the media... I actually read a lot of cases about unintentional lidocaine "poisoning" during procedures by doctors... Unintentional because the patient was probably hypersensitive/allergic and the amount was too much and they had an SN-type reaction which they had to quickly reverse...
How long ago was this?
Joeydoe
Member
- Aug 17, 2022
- 71
Then how did they know to give you methylene blue?
What does "I don't know how to get it now" mean?
Last edited:
Joeydoe
Member
- Aug 17, 2022
- 71
A medical student doesn't realize the difference?
So then they did, in fact, suspect it might be sn?
If you want to die do badly, why go to the hospital?
Last edited:
icetea15
f*ck bpd and you'll be free
- Apr 12, 2020
- 88
1. Because mythelenblue and toluidinblue are common used antidots to decrease the amount of methoglobine in your blood no matter what it caused. It eliminates this symptom.
2. Someone asked me how to get SN and I told him "I don't know how to get it NOW" because mine is like a year old and since then I haven't spent a minute in researching how to obtain it now. English is my second language and even now I think this sentence is grammatically correct
Correct me if I'm wrong.Why wouldn't you get it from the same supplier? I'm asking because I'm waiting for him to ship my package(which I doubt that he will actually do), so I'm wondering if there's a good reason that you're avoiding him now1. Because mythelenblue and toluidinblue are common used antidots to decrease the amount of methoglobine in your blood no matter what it caused. It eliminates this symptom.
2. Someone asked me how to get SN and I told him "I don't know how to get it NOW" because mine is like a year old and since then I haven't spent a minute in researching how to obtain it now. English is my second language and even now I think this sentence is grammatically correct
WaitingForMyRide
Order out of chaos
- Sep 6, 2022
- 115
Thank you for this write-up. All though I do think you went through some unnecessary suffering. But hey, I understand if you wanted to test out the effects before you CTB.
Joeydoe
Member
- Aug 17, 2022
- 71
wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
- 1,419
The person you were quoting (and are now trolling) is just another member here. Not the medical student. They also made the comment "rookie mistake" regarding an article mixing up nitrate and nitrite as well as different styles of writing sums of money (with and without comma). It happens. Nothing to poke someone for.
The medical student is @icetea15
Two different people.
Mofreeko
Arcanist
- Apr 7, 2019
- 478
@icetea15 's documenting his experience with SN is invaluable to me. It really put my mind at ease with this method.
Joeydoe
Member
- Aug 17, 2022
- 71
I apologize for inciting your scolding. Am I not free to ask questions? Should I silence myself in the face of the threat of being called names? We are here to share genuine information about ending our lives as peacefully as possible, no? So are we expected to take just any-old-body's word for it without question, or shouldn't we call people out when their stories make no sense, in an attempt to prevent some unsuspecting individual from following methods that may, could, be inaccurate and may, could, cause them potentially severe consequences?
emgrl
Mage
- Aug 6, 2022
- 575
Absolutely, you're free to ask anything you want, I get your questions… you were just asking the wrong person. Hope that helps clarify things a bit
Can't disagree with this post, hell I'm here because of the "medical view" on things which is severely lacking in some very important areas, particularly the mechanism and systemic interaction of medication. But I like this idea of an intermediate dose that might be a bit more frog in the pot.
wljourney
Waiting for the bus
- Apr 2, 2022
- 1,419
Exactly. Thank you.Absolutely, you're free to ask anything you want, I get your questions… you were just asking the wrong person. Hope that helps clarify things a bit
@Joeydoe nobody is calling you names or threatening you. I pointed out that you made a mistake and that @Advisor321 is not @icetea15
Different people. Unrelated apology for a mixup. Not the fault of the OP. People make mistakes and sometimes they need to be made aware so they don't go down a rabbit hole.
Some people say "oops, my bad" and we all move on. Others of course cry over being censored, silenced or whatnot. It's a choice.
Joeydoe
Member
- Aug 17, 2022
- 71
Justnotme
I want to hang myself
- Mar 7, 2022
- 631
@icetea15 Thank you very much for sharing your experience and not disregarding forum members who are worried about this method. Tell me, please, what do you think about nitrite and gastritis? Is there a possibility that I will be hurt if I have chronic gastritis (not an ulcer, but gastritis)?
hunterfla
Experienced
- Sep 13, 2022
- 229
Thank you for telling your story, it's a most fascinating and useful for those of us who want/need to know what happens in a real life scenario. Also, how are you doing now?
ge0rge
the satanic mechanic
- Jul 29, 2018
- 650
op is hot, wish we could make out (when not brown in the face)
hunterfla
Experienced
- Sep 13, 2022
- 229
Last edited:
ge0rge
the satanic mechanic
- Jul 29, 2018
- 650
hunterfla
Experienced
- Sep 13, 2022
- 229
That's Not Me
A cork on the ocean floating over the raging sea
- Sep 14, 2022
- 108
Forgive me for the possibly silly question, but all those scars and marks on your skin are from the tubes they put in you right? I won't look like that if I consume SN right? I ask this because I was quite agonized to see it and I don't know if I could handle the anxiety of seeing it on my skin. It certainly wouldn't be a peaceful suicide with all that anxiety. I guess I'm one of those people who almost faints when they go for a blood test lol
