Resource SN megathread

[Sageiois]

Would it work if i didnt take the medication and just took the sn after smoking some weed for the anti emetic?

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

Is clumpy texture and yellow color an idicator of low quality SN? Does anyone know?

 

[fancifulfate]

Would it work if i didnt take the medication and just took the sn after smoking some weed for the anti emetic?

No, you'd vomit. You need a specific antiemetic that works on dopamine receptors.


Can I drink alcohol before taking SN? Plan on taking clonazepam but my tolerance is high for benzos. Would love to go out a bit tipsy but don't wanna fuck things up. No plans too soon as I have some stuff to do before I CTB.

I got everything else I need plus plenty of meto. Would taking famotidine still be a good idea or is it generally regarded to fast and not take an antacid but just Tylenol +meto beforehand? Really hoping I can mix some alcohol with this and really be relaxed af.

 

[Sageiois]

No, you'd vomit. You need a specific antiemetic that works on dopamine receptors.


Can I drink alcohol before taking SN? Plan on taking clonazepam but my tolerance is high for benzos. Would love to go out a bit tipsy but don't wanna fuck things up. No plans too soon as I have some stuff to do before I CTB.

I got everything else I need plus plenty of meto. Would taking famotidine still be a good idea or is it generally regarded to fast and not take an antacid but just Tylenol +meto beforehand? Really hoping I can mix some alcohol with this and really be relaxed af.

What would be a way i can get it over the counter, its all i can get atm

 

[fancifulfate]

What would be a way i can get it over the counter, its all i can get atm

You can't get it OTC. You'll need to wait until you can get a prescription for meto.

 

[ctemourge]

thank you so much for the info. i have xanax and zofran for the anti emetic, i just gotta find my way to some SN. i seriously cant take this pain anymore

 

[calm_canine]

What would be a way i can get it over the counter, its all i can get atm

We're not allowed to share specific sources on here, but there are places you can purchase it. Trans DIY HRT resources are easy to find online, and the same websites that sell those meds also often sell meto. That's how I ordered mine.

 

[sundown12]

i'm scared of this method because i feel like there's gonna be a lot of discomfort in the stomach and possibly seizures. also i'm afraid of failing and ending up in a psych ward for 10000 years

 

[hikikomori_]

How salty is the SN supposed to be? I have food sensory, so if something taste really gross then I throw it up automatically.

 

[Yavannah]

does anyone know if there are sellers that ship SN in pouch like KL did instead of the big plastic containers?

 

[Kta1994]

Can somebody help me on making this better? or is this ok?

Meloxicam(nsaid) 1 hour before
Domperidone 3 pills 45min before
Clonazepam 1mg 30min before
Milk of magnesia 1TBSP 10 min before
25g SN

I plan on doing next week

 

[SenseOfLoss]

Has anyone ever reported that they had bad side effects after taking the 3x10 mg domperidone tablets and then couldn't take the SN?

 

[Onelegman]

Hello, I just discovered this method and the truth is that it seems quite promising to me.
My questions are: as a 76 kg man, how much NS should I ingest? I think my mother is prescribed Primperan, so a big hurdle cleared. 2 pills should be enough, right?
And how much of the acidity regulator would you need?

The times to take everything before the NS are not clear to me, due to my weight and because, if necessary, I would do it on an empty stomach, to avoid unnecessary waiting.

Thank you very much for this megathread, I continue reading and learning but I lack time and many people deviate from the topic or talk about other medications and I simply get confused.

 

[Onelegman]

They recommended Stan's guide to the SN and it is super complete. Although I have some questions, maybe someone can answer them.

I think that for me the 48h method would be ideal. But when it comes to fasting... would it be 48 hours? Not right? It is 4-8 hours prior to ingesting the SN.

I think I will have everything I need, the biggest problem, if you can call it that, is the taste, the nausea and the vomiting, if I vomit, the antacids make me absorb as much as possible before throwing it out. I hope so... but now it is said in the PPeH that antacids are not recommended. What does the opposite of what is desired, causing faster absorption of the SN. What is the truth? Better with or without antacid

Any other threads or tips I should look into? Thanks again

 

[DeIetedUser4739]

Hello, I just discovered this method and the truth is that it seems quite promising to me.
My questions are: as a 76 kg man, how much NS should I ingest? I think my mother is prescribed Primperan, so a big hurdle cleared. 2 pills should be enough, right?
And how much of the acidity regulator would you need?

The times to take everything before the NS are not clear to me, due to my weight and because, if necessary, I would do it on an empty stomach, to avoid unnecessary waiting.

Thank you very much for this megathread, I continue reading and learning but I lack time and many people deviate from the topic or talk about other medications and I simply get confused.

25g if under 100kg and maybe reading some goodbye threads would help understand what you'd expect to go through.

 

[Onelegman]

25g if under 100kg and maybe reading some goodbye threads would help understand what you'd expect to go through.

I'm on it, Vizzy created a very complete piece of thread. And right now I just read his last farewell message, I guess he got it. I'm very happy to hear it. Everything indicates that if everything is done point by point, the possibility of success will be high.

 

[DeIetedUser4739]

I'm on it, Vizzy created a very complete piece of thread. And right now I just read his last farewell message, I guess he got it. I'm very happy to hear it. Everything indicates that if everything is done point by point, the possibility of success will be high.

I found this one the most helpful so far: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/goodbye-thread-3.162754/

 

[Onelegman]

The worst thing I'm going to have is fasting, I don't live alone and I refuse to pay for a hotel to die in. It is not unusual for me to have problems eating, I suppose I can refuse dinner, saying that I will eat something later in the morning. I also have to adjust the schedules because I couldn't even do it at midnight.

I will write down all the steps, I have to check the incompatibility with some medications, because throughout the day I take 20 mg omeoprazole (a stomach protector), 2 mg of lorazepam (anxiolytic) and 10 mg of zolpidem (hypnotic), which I suppose will help a lot. If I take 2 zolpidem every 2 hours it makes me sleep terribly, it would be wonderful to be able to go to bed and not wake up. Edit: It seems like everything is compatible, even anafranil (clomipramine) in case I wanted to put it under my tongue to calm down quickly.

And maybe at the same time I would have to take the paracetamol and the antiemetic, I guess I won't take the antacid, they say that in the latest edition of the PPeH it is not recommended.

What is a problem is water, taking my normal pills, paracetamol and so on will make me drink about 300 ml approximately 2 hours before... And the truth is, 20 g in 50 ml of water seems like a very little water to me. I can't measure 50 ml in a normal glass at home... It's almost like a shot of water, I hesitate until all the SN dissolves... and yes, you can put a little more water if it doesn't dissolve but If I fast, my stomach will be crazy to process everything that comes into it, right? 10-20 cl, a normal glass could work. Overall, as soon as I take it around 4 a.m. I'll go straight to bed, in 8 hours my stomach should suck it even if I sleep and gastric activity is reduced... that's what I assume, I could be wrong of course.

 

[Onelegman]

I have a question, it's already getting hot here, and it's terrible!
I know I shouldn't eat anything at least 8 hours before the SN but I don't know if I can handle going 8 hours without drinking as well... let's say... 4 hours before stopping drinking would work?

And another thing, I've been taking omeprazole (a stomach protector) for years. I don't think anything will happen if I take it that day, right? It might even help with some stomach upset.

 

[justaladfromperth]

This post will be dedicated to compiling all the information we have on the Sodium Nitrite method (SN), including what else is needed and comparing it to other popular methods.

Before starting, I HIGHLY encourage you read most, if not all, of the chapters on the PPH, as this method may not be the most suited for you.

First of all, let's discuss why this method works, and how it kills.

Spoiler: The effects of Sodium Nitrite

Sodium Nitrite, NaNO2, acts as a catalyst in the conversion of the hemoglobin in your blood into methemoglobin (MetHB), a molecule with a much higher affinity with oxygen. This occurs when the ferrous ions in the regular hemoglobin are converted into ferric ones.
Since it's affinity is so high, methemoglobin cannot let the oxygen flow into other tissues that need it, thus depriving them of oxygen even while you're breathing. Death, then, occurs by hypoxia.
Sodium Nitrite poisoning symptoms include nausea, vertigo, vomiting, very heavy headaches and, should you manage to not pass out for too long, seizures.
The PPH claims that, during a monitored suicide with SN, the patient was unconscious at 12 minutes and dead by 35. However, some sources claim that SN poisoning might take as much as 8 hours to kill, probably due to low dosage.
Since methemoglobin creation is a natural process in our bodies, you must be aware that a certain enzyme works to transform it back into hemoglobin again. This is why the recommended dosage has varied on the PPH so much, as the syntetization of these enzymes and their "power" to overcome the formation of MetHB depends purely on your body, thus making a normal, general dose for all who chose this method very hard to determine, unlike N.

As for the physical symptoms your body will experience, not much will really change. Since your blood will mainly be MetHB, it will take on a bluish chocolate brown color, and the tips of your fingers, toes and nose (amongst others) will turn slightly blue from cyanosis.

Now, lets take a look at the "shopping cart".

Spoiler: What is needed for this method?

You'll need the following:

SN: The main compund for this method, Sodium Nitrite is easy enough to find. You're looking for >98% purity Nitrite. This chemical is sold without regulation and can be bought from Amazon, Ebay or any lab supplier in your area. 100 grams cost between 8 and 10€. This chemical is completely legal to own and is used during curation of meats to preserve their color. It's described as "White to yellowish powder/crystals" and it's said to have "slightly salty taste". It is also very soluble in water.
The recommended dose from the PPH is 15 grams, however, this has increased on different issues, from only 5, to 12 and now to 15.
Very important: You're looking for Sodium Nitrite, not Sodium Nitrate; NaNO2, not NaNO3.
Should you not find it just by looking up Sodium Nitrite, look for: NaNO2, NNaO2 or Filmerine. Make sure you're buying what you want and that it's purity is high enough. For more information on it plus some industrial sellers, check Sodium Nitrite on Pubchem.

Antiemetics: Strong enough antiemetics for this method are not OTC, so you'll need to see your way around this. You're looking for Metoclopramide or any of it's commercial names, like Reglan/Primperan. This antiemetic needs to be a Dopamine blocker for it to work.
Antiemetics aren't 100% necessary for this method, however; just like with N, you wont accomplish anything if you end up puking it all out, which is likely. This will also most likely be the bulk of the money you'll use during this method.

Acid Regulators: Another thing recommended in the PPH is raising your stomach's pH to make the SN more effective. This can be accomplished with drugs like Tagamet (The one recommended on the PPH, 800mg, which is to my knowledge OTC) or even bicarbonate, though not as effective.

Spoiler: A few extra comments

I recently got asked a few things regarding SN. First of all, you must know that the effects of this poisoning are completely reversible. It is very unlikely that you will have any permanent damage should you be "saved" during your attempt. Secondly, since this method relies on hypoxia, cardiovascular problems will reduce the amount of MetHB in blood needed to actually kill you. This, however, shouldnt really be a problem since it is sold starting from 100 grams, far more than the amount needed.

Lastly, there have been cases of people recovering from SN poisoning without any "side effects", but even if the ambulance is called soon enough, it is not certain that you will survive.

Should you have any question you can't find the answer of, please comment it and maybe you'll find someone on this community who knows.
Also, should you have any more information you'd like to share, please post it and tag me so I can edit this post and get it included. Thank you.

thank you so much for the great information, do you know where i can get information on the aquarium test strip purity test, managed to get nitrite but think it best to test before the biig day

 

[mutthalno1]

can it be mixed in steel/metal glass with steel spoon ? there's no mention of any issues with SN reaction with metals unlike SA,but i just want to be sure

 

[Onelegman]

can it be mixed in steel/metal glass with steel spoon ? there's no mention of any issues with SN reaction with metals unlike SA,but i just want to be sure

I don't think it will react with metal or plastic. It's true that I haven't read anything about the substance reacting with any material.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

can it be mixed in steel/metal glass with steel spoon ? there's no mention of any issues with SN reaction with metals unlike SA,but i just want to be sure

I don't think it will react with metal or plastic. It's true that I haven't read anything about the substance reacting with any material.

I would not use a metal/steel cup or spoon. There can be reactions as NaNO2 is oxidizing!

I would only use plastic or glass cup/spoon to dissolve it in water.

 

[Onelegman]

I would not use a metal/steel cup or spoon. There can be reactions as NaNO2 is oxidizing!

I would only use plastic or glass cup/spoon to dissolve it in water.

I was thinking of using a glass cup and a metal spoon (the most common in my country), so should I use a plastic one?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I was thinking of using a glass cup and a metal spoon (the most common in my country), so should I use a plastic one?

Yes, I would suggest a plastic spoon, just not metal. With this you're on the safe side that there is no unwanted chemical reaction before SN is consumed.

 

[Shimidori]

I am reading about the requirements, but I still have a small doubt in my mind.

I can get SN thanks to my parents' job (they work in the meat industry, so I can sneak some of it out without any worries), but the thing where I am facing questions is in regards to the Antiemetics. Metoclopramide is not one that I can get easily, but I live in a country where getting Domperidone is really easy, no need for recipe, so could I use the latter in a similar way as the former? Would I have to compensate or take any extra steps in regards to using a comparatively weaker antiemetic?

 

[Onelegman]

I am reading about the requirements, but I still have a small doubt in my mind.

I can get SN thanks to my parents' job (they work in the meat industry, so I can sneak some of it out without any worries), but the thing where I am facing questions is in regards to the Antiemetics. Metoclopramide is not one that I can get easily, but I live in a country where getting Domperidone is really easy, no need for recipe, so could I use the latter in a similar way as the former? Would I have to compensate or take any extra steps in regards to using a comparatively weaker antiemetic?

The problem with antiemetics is that the ones that require a prescription are for a good reason. I don't remember the technical name, but basically, metoclopramide contains a compound that prevents vomiting almost completely. While an no prescription AE does not have it. Any way to make up for the absence of that compound? I don't know, an AE is good for what it's good for, maybe with 3 different ones you won't get the effect of the meto but rather the opposite. And the worst thing is that you can't usually buy meto online and other places, nor is it something that a dealer provides.

I had a few pills and I read the leaflet, it is supposedly used for migraines in people who are going through chemo or radiotherapy. I went to the doctor and I told him the same thing as what the package insert said, migraine, explosive vomiting... he said I didn't need metho, but paracetamol... I had to change doctors, not because of this, but because the last time I went, It was to ask her to refer me to a BPD specialist because the suicidal ideations had returned with great intensity. Despite explaining that the social worker told us that she would do it without problems, she gave me the appointment for February 2025!!! My mother almost hit her, I did something better, I told her that it will be a shame if she doesn't suffer any type of reprimand when I km for not wanting to help me.

 

[Shimidori]

The problem with antiemetics is that the ones that require a prescription are for a good reason. I don't remember the technical name, but basically, metoclopramide contains a compound that prevents vomiting almost completely. While an no prescription AE does not have it. Any way to make up for the absence of that compound? I don't know, an AE is good for what it's good for, maybe with 3 different ones you won't get the effect of the meto but rather the opposite. And the worst thing is that you can't usually buy meto online and other places, nor is it something that a dealer provides.

I had a few pills and I read the leaflet, it is supposedly used for migraines in people who are going through chemo or radiotherapy. I went to the doctor and I told him the same thing as what the package insert said, migraine, explosive vomiting... he said I didn't need metho, but paracetamol... I had to change doctors, not because of this, but because the last time I went, It was to ask her to refer me to a BPD specialist because the suicidal ideations had returned with great intensity. Despite explaining that the social worker told us that she would do it without problems, she gave me the appointment for February 2025!!! My mother almost hit her, I did something better, I told her that it will be a shame if she doesn't suffer any type of reprimand when I km for not wanting to help me.

I mean, I kind of knew that meto would be the ideal, I was more wondering if Domperidone would be good enouh.

Most guides that I've read about AEs speak about how, while weaker than meto, it is still very much a viable option for preventing vomiting when doing SN, and seeing how I want to keep a low profile during the whole process and don't want to break bank getting meto, I have to work with what I have access to.

 

[Onelegman]

If you are really determined to do CTB, what does money matter if you can get what you need with it? If he helps you with the method, I would spare no expense. I know it sounds selfish, but it's better to do it right than think about money. It's my opinion, you don't have to listen to me at all.

 

[sukiduki]

do you guy think if i take SN and go into the pool or a hot tub after that it can look like an accidental drowning instead of SN for cause of death?