Would you ever try to stop someone from CTB?

[FlyAwayHoney]

Let me hear your reasoning!

 

[WonderingSoul]

Most likely not. Unless I have something that could truly help them, I just let them be. I do feel sorry that life led down that path, but at least their suffering would hopefully end.

 

[tiger b]

Respect dictates not to.

 

[FlyAwayHoney]

I think there could be situations where I would advise someone to reconsider their decisions. Like if it was very impulse based, or something along those lines.

It's harder when you put it into the perspective of the person being someone close to you. A friend, or family.

Ultimately… I wish for respect in my decisions, and so I give it to others.

 

[loopdaloop]

only if they asked to or it seems to be impulsive. if the person is serious and calm i try to refrain from giving any unsolicited advice

 

[FlyAwayHoney]

only if they asked to or it seems to be impulsive. if the person is serious and calm i try to refrain from giving any unsolicited advice

Offtopic, but your profile picture is great. Makes me chuckle

 

[ADeadBunny]

For me it depends.

Is it a close friend? I'll try to save them. Why? Because I die first; I don't want to live without their company.

Is it a stranger? I'll help with their plan. Why? Because I think everyone deserves a peaceful exit.

I understand that I am selfish and because of that I am a hypocrite. This does not change my stance. If my friends are suicidal I hope they see what I'll have done and take notes.

Life without what few people I have would be so much worse than the hell I live now. I just need a little more time anyway and I'm out of here though so, whatever.

 

[Forever Sleep]

If I saw someone about to commit suicide- say jumping- I might ask if they wanted to talk. Just to let them know that someone actually cares one way or the other. I guess I just think it's so sad when people are entirely alone. That said- it wouldn't be right for me to try and talk them out of it. I guess that's still intrusive though and hypocritical. I'm not sure I'd like someone trying to interfere with my attempt.

Plus- realistically, what support can I really give? What support can any of these people give? Maybe it was through care and compassion that they tried to interfere but- realistically- they're not going to be there for that person there on out. More than likely- they'll just get carted off to a psyche ward. It's impossible to know that person's circumstances too. Maybe they weren't alone in life. Maybe they did have people they knew cared about them- and that still wasn't enough.

It's so difficult to know what we'd do unless the situation arose. I suppose- I don't believe in forcing a person out of it but I also think it's so sad when people don't seem to care at all. That just typifies partly why people want out in the first place- the world is so uncaring.

 

[NeedAnEscape]

I would stop somebody from committing suicide if it was extremely impulsive.

 

[Quill]

if it was anyone I know/knew probably but if not I probably don't know much about you but I would leave them with a few words.

 

[Manfrotto99]

Maybe, as I think some people possibly believe they want out.... but they really want out of their miserable existence and suffering, rather than out of this world altogether. I've seen people's lives change completely out of the blue, a stoke of good luck and there gone on to live genuinely happy lives. But you have to have certain things going to your advantage to increase your chances of luck and change in fortune, otherwise it's like myself and only wishful thinking and prolonged suffering, with no chnage ever. It's difficult to know.

 

[username8888]

No I wouldn't if it's hundred percent painless.

 

[Unsure and Useless]

If that's their choice, then so be it. I'm there to provide support, not dictate what they can and can't do.

Although, I will discourage them from CTB if they're emotionally wound up. If they do choose to CTB, I'd be more at peace if I knew that they went decided to do this with a clear mind instead of being fueled on emotions from being in the moment.

Otherwise, most of the time, I'd let them exert their own free will to CTB.

 

[_Minsk]

no, except their method is doomed to fail or they throw away a good live impulsively

 

[Yaffle]

We should think this through in reverse.

Suppose any one of us had felt suicidal for years, spent months researching their method and acquiring everything they need. Delayed and aborted a couple of attempts then as the very moment we're about to CTB someone comes along and stops us.

It's a difficult one because equally if I saw someone about to jump my instinct would be to talk them back despite probably wanting to jump with them.


I do 100% agree with @_Minsk that if someone was about to do something doomed to failure I'd try and reason them out of it. That's the humane thing to do.

 

[FuneralCry]

No, it disgusts me the thought of people trying to force suicidal people to suffer. I cannot stand pro-lifers, they just cause so much harm.
Wanting to permanently escape from all future suffering is all that feels rational to me so if one wants to take control over their inevitable fate then that's very much a valid way to feel.
Existence itself is the true problem and all those who want to free themselves from this burden that was imposed on them should be able to, and it's not other people's decision to make.

I don't understand what's supposedly so "good" about existing in the first place to make people wish to enslave others in this existence. Existence is so harmful but also so futile, we are just waiting around to die anyway in this meaningless existence where there is no limit as to how much one can suffer. I'd always see it as preferable to not exist and I want nothing to do with delusional pro-lifers.

 

[Neogoloid]

No, that would contradict my beliefs. If it was someone close to me I'd just do it with them rather then try to save them.

 

[not_telling]

I would definitely want to help them find some sort of purpose in being alive, but if that's what they really want then I'll respect it and just keep them company I guess, if they'll have me.

 

[Rhizomorph1]

Let me hear your reasoning!

I would never try to stop someone. Not only because it is always their imperative, but also I could put my own life at risk depending on their method.

I would certainly try to reason with certain people in certain contexts though. Or at least try to ensure the decision has been appropriately deliberated.

I think anyone who understands the seriousness of death as the final exit, including people who themselves wish to ctb, should engage in some healthy and moderate amount of deliberation with people. Those who are truly motivated will be uninfluenced by this deliberation, but it is important for those who may be making the decision hastily.

If one demonstrates they have deliberated and still have intent, I will concede 100% of the time, and transition the language to "is there any way I can help you feel more comfortable/at peace during the process?" "how can I support your psychospiritual preparation for dying?"

This is what person-centered and harm reductive communication looks like to me

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I wouldn't, not even if they seemed "impulsive"

 

[Praestat_Mori]

No. I might ask if they wanted to talk but I would never try to stop someone.

 

[Golden]

In general no because I believe in the right to die. But if for example a parent of young children would attempt an extremely impulsive suicide which would therefore cause extreme unnecessary suffering, I would try to stop

 

[アホペンギン]

Stopping someone is a violation of their autonomy. A viable argument against this, though, would be whether or not the person in question who is being stopped is acting impulsively but even then my actions would only correlate with the current situation that the person attempting is in. Everyone deserves the right to die and keeping them alive would only result in further and unwanted suffering.

 

[e4shin]

im too selfish to not want to stop them. i don't want to suffer alone, but I guess I cant stop it.

 

[Jinxyxx]

Im sure that this will sound selfish and hypocritical to most people on here but i most definitely would. I would be against anyone close to me comiting suicide. Maybe its selfish but idc. Losing someone to suicide hurts unbearably, i would not be able to just let it happen.

 

[february in alaska]

An internet friend attempted to CTB a few years ago and they were posting during the whole thing. I was pissed off, crying, a total mess, begging them not to. One of their other irl friends told their parents, they got an ambulance, they were saved. At the time I was in recovery and had no plans to CTB, and I don't think I would have the same reaction if it happened today. Which I feel guilty about? It's such a messy moral area in my head.

Now that I have a plan to CTB, it's like we'd be going together. When I was in recovery, there was definitely a selfish underlying motive of "if I have to keep living and suffer through this, so do you"

 

[penguinl0v3s]

Not if they have to go to the psych ward.

 

[blackwidow]

Yes.. I would

 

[Smelly_ballz]

I stopped my lover from ctb-ing and now they are very happy and have been in recovery for a few years. I think that was a good decision. I think. I am probably going to CTB soon, and this will make them spiral and I don't know if they can recover from that. I know it is selfish to go thru with it knowing the consequences, but I cannot bare living anymore. Life hurts so fucking much and I want it to end. I wouldn't be upset if the follow me after I'm gone.

 

[halfwaydown2]

I'm very hesitant here, but perhaps if it's a child?