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Kikoo Loool

Kikoo Loool

Enlightened
Feb 25, 2019
1,128
Most of the people shooting themselves aren't doing it right. Putting a low caliber gun under your chin, in your mouth, or to your temple is just asking for trouble.
So, what's the good way to shoot oneself?
 
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Welcumtotherealworld

Student
Feb 12, 2019
126
Here's an interesting article. This is a very old article btw from 1878, so we understand death from hanging more in a medical sense currently than they did back then. Nevertheless, this article contains valuable experiences of people hanging themselves.

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Po..._13/July_1878/The_Question_of_Pain_in_Hanging
This is actually a very reliable paper and the closest we can come to a proper guide on how to hang yourself. Thank God people were more aware of the hellhole they were living in back then lol.
 
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21Neberg

21Neberg

Enlightened
Dec 17, 2018
1,624
I am down to 2 possible methods...a shotgun to the head, or decapitation using a car and a hanging rope.. But I'm afraid of messing those up too, and ending up in worse shape than I am in now... I'm basically afraid of everything, which is the source of all of my problems... I really want to die so bad, but I'm afraid I'll never be able to get the job done right.

That's a decision easily made! In my opinion, you should go for the shotgun method. It's the method with the highest success rate according to lostallhope: http://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods/statistics-most-lethal-methods
For any further information you could look into the guns megathread: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/guns-firearms-megathread.9042/
 
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spicyfriedtofu

Idiot
Jun 10, 2018
68
Saying hanging has a lethality rate of 89.5 % is very strange to me. This number can only be derived from a set of attempts, counting the amount of attempts that lead to death. It goes without saying that some attempts would be less "sophisticated" than others. In my mind, hanging is pretty much a foolproof method provided the ligature and fixation point are strong enough and that no one will find you during the following 30 minutes or hour. A shooting is much more difficult to get right and if you don't you will hurt yourself considerably and fail because of that. The same is true for cyanide or any other lethal substance. Jumping is similar to hanging. With both methods you can easily 'over-dimension' it as to make it near fool-proof.

And as already noted, an active heartbeat doesn't necessarily mean there is pain. From the same (to me, very credible) web page: "Consciousness can be lost in as little as 8-10 seconds or persist for as much as a minute."
 
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Roadkill

Experienced
Dec 25, 2018
247
Saying hanging has a lethality rate of 89.5 % is very strange to me. This number can only be derived from a set of attempts, counting the amount of attempts that lead to death. It goes without saying that some attempts would be less "sophisticated" than others. In my mind, hanging is pretty much a foolproof method provided the ligature and fixation point are strong enough and that no one will find you during the following 30 minutes or hour. A shooting is much more difficult to get right and if you don't you will hurt yourself considerably and fail because of that. The same is true for cyanide or any other lethal substance. Jumping is similar to hanging. With both methods you can easily 'over-dimension' it as to make it near fool-proof.

And as already noted, an active heartbeat doesn't necessarily mean there is pain. From the same (to me, very credible) web page: "Consciousness can be lost in as little as 8-10 seconds or persist for as much as a minute."
the key is that no one finds you... if they do find you and cut you down, survival is likely(as well as massive brain damage)
 
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Dead_Inside

Dead_Inside

Wizard
Jul 2, 2018
622
Sorry to be so blunt but I skimmed through your history and I don't think I saw it considered as an option. So just thought to put it out there.
I don't think people usually post everything they have considered doing. But who knows? Maybe they just consider it recently.
 
Dead_Inside

Dead_Inside

Wizard
Jul 2, 2018
622
yes, I would like to know this also
Correctly. Lol ....
honestly I often think it would be far more effective to piss someone off to the point of doing it for you (murder).... might be way more scary but I bet they make sure you are dead.
 
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Welcumtotherealworld

Student
Feb 12, 2019
126
Correctly. Lol ....
honestly I often think it would be far more effective to piss someone off to the point of doing it for you (murder).... might be way more scary but I bet they make sure you are dead.
Someone willing to watch you hang and make sure you're dead after an hour would be enough.
 
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interim

Member
Feb 25, 2019
38
Their hearts continued to beat for many minutes(over 12) after they were hanged

Sorry to be rude, but the heart doesn't really matter :)... It's just a pump. The important thing in life is the brain. Without the brain, there is no way to "feel" anything. Hanging is one of the most efficient and tidy methods, used a lot in the past. Yes, it's not as convenient as taking a drug. But while we live in such barbarous society that will prevent you to use such drugs with 100% proven origin and efficiency, there are always some risks and nastiness. Must decide for yourself.
 
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Welcumtotherealworld

Student
Feb 12, 2019
126
Sorry to be rude, but the heart doesn't really matter :)... It's just a pump. The important thing in life is the brain. Without the brain, there is no way to "feel" anything. Hanging is one of the most efficient and tidy methods, used a lot in the past. Yes, it's not as convenient as taking a drug. But while we live in such barbarous society that will prevent you to use such drugs with 100% proven origin and efficiency, there are always some risks and nastiness. Must decide for yourself.
How is full suspension in a secluded spot risky? That's a guaranteed death for sure right?
 
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Dead_Inside

Dead_Inside

Wizard
Jul 2, 2018
622
While the brain is a wonderous thing. It is wholly reliant on the blood pumping from the heart- while the heart is not whole reliant on the brain to do its job. Myocardial tissue is capable of electrical activity on its own. Your heart can be regulated by your brain, but isn't reliant on your brain to contract. So if you want to know how you can be "alive" and brain dead - well it's because the heart is *super* important. Your lack of breathing is what is going to kill your heart while you are hanging.
 
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Welcumtotherealworld

Student
Feb 12, 2019
126
While the brain is a wonderous thing. It is wholly reliant on the blood pumping from the heart- while the heart is not whole reliant on the brain to do its job. Myocardial tissue is capable of electrical activity on its own. Your heart can be regulated by your brain, but isn't reliant on your brain to contract. So if you want to know how you can be "alive" and brain dead - well it's because the heart is super important. Your lack of breathing is what is going to kill your heart while you are hanging.
So you could fail full suspension if you twist in an incorrect position during death spasms?
 
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Quinlor

Quinlor

The stranger
Feb 21, 2019
1,058
My pain is in my heart no in brain so... if I had a gun, I would like to shoot in my heart no in the face.
 
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Dead_Inside

Dead_Inside

Wizard
Jul 2, 2018
622
So you could fail full suspension if you twist in an incorrect position during death spasms?
It's probably why some of us fail to pass out at all- but I would suspect that if you are passing out, you are cutting off enough blood supply to the brain to cause serious damage even if it takes a minute (or 30). Once the brain stops giving clear signals to breath your lungs you will asphyxiate . And then the heart which (as was shown on the images) had continued to beat will stop. It requires oxygen to continue doing its job- so without that it is going to die.
Seems that front lobe damage happens quite a bit ahead of this - just based on survivor conditions.... so you are gone long before your body dies.
 
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Welcumtotherealworld

Student
Feb 12, 2019
126
It's probably why some of us fail to pass out at all- but I would suspect that if you are passing out, you are cutting off enough blood supply to the brain to cause serious damage even if it takes a minute (or 30). Once the brain stops giving clear signals to breath your lungs you will asphyxiate . And then the heart which (as was shown on the images) had continued to beat will stop. It requires oxygen to continue doing its job- so without that it is going to die.
Seems that front lobe damage happens quite a bit ahead of this - just based on survivor conditions.... so you are gone long before your body dies.
Have you tested out all the different positions with partial? It took me a long while before I found success, it can be seen in my post history.
 
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Dead_Inside

Wizard
Jul 2, 2018
622
Have you tested out all the different positions with partial? It took me a long while before I found success, it can be seen in my post history.
No....I got super discouraged when I was trying. I was sitting there trying to figure out if it wasn't tight enough or what... moving the rope around.... then I realize how fucking pathetic I must look- I can't even kill myself. I don't know..... let me look at what you figured out.
 
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