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Elaina

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Why isn't anyone here considering sodium azide? It is rated a guaranteed death. Is it more painful?
 
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Why isn't anyone here considering sodium azide? It is rated a guaranteed death. Is it more painful?

It's potentially explosive when it comes in contact with heat or metals, even friction can cause explosion. It releases a toxic gas when combined with water or if you through some of it up. It's too dangerous for others, imo.
 
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OfficerK

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May 6, 2018
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Why isn't anyone here considering sodium azide? It is rated a guaranteed death. Is it more painful?

Yeah, it'll give you a pretty serious headache. It's also harder to obtain than nitrite due to it's explosive qualities.

I think the reason why nitrite is listed lower on reliability is because there is an antidote to it. Don't quote on me on this, but I think it would be rated the same without that. As long as you avoid calling 911 or being detected, you should be fine.
 
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Yeah, it'll give you a pretty serious headache. It's also harder to obtain than nitrite due to it's explosive qualities.

I think the reason why nitrite is listed lower on reliability is because there is an antidote to it. Don't quote on me on this, but I think it would be rated the same without that. As long as you avoid calling 911 or being detected, you should be fine.

That's the impression I got from the case studies as well, as long as you take enough (and even in many cases when you don't) if you don't get rescued you will die.
 
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Nozorel

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May 29, 2018
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Sodium nitrite looks extremely painful, why endure minutes of agony ? Most will probably call an ambulance.
Hanging seems better, you only need to last some seconds at most
 
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Elaina

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I'm leaning more towards using nitrite because its not explosive and for some reason it was rated as more peaceful; I wish the reason for that was explained in the handbook. However, I'm going to be the devil's advocate here. Sodium nitrite might be less painful, but doesn't it take longer to die from? Sodium azide is described as a rapid death and compares to sodium nitrite a speed of 5 V. 3 in the PPH handbook. Also I'm reading the PPH now and both sodium nitrite and azide cause headaches. I can order azide on amazon in my country but I assume thats not the same for all countries.
 
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dangier_to_myself

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Apr 10, 2018
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Yeah, it'll give you a pretty serious headache. It's also harder to obtain than nitrite due to it's explosive qualities.

I think the reason why nitrite is listed lower on reliability is because there is an antidote to it. Don't quote on me on this, but I think it would be rated the same without that. As long as you avoid calling 911 or being detected, you should be fine.
But how CAN I avoid being detected, if I'm outside?!
 
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Sodium nitrite looks extremely painful, why endure minutes of agony ? Most will probably call an ambulance.
Hanging seems better, you only need to last some seconds at most

It depends a lot on how much you take, if you take anti-emetics, and if you're unlucky enough to seizure before going unconscious. I've read case reports of people losing consciousness almost immediately after ingesting, and other's taking an hour. It's definitely more luck of the draw. I'd go with partial suspension hanging or compression method if I weren't disabled.
 
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dangier_to_myself

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That's probably work, I'm pretty sure motillium also requires a script, though you can get it online. It's better than emetrol, which is pretty useless for this sort of thing.
And I'm worried that online pharmacies will clean out my bank account. Reddit said they would
 
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And I'm worried that online pharmacies will clean out my bank account. Reddit said they would
Then you'll have to either take the risk, do without, or find another method. I got mine from alldaychemist.com, they were fine.
 
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OfficerK

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There are ways to protect yourself from that, as mentioned earlier in this thread. Set up a bank account with only the amount needed for the purchase, get a prepaid card, use cryptocurrency if possible.
 
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dangier_to_myself

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Apr 10, 2018
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Then you'll have to either take the risk, do without, or find another method. I got mine from alldaychemist.com, they were fine.
Yeah, alldaychemist was the one that I heard steals all of one's money. How long did it take to arrive?
 
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Yeah, alldaychemist was the one that I heard steals all of one's money. How long did it take to arrive?
About 2 weeks, I think. They did not clean my bank account out.
 
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dangier_to_myself

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There are ways to protect yourself from that, as mentioned earlier in this thread. Set up a bank account with only the amount needed for the purchase, get a prepaid card, use cryptocurrency if possible.
Buddy, I can barely figure out how the atm works
 
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Elaina

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May 16, 2018
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Sodium nitrite looks extremely painful, why endure minutes of agony ? Most will probably call an ambulance.
Hanging seems better, you only need to last some seconds at most
I can't figure out hanging for the life of me. Otherwise I'd go with this method, I agree.
 
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There's your problem: listening to Reddit. :haha:
what do you think of the sodium nitrite method, El Topo? you're more knowledgeable about methods than I am. Is it a horrible way, or relatively tolerable?
 
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what do you think of the sodium nitrite method, El Topo? you're more knowledgeable about methods than I am. Is it a horrible way, or relatively tolerable?

I doubt there's anything about sodium nitrite I could tell you that you don't already know. Can it work? Obviously. Will it be horrible or painful? I honestly don't know. You've spent a lot of time researching this method, and if the reports indicate that a larger dose is more tolerable than a smaller dose, then I guess that's the way to go.

Since nitrite is used to create nitric oxide, which widens the blood vessels and lowers blood pressure, a large enough dose could make you pass out before experiencing any distressing side effects.
 
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Elaina

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I doubt there's anything about sodium nitrite I could tell you that you don't already know. Can it work? Obviously. Will it be horrible or painful? I honestly don't know. You've spent a lot of time researching this method, and if the reports indicate that a larger dose is more tolerable than a smaller dose, then I guess that's the way to go.

Since nitrite is used to create nitric oxide, which widens the blood vessels and lowers blood pressure, a large enough dose could make you pass out before experiencing any distressing side effects.
What's your opinion on sodium azide?
 
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I doubt there's anything about sodium nitrite I could tell you that you don't already know. Can it work? Obviously. Will it be horrible or painful? I honestly don't know. You've spent a lot of time researching this method, and if the reports indicate that a larger dose is more tolerable than a smaller dose, then I guess that's the way to go.

Since nitrite is used to create nitric oxide, which widens the blood vessels and lowers blood pressure, a large enough dose could make you pass out before experiencing any distressing side effects.

I just don't want to be delirious and make a lot of noise (don't want to be found and rescued), mainly, or have a seizure while awake because it'll surely be very painful when you factor in my nerve condition. Stomach pain and all that crap I can handle.
 
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I just don't want to be delirious and make a lot of noise (don't want to be found and rescued), mainly, or have a seizure while awake because it'll surely be very painful when you factor in my nerve condition. Stomach pain and all that crap I can handle.

If you're worried about having a seizure, you could take an anticonvulsant along with the anti-emetic. Chloroquine is one of the medications recommended for self-euthanasia, and it can cause painful convulsions, but if people take diazepam beforehand it prevents those effects.
 
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If you're worried about having a seizure, you could take an anticonvulsant along with the anti-emetic. Chloroquine is one of the medications recommended for self-euthanasia, and it can cause painful convulsions, but if people take diazepam beforehand it prevents those effects.

I dunno where to get diazapam, I only know of alldaychemist that's legit and they don't have it.
 
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FakeNews

Student
Apr 30, 2018
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I dunno where to get diazapam, I only know of alldaychemist that's legit and they don't have it.

Dream Market, yes it's a dark net site. But diazepam is one of the easier, less fraud ridden drugs to get there.
 
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everwhatever

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May 15, 2018
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I'm gonna do it tomorrow and I'm a little nervous, I just don't know what to expect, but it's normal.
 
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Sonnenblume

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I'm gonna do it tomorrow and I'm a little nervous, I just don't know what to expect, but it's normal.

Good luck! I wish you could tell me how it goes, but if you could that probably would mean it didn't go well.
 
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everwhatever

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May 15, 2018
25
Good luck! I wish you could tell me how it goes, but if you could that probably would mean it didn't go well.
Thanks, good luck to you and everyone who wanna die, especially if they gonna use this method. If you wanna learn it, you can call an ambulance after ingestion of SN, but medics can arrive too soon or too late, so it's risky.
 
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