Discussion DDMAPH | 5-Drug Cocktail | Cost Breakdown & Accessability

[intr0verse]

I managed to buy enough N, should I add other medications to the protocol?

Just an antiemetic.

 

[purebliss]

I managed to buy enough N, should I add other medications to the protocol?

Do you actually have N? That is pretty damn insane 0_0

Well
Except meto you don't need anything from else then.
I am super jealous btw... :( wish I had that too

 

[TomTom]

Spoiler

So hey there everyone!

Because I was bored ;) I thought I research how much the 5 Drug Cocktail would cost and how difficult it is to obtain every required medicine.
It is ranked almost the same as Nembutal on the PPeH so it obviously came to my attention before already. But I abandoned that very quickly for it's riskiness, insanity and just straight up ridiculous price.

Here is a breakdown. This thread assumes you have read the PPeH.
I will refer to the latest March 2026 edition of the PPeH.

I will view this as a person from Europe. So I only selected Vendor that are from Europe. Things may be cheaper or more expensive in other areas.

Drug Name	Required for protocol	Where to source	Dosage per pill	Units you are forced to buy	Total Price
Digoxin	100 mg	The website stated in the PPeH	250 mcg	250mcg * 360 Pills 250mcg * 60 Pills	185$
Diazepam	1g	DrugHub	10 mg	10 Blisters each containing 15 pills	98 Euro ~114,89$
Morphine	15g	DrugHub	100 mg	120 Pills	430 Euro ~504,09$
Amitriptyline	8g	The website stated in the PPeH	25 mg	25mg × 360 Pills	226.62$
PHenobarbital	5g	DrugHub	100 mg	3 Blisters each containing 100mg x20 Pills	300 Euro ~351,69$
Metoclopramid	20mg	The website stated in the PPeH (easy to get in your country through a brick and mortar pharmacy as well. Lie to any online doctor about having a genetic history of puking. The PPeH outlines what exactly to say. Worked flawlessly for me in Germany via DocMorris)	10mg	1 Blister containing 60 pills	32.04$
Ondansetron	8mg	DrugHub (probably also rather easy to get the official way(?) No data on this)	8mg	8mg x 15	210 Euro (what the fuck) ~246,18$ (massively cheaper from India. But guaranteed to get seized)

So with all the drugs combined we are at 1660.51$.
Fantastic, right? Absolutely sane and rational.

Now that is just the money aspect.

Let's calculate time and risk into this.
Almost all of those drugs will give you a hell of a lot of trouble with your local law enforcement. Especially morphine in those quantities is guaranteed to bring you a fantastic date at your local court with a less than favorable outcome. And it will go through customs. That much I can guarantee. Because Phenobarbital can only be sourced from a vendor in greece or India. So if you do not happen to live there... good luck. Pheno alone would probably grant them a search warrant and then you are royally fucked ^^
Police is not your friend and never will be

Waiting for all of those things to arrive you are surely another 3-4 weeks farther as well.
It is absolutely ridiculous. It is more likely that you find a reputable Nembutal vendor in that time frame or just book a straight flight to Peru with any of the peruvian SaSu Members here

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Purity of the drugs should not be an issue, though. They are usually sold in their original blisters. So they should work.

So yeah all in all I would consider this quite the impossible method. Not a non-method, no, it will probably work. But the entire bullshit around it is that much more insane than with SN.

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You take this risk on your own!

Back to wage slaving you guys go ^^

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[Rogue_Gendarme]

So hey there everyone!

Because I was bored ;) I thought I research how much the 5 Drug Cocktail would cost and how difficult it is to obtain every required medicine.
It is ranked almost the same as Nembutal on the PPeH so it obviously came to my attention before already. But I abandoned that very quickly for it's riskiness, insanity and just straight up ridiculous price.

Here is a breakdown. This thread assumes you have read the PPeH.
I will refer to the latest March 2026 edition of the PPeH.

I will view this as a person from Europe. So I only selected Vendor that are from Europe. Things may be cheaper or more expensive in other areas.

Drug Name	Required for protocol	Where to source	Dosage per pill	Units you are forced to buy	Total Price
Digoxin	100 mg	The website stated in the PPeH	250 mcg	250mcg * 360 Pills 250mcg * 60 Pills	185$
Diazepam	1g	DrugHub	10 mg	10 Blisters each containing 15 pills	98 Euro ~114,89$
Morphine	15g	DrugHub	100 mg	120 Pills	430 Euro ~504,09$
Amitriptyline	8g	The website stated in the PPeH	25 mg	25mg × 360 Pills	226.62$
PHenobarbital	5g	DrugHub	100 mg	3 Blisters each containing 100mg x20 Pills	300 Euro ~351,69$
Metoclopramid	20mg	The website stated in the PPeH (easy to get in your country through a brick and mortar pharmacy as well. Lie to any online doctor about having a genetic history of puking. The PPeH outlines what exactly to say. Worked flawlessly for me in Germany via DocMorris)	10mg	1 Blister containing 60 pills	32.04$
Ondansetron	8mg	DrugHub (probably also rather easy to get the official way(?) No data on this)	8mg	8mg x 15	210 Euro (what the fuck) ~246,18$ (massively cheaper from India. But guaranteed to get seized)

So with all the drugs combined we are at 1660.51$.
Fantastic, right? Absolutely sane and rational.

Now that is just the money aspect.

Let's calculate time and risk into this.
Almost all of those drugs will give you a hell of a lot of trouble with your local law enforcement. Especially morphine in those quantities is guaranteed to bring you a fantastic date at your local court with a less than favorable outcome. And it will go through customs. That much I can guarantee. Because Phenobarbital can only be sourced from a vendor in greece or India. So if you do not happen to live there... good luck. Pheno alone would probably grant them a search warrant and then you are royally fucked ^^
Police is not your friend and never will be

Waiting for all of those things to arrive you are surely another 3-4 weeks farther as well.
It is absolutely ridiculous. It is more likely that you find a reputable Nembutal vendor in that time frame or just book a straight flight to Peru with any of the peruvian SaSu Members here

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Purity of the drugs should not be an issue, though. They are usually sold in their original blisters. So they should work.

So yeah all in all I would consider this quite the impossible method. Not a non-method, no, it will probably work. But the entire bullshit around it is that much more insane than with SN.

[Hidden content]
You take this risk on your own!

Back to wage slaving you guys go ^^

I figured I'd compute how much some of the stuff mentioned here is worth in my country. Amitriptyline 8gm is like 160 USD, Digoxin probably way more cheaper than that, because there are bulk suppliers here that sell fucktons of stuff for less than the branded price and even the generic price because it's always sale season, since no one actually wants to buy or needs that much. But, even then, I figured it's not fucking worth it sourcing the other drugs because the discount I get from the drugs mentioned there in here is gonna be fucking spent in getting the actually important drugs through customs limbo, and I don't have the time nor means nor patience nor sheer fucking will to buy from DH morphine or Phenobarb in that amount.

So, yes. SN is so much more practical than this bullshitly ridiculous expensive method. And that's why people flock en masse to SN. Occam's razor, and shit. It's the simplest, most easiest thing above all the other methods so that's where people go first. People are scared of surviving hanging, etc. Guns are a no go for anyone except the US (seriously, how the fuck do Americans have even shy of a civic society?) and other methods like Exit bag and CO have a fuckton of preparation needed and even if some of the items there were affordable, it's the sourcing of the sulphuric acid, the formic acid, or the proper stitching together of the exit bag that puts a hamper on the progress with said method.

Even if I were to buy a number of other drugs for my SN method (which, I am going to, btw, check out my SN protocol thread), it's much easier than all of that other shit. It's like 100 dollars for a single milligram of protonitazene/protonitazepine and about 70 bucks here for 2.5L sulphuric acid. In juxtaposition, SN method prep only cost me like 40 bucks tops. Anyway, just my 2 cents on that

 

[pax420]

Wow. I guess I'll just stick with my fent plug.

 

[skybox]

I have several bottles of ondansetron in my cabinet rn because both me and my mom get it prescribed lol

 

[purebliss]

Wow. I guess I'll just stick with my fent plug.

Yeppp fent overdose is just as peaceful to die on :>

Sadly super impossible to get in the EU. At least if you do not know a real life plug

I have several bottles of ondansetron in my cabinet rn because both me and my mom get it prescribed lol

Just lacking all the other drugs now
I think Ondansetron is one of the easier meds to get :')

I figured I'd compute how much some of the stuff mentioned here is worth in my country. Amitriptyline 8gm is like 160 USD, Digoxin probably way more cheaper than that, because there are bulk suppliers here that sell fucktons of stuff for less than the branded price and even the generic price because it's always sale season, since no one actually wants to buy or needs that much. But, even then, I figured it's not fucking worth it sourcing the other drugs because the discount I get from the drugs mentioned there in here is gonna be fucking spent in getting the actually important drugs through customs limbo, and I don't have the time nor means nor patience nor sheer fucking will to buy from DH morphine or Phenobarb in that amount.

So, yes. SN is so much more practical than this bullshitly ridiculous expensive method. And that's why people flock en masse to SN. Occam's razor, and shit. It's the simplest, most easiest thing above all the other methods so that's where people go first. People are scared of surviving hanging, etc. Guns are a no go for anyone except the US (seriously, how the fuck do Americans have even shy of a civic society?) and other methods like Exit bag and CO have a fuckton of preparation needed and even if some of the items there were affordable, it's the sourcing of the sulphuric acid, the formic acid, or the proper stitching together of the exit bag that puts a hamper on the progress with said method.

Even if I were to buy a number of other drugs for my SN method (which, I am going to, btw, check out my SN protocol thread), it's much easier than all of that other shit. It's like 100 dollars for a single milligram of protonitazene/protonitazepine and about 70 bucks here for 2.5L sulphuric acid. In juxtaposition, SN method prep only cost me like 40 bucks tops. Anyway, just my 2 cents on that

Yepppp... It is absolutely stupid that the stuff is that expensive.
I do get why Nitzsche mentioned the DDMAPH in his PPEH as it is in fact an alternative to Nembutal that is not straight up impossible to aquire. But it is impossible logistically speaking if your country is not one of those that give everything away OTC.

SN is sadly also with its own annoyances.
I am still thinking of pulling a Heath Ledger. I got all the meds for that here. (Waiting for the OxyCodone to arrive, tho)
I have no Opioid tolerance whatsoever and never took them before.
Did take 5 Flualprazolam before and slept for 18 Hours. So that stuff is highly potent as well.

This could be a very euphoric way to go.
I don't have anyone who would sell Fent to me, which sucks a lot, but oh well.
But yes. From all the Methods SN is probably one of the more doable and comparatively more peaceful ones

 

[pax420]

Yeppp fent overdose is just as peaceful to die on :>

Sadly super impossible to get in the EU. At least if you do not know a real life plug

Just lacking all the other drugs now
I think Ondansetron is one of the easier meds to get :')

Yepppp... It is absolutely stupid that the stuff is that expensive.
I do get why Nitzsche mentioned the DDMAPH in his PPEH as it is in fact an alternative to Nembutal that is not straight up impossible to aquire. But it is impossible logistically speaking if your country is not one of those that give everything away OTC.

SN is sadly also with its own annoyances.
I am still thinking of pulling a Heath Ledger. I got all the meds for that here. (Waiting for the OxyCodone to arrive, tho)
I have no Opioid tolerance whatsoever and never took them before.
Did take 5 Flualprazolam before and slept for 18 Hours. So that stuff is highly potent as well.

This could be a very euphoric way to go.
I don't have anyone who would sell Fent to me, which sucks a lot, but oh well.
But yes. From all the Methods SN is probably one of the more doable and comparatively more peaceful ones

Damn those prices are insane! I accidently od'ed on like 1/3 of a 20$ bag of fent. So I know it works and works good. It took 3 doses of narcan to bring me back. I was straight up dead for 5 minutes. I guess I take it for granted how easy drugs are to find in the US. And how hard in other countries. I hate it for them. If I could help everybody without going to prison for the rest of my life I would do it in a minute. But with my luck I'd get busted first time and they would bury me under the jail for being an idiot. Sn sounds easy and painless, but if probably puke and it wouldn't work. The charcoal to sounds easy but if mess that up too and probably burn myself and live. I hope you and everybody else find peace with whatever y'all do

 

[gardenhouse]

Will write a seperate thread about it :>
He basically had a VERY peaceful exit, very much comparable to Nembutal

He fell asleep and never woke up.
It is technically an OD. And OD's are never ever realiable
But in certain quantities things will most definitely work regardless.

I was thinking about it too, but he used drug though, so for people who never used narcotics. The chance of od of the drugs would be higher, but no reports about the dosage he took.

Damn those prices are insane! I accidently od'ed on like 1/3 of a 20$ bag of fent. So I know it works and works good. It took 3 doses of narcan to bring me back. I was straight up dead for 5 minutes. I guess I take it for granted how easy drugs are to find in the US. And how hard in other countries. I hate it for them. If I could help everybody without going to prison for the rest of my life I would do it in a minute. But with my luck I'd get busted first time and they would bury me under the jail for being an idiot. Sn sounds easy and painless, but if probably puke and it wouldn't work. The charcoal to sounds easy but if mess that up too and probably burn myself and live. I hope you and everybody else find peace with whatever y'all do

I live in nz, it's impossible to find here , what did you feel? Did you just blackout and fell asleep?

 

[purebliss]

I was thinking about it too, but he used drug though, so for people who never used narcotics. The chance of od of the drugs would be higher, but no reports about the dosage he took.

I live in nz, it's impossible to find here , what did you feel? Did you just blackout and fell asleep?

The dosage should be very small.

He did not try to CTB
he probably took it as prescibed which are always low doses
All the drugs are reasonably easy to get on DrugHub and DarkMatter as well. (Matter of fact I have em :P)
Sooooo that is most definitely something I might try

 

[gardenhouse]

The dosage should be very small.

He did not try to CTB
he probably took it as prescibed which are always low doses
All the drugs are reasonably easy to get on DrugHub and DarkMatter as well. (Matter of fact I have em :P)
Sooooo that is most definitely something I might try

I know he didn't, he had insomnia, terrible insomnia same as me .

You have all these oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine ?

I assume you live in the states? I live in nz, small population, small drug supplier, i'm just afraid of buying it from drughub or dadkmatter to cross the border force, our border control is as strict as US.

 

[purebliss]

I know he didn't, he had insomnia, terrible insomnia same as me .

You have all these oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine ?

I assume you live in the states? I live in nz, small population, small drug supplier, i'm just afraid of buying it from drughub or dadkmatter to cross the border force, our border control is as strict as US.

Nop. Germany!

Almost all of them. I could not get my hands on Hydrocodone. Looks like Vicodin is a very American thing.
I replaced it with 10x200mg of Morphine.
And instead of Temazepam I use Zolpidem.
The rest I have ^^

But yeah. New Zealand is sadly very hard to get anything into.
And border inspections are guaranteed...
I am so sorry

 

[gardenhouse]

Nop. Germany!

Almost all of them. I could not get my hands on Hydrocodone. Looks like Vicodin is a very American thing.
I replaced it with 10x200mg of Morphine.
And instead of Temazepam I use Zolpidem.
The rest I have ^^

But yeah. New Zealand is sadly very hard to get anything into.
And border inspections are guaranteed...
I am so sorry

Did you get them from other countries in the EU, or all from Germany? That's the beauty of the freedom of movement ayy. Could i pm you please?

I could find morphine, alprazolam (xanax), zopiclone, zolpidem, lorazepam, locally easily i can't find oxycodone, diazepam, doxylamine.

I suppose morphine is more lethal than hydrocodone. (vicodin).

What leads you to wanna cbt? If you don't mind sharing

 

[purebliss]

Did you get them from other countries in the EU, or all from Germany? That's the beauty of the freedom of movement ayy. Could i pm you please?

I could find morphine, alprazolam (xanax), zopiclone, zolpidem, lorazepam, locally easily i can't find oxycodone, diazepam, doxylamine.

I suppose morphine is more lethal than hydrocodone. (vicodin).

What leads you to wanna cbt? If you don't mind sharing

All from Germany. Germany has a surprisingly high number of supply ^^
And ofc you can!

Oxycodone is def preferable to have. one of the more potent opiods known to man.
Doxylamine is OTC medicine :D You can just get that. For diazepam... Search for Valium

From what I saw not quite. But its definitely interchangeable

Well. I have written my entire Life story down as my first post ^^
If you are interested in that

TLDR: Clinical Depression + constant sadness for 13 years + ADHD + Borderline+ Bipolar

Makes one hell of a mix.
Being me is unbearable

 

[youpi]

Group buy morphine or fent or nitazenes ?

 

[gardenhouse]

All from Germany. Germany has a surprisingly high number of supply ^^
And ofc you can!

Oxycodone is def preferable to have. one of the more potent opiods known to man.
Doxylamine is OTC medicine :D You can just get that. For diazepam... Search for Valium

From what I saw not quite. But its definitely interchangeable

Well. I have written my entire Life story down as my first post ^^
If you are interested in that

TLDR: Clinical Depression + constant sadness for 13 years + ADHD + Borderline+ Bipolar

Makes one hell of a mix.
Being me is unbearable

Group buy morphine or fent or nitazenes ?

GOOD IDEA!! LET'S DO IT

 

[purebliss]

Group buy morphine or fent or nitazenes ?

To where lmao. Good luck getting fent anywhere but the fent capital of the world: USA :'>

You are not getting fent or nitazenes easily.

And morphine... Well ODing on that alone is highly unreliable :')

 

[youpi]

To where lmao. Good luck getting fent anywhere but the fent capital of the world: USA :'>

You are not getting fent or nitazenes easily.

And morphine... Well ODing on that alone is highly unreliable :')

LOL.
Zenes are all over USA also Fent.
I'm from EU tho. Morphine + benzo + alcohol come on dude.

I give me a few weeks to find zenes in china and i'll be going to africa or mexico for vet meds

Maybe you could give a little help by saying where you got your morphine

 

[paranoid]

would the protocol work without morphine ?

 

[Serena fuga]

Do you actually have N? That is pretty damn insane 0_0

Well
Except meto you don't need anything from else then.
I am super jealous btw... :( wish I had that too

It was crazy, let's just say it was a struggle to get it... first I had to pay for a prescription from a veterinarian (which I didn't even use in the end, I even sent it via WhatsApp, but they didn't ask for it), then research suppliers in South America... with the country chosen, preparations for the trip (last month), I went and returned from my country in 3 days... I bought it at a veterinary clinic, went by plane, on the way back I put the N in empty 100ml shampoo bottles, and went through customs with my heart racing and everything went well!! ... now I'm preparing with some necessary arrangements, my will, and in June I should pass away... but I'm afraid it won't work again... I've tried about 6 times in my life, I didn't have much knowledge (things that helped me a lot here), I ended up vomiting or someone finding me... I'm a coward in a way, I'm afraid of jumping from a height, hanging myself, shooting myself and things like that... but I think now I'll find my peace and so be it!!

Resolvi calcular quanto custam algumas das coisas mencionadas aqui no meu país. Amitriptilina 8g custa uns 160 dólares, digoxina provavelmente é bem mais barata, porque tem fornecedores atacadistas aqui que vendem um monte de coisa por menos do que o preço da marca e até do genérico, porque é sempre época de promoção, já que ninguém quer comprar ou precisa de tudo isso. Mas, mesmo assim, concluí que não vale a pena procurar os outros remédios, porque o desconto que eu consigo com os remédios mencionados aqui vai ser gasto para passar os remédios realmente importantes pela alfândega, e eu não tenho tempo, dinheiro, paciência nem a mínima vontade de comprar morfina ou fenobarbital nessa quantidade do DH.

Sim, é muito mais prático do que esse método absurdamente caro. E é por isso que as pessoas recorrem em massa ao enforcamento. É a navalha de Occam, e tudo mais. É o método mais simples e fácil de todos, então é para ele que as pessoas vão primeiro. As pessoas têm medo de sobreviver ao enforcamento, etc. Armas de fogo são proibidas para todos, exceto nos EUA (sério, como é que os americanos sequer têm uma sociedade civilizada?). Outros métodos, como o saco de saída e o monóxido de carbono, exigem uma preparação enorme e, mesmo que alguns dos itens fossem acessíveis, é a dificuldade em encontrar o ácido sulfúrico, o ácido fórmico ou costurar corretamente o saco de saída que atrapalha o progresso com esses métodos.

Mesmo que eu comprasse vários outros medicamentos para o meu método SN (o que, aliás, pretendo fazer; confira meu tópico sobre o protocolo SN), ainda seria muito mais fácil do que todo aquele resto. Custa cerca de 100 dólares por um miligrama de protonitazeno/protonitazepina e uns 70 dólares por 2,5 litros de ácido sulfúrico. Em comparação, o preparo para o método SN me custou no máximo uns 40 dólares. Enfim, só

Yeppp fent overdose is just as peaceful to die on :>

Sadly super impossible to get in the EU. At least if you do not know a real life plug

Just lacking all the other drugs now
I think Ondansetron is one of the easier meds to get :')

Yepppp... It is absolutely stupid that the stuff is that expensive.
I do get why Nitzsche mentioned the DDMAPH in his PPEH as it is in fact an alternative to Nembutal that is not straight up impossible to aquire. But it is impossible logistically speaking if your country is not one of those that give everything away OTC.

SN is sadly also with its own annoyances.
I am still thinking of pulling a Heath Ledger. I got all the meds for that here. (Waiting for the OxyCodone to arrive, tho)
I have no Opioid tolerance whatsoever and never took them before.
Did take 5 Flualprazolam before and slept for 18 Hours. So that stuff is highly potent as well.

This could be a very euphoric way to go.
I don't have anyone who would sell Fent to me, which sucks a lot, but oh well.
But yes. From all the Methods SN is probably one of the more doable and comparatively more peaceful ones

I bought four 50ml bottles of N at a clinic I found in South America. Each 50ml bottle was around 69 soles (Nuevo Sol), which, converted to my country's currency, would be about US$22. However, to entice the seller and speed up the sale and delivery to the hotel, I offered around US$160, and he came quickly!! I spent another US$850 on airfare, taxi, hotel, and food... CTB is expensive, but this endless suffering is even more expensive!! 1

 

[purebliss]

I'm

It was crazy, let's just say it was a struggle to get it... first I had to pay for a prescription from a veterinarian (which I didn't even use in the end, I even sent it via WhatsApp, but they didn't ask for it), then research suppliers in South America... with the country chosen, preparations for the trip (last month), I went and returned from my country in 3 days... I bought it at a veterinary clinic, went by plane, on the way back I put the N in empty 100ml shampoo bottles, and went through customs with my heart racing and everything went well!! ... now I'm preparing with some necessary arrangements, my will, and in June I should pass away... but I'm afraid it won't work again... I've tried about 6 times in my life, I didn't have much knowledge (things that helped me a lot here), I ended up vomiting or someone finding me... I'm a coward in a way, I'm afraid of jumping from a height, hanging myself, shooting myself and things like that... but I think now I'll find my peace and so be it!!


I bought four 50ml bottles of N at a clinic I found in South America. Each 50ml bottle was around 69 soles (Nuevo Sol), which, converted to my country's currency, would be about US$22. However, to entice the seller and speed up the sale and delivery to the hotel, I offered around US$160, and he came quickly!! I spent another US$850 on airfare, taxi, hotel, and food... CTB is expensive, but this endless suffering is even more expensive!! 1

Yeah I doubt that I can pull that off tbh :')


From Europe to Peru would be pretty much impossible. They are extremely strict with searching your stuff and border control when you come back to the EU
I will 100% be caught and then there is a whole lot of trouble waiting for me.
But if you already live in South America then you kind of won in that regard :')
Man I would pay a lot just to get 2 bottles of N

would the protocol work without morphine ?

Probably
But be prepared for a lot of pain then.
The morphine is basically to suppress the nasty effects of some of the drugs
I would not cheap out on that considering how easy it is to get it

 

[Talvikki]

would the protocol work without morphine ?

Yes, if the cardiac switch drugs are sourced (digoxin and amitriptyline) you will die. An alternative mix could be made by increasing the sedatives (diazepam and phenobarbital) in the absence of morphine, as some prescribers in Washington (United States) do. They started increasing the dose of diazepam from 1 to 2 grams, and phenobarbital from 5 to 10, for select high-risk patients (especially those with opiate/benzodiazepine tolerance).

 

[gardenhouse]

All from Germany. Germany has a surprisingly high number of supply ^^
And ofc you can!

Oxycodone is def preferable to have. one of the more potent opiods known to man.
Doxylamine is OTC medicine :D You can just get that. For diazepam... Search for Valium

From what I saw not quite. But its definitely interchangeable

Well. I have written my entire Life story down as my first post ^^
If you are interested in that

TLDR: Clinical Depression + constant sadness for 13 years + ADHD + Borderline+ Bipolar

Makes one hell of a mix.
Being me is unbearable

Hi hi,

I've just done a big search on NZ local dw market, I need your advice please.

I've found : )

Hydrocodone can't find this one but found = 10MG Morphe Sevredol (I've never taken morph)

diazepam/valium = found it

alprazolam = 3MG xanax = found it

doxylamine succinate : NOT AVAILABLE IN NZ OTC, great isn't it : ) I hate this country, but I just need to talk to pharmacist, not a gp, i can lie about it easily.

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I can't find
Oxycodone and I don't know what I can replace it with, any idea?

I can't find temazepam/zolpidem
But I found Diazepam 2mg, Bromazolam 1mg, any advice if this ? thanks


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I have benzo tolerance I've been using it to get some sleep because I have chronic severe insomnia because of my tinnitus, it's the reason i wanna ctb, but i think i need to clear the benzo for 3 weeks first once I've found all of the above.

20 pills of each type should be lethal enough, shouldn't it?

thanks

 

[wannabeangel]

i wish wanting to end things peacefully didnt have to be both illegal and expensive...

 

[gardenhouse]

All from Germany. Germany has a surprisingly high number of supply ^^
And ofc you can!

Oxycodone is def preferable to have. one of the more potent opiods known to man.
Doxylamine is OTC medicine :D You can just get that. For diazepam... Search for Valium

From what I saw not quite. But its definitely interchangeable

Well. I have written my entire Life story down as my first post ^^
If you are interested in that

TLDR: Clinical Depression + constant sadness for 13 years + ADHD + Borderline+ Bipolar

Makes one hell of a mix.
Being me is unbearable

Hi hi,

I found oxycodone locally : ) I can't believe it, that thing is expensive ayy, 20mg oxycodone 5 pills = US$120

I haven't found temazepam, but I have found bromazolam, according to google it's more powerful than temazepam. Stronger than the most powerful benzo clonazepam.

I'm just still thinking about the required dose for each, I wish there would be some information about that

 

[Serena fuga]

i wish wanting to end things peacefully didnt have to be both illegal and expensive...

The dream of many here on the Forum!! :(

 

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So hey there everyone!

Because I was bored ;) I thought I research how much the 5 Drug Cocktail would cost and how difficult it is to obtain every required medicine.
It is ranked almost the same as Nembutal on the PPeH so it obviously came to my attention before already. But I abandoned that very quickly for it's riskiness, insanity and just straight up ridiculous price.

Here is a breakdown. This thread assumes you have read the PPeH.
I will refer to the latest March 2026 edition of the PPeH.

I will view this as a person from Europe. So I only selected Vendor that are from Europe. Things may be cheaper or more expensive in other areas.

Drug Name	Required for protocol	Where to source	Dosage per pill	Units you are forced to buy	Total Price
Digoxin	100 mg	The website stated in the PPeH	250 mcg	250mcg * 360 Pills 250mcg * 60 Pills	185$
Diazepam	1g	DrugHub	10 mg	10 Blisters each containing 15 pills	98 Euro ~114,89$
Morphine	15g	DrugHub	100 mg	120 Pills	430 Euro ~504,09$
Amitriptyline	8g	The website stated in the PPeH	25 mg	25mg × 360 Pills	226.62$
PHenobarbital	5g	DrugHub	100 mg	3 Blisters each containing 100mg x20 Pills	300 Euro ~351,69$
Metoclopramid	20mg	The website stated in the PPeH (easy to get in your country through a brick and mortar pharmacy as well. Lie to any online doctor about having a genetic history of puking. The PPeH outlines what exactly to say. Worked flawlessly for me in Germany via DocMorris)	10mg	1 Blister containing 60 pills	32.04$
Ondansetron	8mg	DrugHub (probably also rather easy to get the official way(?) No data on this)	8mg	8mg x 15	210 Euro (what the fuck) ~246,18$ (massively cheaper from India. But guaranteed to get seized)

So with all the drugs combined we are at 1660.51$.
Fantastic, right? Absolutely sane and rational.

Now that is just the money aspect.

Let's calculate time and risk into this.
Almost all of those drugs will give you a hell of a lot of trouble with your local law enforcement. Especially morphine in those quantities is guaranteed to bring you a fantastic date at your local court with a less than favorable outcome. And it will go through customs. That much I can guarantee. Because Phenobarbital can only be sourced from a vendor in greece or India. So if you do not happen to live there... good luck. Pheno alone would probably grant them a search warrant and then you are royally fucked ^^
Police is not your friend and never will be

Waiting for all of those things to arrive you are surely another 3-4 weeks farther as well.
It is absolutely ridiculous. It is more likely that you find a reputable Nembutal vendor in that time frame or just book a straight flight to Peru with any of the peruvian SaSu Members here

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Purity of the drugs should not be an issue, though. They are usually sold in their original blisters. So they should work.

So yeah all in all I would consider this quite the impossible method. Not a non-method, no, it will probably work. But the entire bullshit around it is that much more insane than with SN.

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You take this risk on your own!

Back to wage slaving you guys go ^^

But did you actually order and receive or just showing what it would cost? I'm in US ,don't know what cost would be but also how many pills? Do you crush them and take with water? Do you know if this has worked for many? I'm very sick, I'm suffering in excruciating pain nonstop I wish someone could help me find a definite way asap but I don't think I will even be able to swallow anything soon. It's difficult. How can someone take all this? I wish I had a picture of all this. I think fent might be a good way but I'm bedridden. Oh, I'm suffering so much just holding phone and typing. My fingers and hands hurt so bad it feels like I've been burned on my finger tips, wrist hurts, my tongue and mouth hurts so much it's like a chemical is burning Please let me end this horrific pain.

 

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But did you actually order and receive or just showing what it would cost? I'm in US ,don't know what cost would be but also how many pills? Do you crush them and take with water? Do you know if this has worked for many? I'm very sick, I'm suffering in excruciating pain nonstop I wish someone could help me find a definite way asap but I don't think I will even be able to swallow anything soon. It's difficult. How can someone take all this? I wish I had a picture of all this. I think fent might be a good way but I'm bedridden. Oh, I'm suffering so much just holding phone and typing. My fingers and hands hurt so bad it feels like I've been burned on my finger tips, wrist hurts, my tongue and mouth hurts so much it's like a chemical is burning Please let me end this horrific pain.

Nopeeee
This was only to outline how ridiculous and expensive this entire method is :(
People in the US, EU and Australia basically have no chance of ever getting those drugs

Maybe possible in south america. But no way to get it here regrettably.
I am sorry you have to suffer so much
I am sadly in the EU :(

 

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Nopeeee
This was only to outline how ridiculous and expensive this entire method is :(
People in the US, EU and Australia basically have no chance of ever getting those drugs

Maybe possible in south america. But no way to get it here regrettably.
I am sorry you have to suffer so much
I am sadly in the EU :(

I don't even know why it's in the PPeH. I wish Nitschke or someone making so much money off it and Exit would help some of us who are suffering physically and mentally so brutally. I used to think they wanted to help but he makes a fortune off of his organization, speechs,workshops, donations, membership, forums and he doesn't help or talk to anyone without getting paid same for his partner Fiona! Thanks for answering and being so nice! I'm just in so much pain I'm desperate, the agony never stops. I would give my organs or let them test end of life meds on me to end the pain. I hope you are okay. Oh, you are in Germany? I loved it when I visited once. It was actually the last trip I pushed myself to do for 2 weeks when I was doing okay. Glad I did it. How I wish I could have an hour without torture now
I'm so glad I was able to appreciate things once.

 

[knowledgeseeking]

Just watch a YouTube video on PGP keys. It's a simple thing but would be hard to type out.