Resource SN megathread

[mattwitt]

Do yall know if sn will be shown in the autopsy (if it gets to kill me)? or how is the cause of death shown in it?

I think your lips turn green or blue when you die by poison so they'll do tests and find out.

 

[SadHoe]

I think your lips turn green or blue when you die by poison so they'll do tests and find out.

Thanks, I guess its not as bad as being found hung up to the roof.

 

[Lifeisatrap]

I have an idea, that *might* be a potential alternative to SN. Please have a read and if there are any doctors/scientists on the forum, please let me know your thoughts!

So, the ingestion of SN leads to methemoglobinemia, right? After doing a bit of research I ordered a 250g tub of SN from APC Pure, which I have stored in my kitchen drawer as my 'back up' method / potential additional method in addition to CO poisoning.

After re-reading the PPeH, doing further research and also keeping an eye on this thread, I almost am talking myself out of making use of the SN. I feel like there are too many variables to consider, and the possibility of vomiting and pain are major factors.

Doing further research, I stumbled upon what *seems* like a less invasive way to produce the same result (methemoglobinemia).

Benzocaine.

Some info I have gleaned from Wiki-
"The topical use of higher concentration (14-20%) benzocaine spray products applied to the mouth or mucous membranes has been found to be a cause of methemoglobinemia, a disorder in which the amount of oxygen carried by the blood is greatly reduced."
"Symptoms of methemoglobinemia usually occur within minutes to hours of applying benzocaine, and can occur upon the first-time use or after additional use."

Info from rxlist- "An overdose of benzocaine topical applied to the skin can cause life-threatening side effects such as uneven heartbeats, seizure (convulsions), coma, slowed breathing, or respiratory failure (breathing stops)."

Benzocaine sprays/gels can be bought OTC easily and cheaply. It wouldn't require a great deal of planning (no anti-emetic regimen to worry about) and you wouldn't need acid reducers for the stomach (as it is absorbed directly into the bloodstream via the skin). I think there's also the elimination of the fear factor, rubbing gel onto your skin seems quite therapeutic as opposed to swallowing the SN diluted with water.

The only thing would be to determine an optimum lethal dosage using benzocaine as a method.

I'd like to know people's thoughts. The science behind it is all there. Would it be a viable alternative option, or does it sound 'too good to be true'?

I am seriously considering giving it a go in parallel with charcoal burning in my car. Fire up some coals, maybe toast up some marshmallows to eat, put the grill in my car, give myself an all over body massage with benzocaine gel prior to relaxing in the back seat..... just an idea anyway :)

P.S. Sorry if this was TL;DR. I do suggest giving it a read.x

Great post, always open to suggestions cause getting a hold of the antiemitics and acid reducers seems to be putting alot of people off this method for sure, myself included. The acid reducer was extremely easy for me to attain, but the antiemtics are another story.

 

[throwaway777]

I also can't find any EU sellers for Tagamet, but you can get Zantac instead. It's an acid regulator as well and you can buy it from Greece on ebay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zantac-1...=item2a9e8ae792:g:tbkAAOSwq1JZOCkY:rk:18:pf:0

thank you

 

[Kim]

sorry for asking questions... but could anyone tell me if there's a reliable link for sn that is shipped from a country within the EU?

Hey, I'm from the EU too. I ordered it here: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/sodium-n...h=item33f15c2edd:g:JsEAAOSwRMdb6pNN:rk:7:pf:0

Safe delivery after 2-3 weeks :)

I live in Europe and I ordered Tagamet from USA one month ago, it's still not here.

Hey. I'm ordered from the US a few days ago. Date of delivery: 20 Nov - 20 Dec. I post again when its here ^^

 

[Arak]

@Kim ,

That's a bit slow ! If you know what to do with the things that seller offers in his store I guess you may be able to help yourself with something ... For a moment that ferracyanide caught my eye, but it's of low toxicity it seems.

 

[Kim]

@Arak
I already have SN, Meto and wait for the Tagamet.
Another acid reducer (Pantoprazol / Omeprazol) is in my hands too.

For what do you want the ferracyanide? I don't know anything about it.

 

[cappuccinogirl]

That's one area where Nitschke and the PPH is wrong and misleading. You'd be trying to poison yourself to death and vomiting therefore is highly possible ! Check out Querry1's story he was kind enough to share with everyone on here.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-nitrite-attempt.2902/

There's more than 1 Meto regiment that can be carried out before ingesting SN
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen

So domperidone can be used instead of metro if u don't tolerate that? Thanks

 

[Nem]

Does anyone know of a source of sn that delivers to Canada? I think I still have some antiemetics but might not be able to find them, what is all needed for the sn method?
Peace

 

[Lifeisatrap]

So domperidone can be used instead of metro if u don't tolerate that? Thanks

Yes, both domperidone and meto are viable since they're both of the same class (dopamine blockers).

 

[cappuccinogirl]

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now.. i only need tagamet .. i see that i can buy it from ebay but it comes from usa .. anyone who bought it from eu??

I got raniridine instead
apparently need 200-250 mg. X

 

[Dani Paradox]

Does anyone know of a source of sn that delivers to Canada? I think I still have some antiemetics but might not be able to find them, what is all needed for the sn method?
Peace

This seller ships worldwide:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/sodium-nit...=item33f15c2edd:g:JsEAAOSwRMdb6pNN:rk:11:pf:0


This seller also ships worldwide. Laboratory grade:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sodium-nit...=item4b511206e5:g:nCQAAOSwi3ta9HaO:rk:28:pf:0


This seller ships to Canada. It says that the SN is food grade, which should mean that it's good, but it doesn't actually state the percentage of purity, so I wouldn't personally trust it:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NC-12501-S...=item3f262f217c:g:b68AAOSwN0NaT-B1:rk:19:pf:0


I'm sure you can find someone, man =)

 

[2211264]

Thoughts on my recipe?

Anti emetics for 3 days
Fasting for previous 10/12hrs, some liquid.
Alcohol (40%) (vodka) 30mins prior (4 shots)
Oxycodone 5/10 mins prior (80mg)
Sn approx handful/100/150grams?
Then box cutter for garuantee

 

[Lifeisatrap]

Thoughts on my recipe?

Anti emetics for 3 days
Fasting for previous 10/12hrs, some liquid.
Alcohol (40%) (vodka) 30mins prior (4 shots)
Oxycodone 5/10 mins prior (80mg)
Sn approx handful/100/150grams?
Then box cutter for garuantee

I'm no expert by any means but that sounds like a recipe for failure.

 

[2211264]

I'm no expert by any means but that sounds like a recipe for failure.

How so? I'm confused

 

[2211264]

Oh and anyone want Sn in Australia, please let me know. All I could get was a 25kg bag (50lb).


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Know how to get

 

[Sayo]

So domperidone can be used instead of metro if u don't tolerate that? Thanks

Yes. If you can get ondansetron (Zofran) add a smaller dose of that in too. Be aware domperidone has its own side effects and isn't quite as strong as meto, so there's a chance it could go wrong.

Oh and anyone want Sn in Australia, please let me know. All I could get was a 25kg bag (50lb).


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Know how to get

Should be on eBay.

 

[Lifeisatrap]

I'm no expert by any means but that sounds like a recipe for failure.

That's an execessive amount of sn. Will definately make you puke even with the meto sadly.

 

[2211264]

That's an execessive amount of sn. Will definately make you puke even with the meto sadly.

Thanks, what do you think about a suitable dosage?

 

[Lifeisatrap]

15-20 grams is the recommended dosage.

 

[OfficerK]

The PPEH says 15g, but you're probably aware of that.

Though, I must say that I would advise against cutting your throat on top of using the SN. If you're brave enough to inflict that level of discomfort upon yourself, then I would suggest that you instead replace the boxcutter with jumping from a height. That would be far less painful, while at the same time granting you the same - or even greater - added reliability.

 

[2211264]

The PPEH says 15g, but you're probably aware of that.

Though, I must say that I would advise against cutting your throat on top of using the SN. If you're brave enough to inflict that level of discomfort upon yourself, then I would suggest that you instead replace the boxcutter with jumping from a height. That would be far less painful, while at the same time granting you the same - or even greater - added reliability.

Are you inferring that slashing wrists/throat, would reduce reliability?
If so how?
Curious is all, I would have thought it would help to ensure the end

 

[OfficerK]

Are you inferring that slashing wrists/throat, would reduce reliability?
If so how?
Curious is all, I would have thought it would help to ensure the end

Nope, my sentence says that jumping will give the same added reliability as the boxcutter, which means that the boxcutter can also make it more reliable. Jumping would be preferable primarily because it is less painful.

That being said, I can imagine that the pain caused by cutting your throat would make it more likely for you to seek out help. Of course, that depends on how deep the cut is and whether you're physically capable of doing so.

 

[2211264]

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Nope, my sentence says that jumping will give the same added reliability as the boxcutter, which means that the boxcutter can also make it more reliable. Jumping would be preferable primarily because it is less painful.

That being said, I can imagine that the pain caused by cutting your throat would make it more likely for you to seek out help. Of course, that depends on how deep the cut is and whether your physically capable of doing so.

sorry my bad, just got confused, said it out aloud and made sense

 

[Arak]

now.. i only need tagamet .. i see that i can buy it from ebay but it comes from usa .. anyone who bought it from eu??

Ranitidine is something you can get from Ebay Europe.

 

[Arak]

So domperidone can be used instead of metro if u don't tolerate that? Thanks

Sources claim you can, but I'd be cautious. Check out a few posts in a recent thread. A moderator posted some good info.

@Kim , toxic cyanide is useful ... but this stuff isn't that lethal.

 

[throwaway777]

for the people who ordered sn from here :
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sodium-N...334616?hash=item1ee6734bd8:g:AeYAAOSw3cZbVetf ..how was the package? did u sign anything?

 

[cappuccinogirl]

Hi does anyone have any thoughts on if you should take anti emetic and antacid at same time. Read anti emetics should be 45 mins to hour before. Thanks

 

[Jaded]

for the people who ordered sn from here :
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sodium-N...334616?hash=item1ee6734bd8:g:AeYAAOSw3cZbVetf ..how was the package? did u sign anything?

It was just a small cardboard box that I signed for. It's a specific delivery van and you can track the package.

 

[Cody111]

Hiya,

Ive read through the first 15 or so pages of this thread. Got a few questions about the things involved.

First up, not so much a question, but the SN is obviously needed. For those pf you having issues finding it possibly try a company that produces for idustrial use for food conpanys. I found one that was selling bulk but also in smaller amounts for lests... say, at home chefs or hobbyists.
You want to same sure you get nitrite and not nitate. There is a difference.
And you want pure of close as, not food grade.

The antiemetics confuse me a bit, why do they need to be dopamine blockers? And as someone suggested most antispychotics are dopamine blockers, would these along with antihistamine based antiemetics work?

The stomach acid reducer, can any stomach acid reducer or blocker work?

Also a fair few people mentioned valium or benzos in general. This is purely for the slight sedation and to prevent sezures right?

There is more to it my questions but ill wait for a bit more info before making myself look completly uneducated :p