The phrase " a permanent solution to a temporary problem "

[hybridtheory]

screw that saying, i'm sick of hearing it
and the only time I ever do hear it, is from people that don't understand at all
so they have no idea what the hell they're talking about

 

[bigj75]

screw that saying, i'm sick of hearing it
and the only time I ever do hear it, is from people that don't understand at all
so they have no idea what the hell they're talking about

Exactly!

 

[TimeToDie]

Not all suicides are the same. There are the "temporary problem" type such as teen girl who's distraught because her BF dumped her. She will likely forget all about him in a few months.

Then there are the people who frequent this board. Many of them tell absolutely horrifying tales of numerous severe long-standing problems that have no resolution other than death.

 

[mold]

god i hear this all the time from one of my friends and it drives me nuts, how would i know its temporary?

 

[Alchemist]

There's no phrase that bring the anger of a suicidal person than this one.

Pro-lifers love to throw it around cofcof @Stacylmf cofcof as if it were the ultimate pearl of wisdom.

They never think that the temporary problem many of us have is life itself, and that there's nothing wrong with a permanent solution. Hell, it would be pretty dumb to jump from one temporary solution to another when we have one that would end our suffering permanently.

People like that want us to suffer to spare them a few moments of sadness when while all the time we are on this world won't give us the time of the day and will bail out again once they think the crisis is averted. They call us selfish while they say "please keep living and suffering to spare me from feeling sad".

Funny how they always say there's someone who love us when they don't even know us or the state of our lives, that's is as shallow as it comes.

 

[LastFlowers]

Exactly. My issues are for all intents and purposes, permanent.
Also I feel like even if someone's issue is technically temporary, it can either go on long enough where it might as well have been permanent considering all the time lost OR it's done so much damage in the span of time it was present, that you are forever changed when it's over.

 

[Stan]

Going to put my temporary problem in a mathematical formula to help the pro-lifers
(Stan+life) X (depression - hopelessness - future) = ctb

 

[TAW122]

This is such a trite statement and yes, I had my fair share of seeing that plastered all around anti-suicide, suicide prevention related content. It is indeed very infuriating and over-generalizing. These people who spew it are brainless and don't even know each individuals' situation before ever spewing such utter bullshit. Had they known and walked in said people's shoes, they sure as hell would not come up with such a banal, mindless statement.

 

[LastFlowers]

Going to put my temporary problem in a mathematical formula to help the pro-lifers
(Stan+life) X (depression - hopelessness - future) = ctb

I finally understand math

 

[Maravillosa]

I have a suicidal character in the novel I am writing think this to himself:

Life is an endless succession of more or less temporary problems. One problem is resolved and ten others pop up, rather like the Hydra would grow two heads after having one head chopped off.

Although my circumstances do not resemble that of my character, it expresses my sentiments.

 

[MakeItStop]

I HATE this saying, almost more than I hate life. That's something people who don't know what it feels like say.

 

[Darkhaven]

It sure drives me mad.
Specially because my problem is not temporary.
It will 100% stay with me for as long as i live, it will get worse as i age, and it torments me for every passing second as long as i'm conscious.

 

[Asta]

@837 - It was a joke, Nukke! Chill out!

 

[Ratherbeskinny]

My face when I hear or read that phrase:

 

[Untitled]

Yes, it drives me crazy.

Here's another one: "Please help me help you".

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

My problem is not temporary. I will deal with chronic pain for the rest of my life that's why I want to put an end.
That phrase "suicide is selfish" sounds like forcing you to live.

 

[RecycledAtoms]

My problem is not temporary. I will deal with chronic pain for the rest of my life that's why I want to put an end.
That phrase "suicide is selfish" sounds like forcing you to live.

Exactly! What part is more selfish? Ending your life and hurting other people, or staying alive simply to avoid hurting other people? I too get so sick of hearing that phrase.

 

[Untitled]

My problem is not temporary. I will deal with chronic pain for the rest of my life that's why I want to put an end.
That phrase "suicide is selfish" sounds like forcing you to live.

Yeah, this is probably my least favorite phrase. As if it's not selfish to keep a suffering person alive.

And if you're donating your organs then I think it's the opposite of selfish.

 

[Fragile]

i mean, it is true, CTB is indeed a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

but it also works as a permanent solution for every single problem that you'll face in your lifetime, a mosquito bite, cancer, owing every single cent you make, past trauma, future trauma, i really wonder why only one person every 40 seconds do it, with this simple trick you'll solve all of today's and future problems ladies and gentleman!!!

pro lifers sold me on suicide.

 

[WhiteDespair]

i mean, it is true, CTB is indeed a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

but it also works as a permanent solution for every single problem that you'll face in your lifetime, a mosquito bite, cancer, owing every single cent you make, past trauma, future trauma, i really wonder why only one person every 40 seconds do it, with this simple trick you'll solve all of today's and future problems ladies and gentleman!!!

pro lifers sold me on suicide.

This is an informercial. It's information that you get in a commercial!

 

[toomuchgrief]

Temperatory problem? Fuck that. My toddler is DEAD. That is temperatory? Since when do the dead is temperatory? My son is PERMANENTLY DEAD. Unless my son come back to life, no fucking any pro-lifer is going to succeed talk me out of my suicide. Only when I die that will be when all my grief end. Death is my only way out of all this misery.

 

[charlie_z]

What gets really frustrating is when there is an underlying permanent problem, but the symptoms are temporary but recurring. The first dozen or so times, it might feel like a string of temporary problems. Eventually, the realisation is that this is a permanent problem requiring a permanent solution of some description.

Beautiful. I've been sick for a very long time. When I look back, I see myself passing through cycles of deep depression and momentary stays of an almost ordinariness. Sometimes I picked myself up from those long bouts of depression. Sometimes only the inertia time calmed the waters just enough.

When I was younger, I'd tell myself that if I waited long enough I'd find a solution. But this thing that has dwelled within has never shown signs of regress. I confess that I don't like thinking or saying that I'm irreparably damaged; there's a part of me that still dreams of becoming whole. But I am damaged, and as hard as I wish it wasn't so, I am unable to find or create a solution.

 

[MeltingHeart]

Yes lol! That's gotta be the worst comment. I think sure it can apply in some cases when young people act impulsively because things are much more intense when u are young. You haven't hardened up yet and events feel more devastating. I think many more suicides are probably due to longterm difficult if not impossible problems to solve. It's a build up of shit over time. I'm sorry but there is not always long term or permanent solutions to all problems.

I agree! it often (but not always of course ) is a culmination of reoccurring and/ or long-term problems that become to much to bear...the major flaw with that expession is that it only applies to one 'type' of suicide- so in that way it doesnt work...

My problem is not temporary. I will deal with chronic pain for the rest of my life that's why I want to put an end.
That phrase "suicide is selfish" sounds like forcing you to live.

the people that say that are v.selfish in their lack of understanding-its such a double standard

i mean, it is true, CTB is indeed a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

but it also works as a permanent solution for every single problem that you'll face in your lifetime, a mosquito bite, cancer, owing every single cent you make, past trauma, future trauma, i really wonder why only one person every 40 seconds do it, with this simple trick you'll solve all of today's and future problems ladies and gentleman!!!

pro lifers sold me on suicide.

unless the problem isnt temporary...for some it is, others not...

 

[BlueWidow]

The phrase " a permanent solution to a temporary problem "

Does that saying drive any one else here mad ?

How do they know my problem is temporary ?

I gave up talking about suicide to people a long time back

YES, YES, & YES!!!!
I've said in other threads on this site that that is one of my most hated phrases in the entire English language.

The first time I was in the psych ward I was only 13 and we had to cut letters out of magazines that spelled out that phrase and glue them onto pieces of construction paper. Then we had to hang them up in our rooms and read it every day to remind ourselves that our problems were only temporary, which is just another way of them telling you that your problems really don't matter. I am now 50 years old and many of the problems I had at the age of 13, I still have. Therefore, my problems were not temporary which I knew even then at the age of 13. I knew those people were all full of shit, even back then.

 

[MisanthropicLycan]

I find it to be an incredibly patronizing and condescending statement made by people who don't know what it's like to experience soul-crushing depression and despair. We wouldn't be contemplating suicide if we hadn't struggled through an endless amount of suffering that time does not erase. Mental illness is not a temporary problem. We are cursed with diseased brains that will torment us for as long as we are alive. So yeah the statement is stupid as hell and also very insulting. I hate when people say that mindless crap and act like it is helpful advice.

 

[Freedom21]

Beautiful. I've been sick for a very long time. When I look back, I see myself passing through cycles of deep depression and momentary stays of an almost ordinariness. Sometimes I picked myself up from those long bouts of depression. Sometimes only the inertia time calmed the waters just enough.

When I was younger, I'd tell myself that if I waited long enough I'd find a solution. But this thing that has dwelled within has never shown signs of regress. I confess that I don't like thinking or saying that I'm irreparably damaged; there's a part of me that still dreams of becoming whole. But I am damaged, and as hard as I wish it wasn't so, I am unable to find or create a solution.

Do u regret staying alive for those years? Was it worth it? I wish sometimes that I would have killed myself when I was younger. Kids get a pass from the harsh judgement in my opinion. I vividly remember when my bunny was really sick and having seizures my dad brought home morphine to help her pass comfortably. He's a doctor. I remember wanting to die from it but I was afraid to get caught looking for it. I regret that I had the best way to kill myself and didn't do it.

 

[BlueWidow]

Not trying to hijack this thread, but one phrase which drives me crazy is when I'm told either I don't love Jesus enough, or when they imply that if I only had faith, my depression would go away... (Like *Magic* , right??)

Yes, exactly
They really need an eye roll emoji on here

 

[Sweet emotion]

That saying makes me sick. Because my problem is not temporary. I suffer from Complex regional pain syndrome which is the highest ranking pain condition in medical history. It's chronic and as time goes on you only get worse. There are no treatments or cures. There's no awareness being brought to it so there's no research. My good friend killed herself three years ago because she had it. I've had it for over 14 years. I think that is enough time to suffer the way that I have. So should I spend the rest of my life like this? I got it when I was 20 and I'm 34 now. This stop my entire life and it will continue to if I don't stop it.

And even if someone doesn't have a physical disease.....depression and mental illness can be the same way. It can never go away and no one deserves to lives their lives miserable unless they're a murderer or a pedophile or a rapist.

There are a lot of saying that I hate....some are

Well just remember someone always has it worse
This is God's plan for you
There's a reason for everything
God doesn't give us more than we can handle

I don't believe in God. I was brought up Catholic but once I started thinking for myself j said this is all bullshit.

 

[RecycledAtoms]

Not trying to hijack this thread, but one phrase which drives me crazy is when I'm told either I don't love Jesus enough, or when they imply that if I only had faith, my depression would go away... (Like *Magic* , right??)

True true! Few people love Jesus as much as I do and yet I still think about suicide. People just don't get it and they speak from pure ignorance.

 

[SoyImbecilaburrido]

YES, YES, & YES!!!!
I've said in other threads on this site that that is one of my most hated phrases in the entire English language.

The first time I was in the psych ward I was only 13 and we had to cut letters out of magazines that spelled out that phrase and glue them onto pieces of construction paper. Then we had to hang them up in our rooms and read it every day to remind ourselves that our problems were only temporary, which is just another way of them telling you that your problems really don't matter. I am now 50 years old and many of the problems I had at the age of 13, I still have. Therefore, my problems were not temporary which I knew even then at the age of 13. I knew those people were all full of shit, even back then.

Im more and more confused