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marriedindeed

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Exit's platorform is tight-knit. The platform they upload the PDFs is on Yudo and those are behind a password and username generated to the email you purchased. Newer accounts are more prone to being accused of ripping/distributing it. If you have an older account that is still paying yearly for the membership, it's possible for you not to get busted from Exit (if you're distributing publicly on a forum like this).

Sources are hard. When I uploaded this copy, I wanted a genuine version that I could verify for myself.
@HelensNepenthe, can you PM me please - its regarding the DMCA you received.
 
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Oblivion

Oblivion

Wizard
Aug 2, 2018
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Damn, just wanna if there's anything new about SN
 
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Centerism

Centerism

Love is my final option
Aug 25, 2019
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Thank you so for your kind contributions. I'm excited yup see all the helpful and new information here. This post should be pinned. I'm happy to say some of this stuff I'll take to heart.

Thanks again :hug:
 
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Exit's platorform is tight-knit. The platform they upload the PDFs is on Yudo and those are behind a password and username generated to the email you purchased. Newer accounts are more prone to being accused of ripping/distributing it. If you have an older account that is still paying yearly for the membership, it's possible for you not to get busted from Exit (if you're distributing publicly on a forum like this).

Sources are hard. When I uploaded this copy, I wanted a genuine version that I could verify for myself.
Just take some screenshots, if you can. Of the SN section and the distributors would work.
 
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tominator

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If you search Libgen aka libgen.is you can find the March 2019 edition there since first post link seems to be dead.
 
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Painpleasure

Painpleasure

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The link to the PDF under "List of Resources" is broken. Can we update it with the following PDF mirror I found? It's a bit difficult reading the book only through pictures:


Maybe @Alchemist or another mod can help. Sorry if this is against any rules here but this thread is the best PPH source we have.
 
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swoosh
Sep 6, 2019
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The link to the PDF under "List of Resources" is broken. Can we update it with the following PDF mirror I found? It's a bit difficult reading the book only through pictures:


Maybe @Alchemist or another mod can help. Sorry if this is against any rules here but this thread is the best PPH source we have.

And can someone in the know check certain email addresses in the new linked version?
 
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Painpleasure

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And can someone in the know check certain email addresses in the new linked version?
Yes, please make sure the emails are correct before updating the link. I checked and seems fine but doesn't hurt to have another set of eyes make sure.
 
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color_me_gone

color_me_gone

Sun is rising
Dec 27, 2018
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How would someone be able to tell that the email address in the new source is the legit person of interest, and not some scammer?

Only way i can see is someone who bought product, was actually delivered, and tested as genuine and pure.
 
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How would someone be able to tell that the email address in the new source is the legit person of interest, and not some scammer?

Only way i can see is someone who bought product, was actually delivered, and tested as genuine and pure.
The emails in the PDF I linked are the same as those in the JPEG images posted under "list of resources". Check for yourself. Anyway was just trying to help man
 
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RightToExit

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Damn, just wanna if there's anything new about SN

The biggest SN changes in the recent updates were: Recommended dose for reliable death is now 25g, with 35g for people over 100kg body weight, plus it's now recommended to take 2g of the beta blocker propanolol together with the SN to potentiate the effects (the idea is to prevent the heart from compensating the oxygen deprivation to the brain by increasing blood flow). Other than that, they are going to sell SN test kits to test concentration and if you actually have SN. Then they have some reports about the political controvery and media coverage in the Netherlands, plus new instruction videos for how to test the SN and dissolve the propanolol.

Edit: Whoops, I didn't realize how old this thread was. I thought it was a recent question.
 
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The biggest SN changes in the recent updates were: Recommended dose for reliable death is now 25g, with 35g for people over 100kg body weight, plus it's now recommended to take 2g of the beta blocker propanolol together with the SN to potentiate the effects (the idea is to prevent the heart from compensating the oxygen deprivation to the brain by increasing blood flow). Other than that, they are going to sell SN test kits to test concentration and if you actually have SN. Then they have some reports about the political controvery and media coverage in the Netherlands, plus new instruction videos for how to test the SN and dissolve the propanolol.

Edit: Whoops, I didn't realize how old this thread was. I thought it was a recent question.

Do they give an estimated time of death for SN in the latest guide? The old one said 40 minutes, and I'm hoping it hasn't been revised to longer than that. Thank you!
 
Blackjack

Blackjack

I’ll be watching...
Aug 6, 2019
777
I cannot access the PPH on my phone & have a question.

Is there anything in the PPH that gives an estimated "death countdown" or a timeline of events in terms of what happens to the body after you drink Nembutal? (like I've seen for SN).
 
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Jul 19, 2019
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The biggest SN changes in the recent updates were: Recommended dose for reliable death is now 25g, with 35g for people over 100kg body weight, plus it's now recommended to take 2g of the beta blocker propanolol together with the SN to potentiate the effects (the idea is to prevent the heart from compensating the oxygen deprivation to the brain by increasing blood flow). Other than that, they are going to sell SN test kits to test concentration and if you actually have SN. Then they have some reports about the political controvery and media coverage in the Netherlands, plus new instruction videos for how to test the SN and dissolve the propanolol.

Edit: Whoops, I didn't realize how old this thread was. I thought it was a recent question.
2gms of propranolol? Is that accurate? That's a beta blocker OD, sometimes resulting in tachycardia. Are you sure it's that much propranolol? I feel like a much lower dose would be sufficient in keeping the heart rate down even through a panic. I could be wrong but just making sure.
 
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RightToExit

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2gms of propranolol? Is that accurate? That's a beta blocker OD, sometimes resulting in tachycardia. Are you sure it's that much propranolol? I feel like a much lower dose would be sufficient in keeping the heart rate down even through a panic. I could be wrong but just making sure.

Yes. 2 grams are written several times in the text, and in the video, Philip Nitschke mentiones it and then uses 50 tablets (40mg propanolol each). Whether you want to follow their advice, is of course up to you.
Do they give an estimated time of death for SN in the latest guide? The old one said 40 minutes, and I'm hoping it hasn't been revised to longer than that. Thank you!

I think this hasn't changed. They still reference the same case, with the 3 minutes sleepy, 12 minutes unconscious, 40 minutes death. I didn't see any update there.
 
Painpleasure

Painpleasure

Student
Apr 9, 2019
108
The emails in the PDF are different, hence why the PDF is not listed in the Resources section. I wrote in length about this back in August. See below:
www.sanctionedsuicide.com/threads/to-those-in-search-of-n.20386/post-383116
The claim that the emails are different is factually incorrect. I have downloaded the PDF from the link I provided above and confirmed that the emails and all other content are the same.

The link to PDF I provided is different to the link in thread you wrote about in August. I suggest that you personally download the PDF and compare the emails to the screenshots listed under Resources Section. Please return to this thread and report on your observations after doing so.

This forum, and particularly the Resources Section, has been a god send for me and helped me save the little money that I have by providing a free copy to the Peaceful Pill Handbook. I feel obliged to help this community in return regardless of how small my contribution may be.
 
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RightToExit

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I cannot access the PPH on my phone & have a question.

Is there anything in the PPH that gives an estimated "death countdown" or a timeline of events in terms of what happens to the body after you drink Nembutal? (like I've seen for SN).
They say if you inject it, you lose consciousness within seconds and die shortly later.

For oral use, you can easily find videos on the internet, e.g. from Dignitas members who drank it. It's not immediate, but pretty fast. I think it makes you fall asleep faster than SN (they give a better speed rating for Nembutal than for SN and indicate more uncertainty for SN). I didn't find any "death timeline" in the PPH though.
 
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Blackjack

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They say if you inject it, you lose consciousness within seconds and die shortly later.

For oral use, you can easily find videos on the internet, e.g. from Dignitas members who drank it. It's not immediate, but pretty fast. I think it makes you fall asleep faster than SN (they give a better speed rating for Nembutal than for SN and indicate more uncertainty for SN). I didn't find any "death timeline" in the PPH though.

I've not heard of anyone injecting N?

Yes I've watched all the Dignitas & other videos. People on them fall unconscious quickly, but how soon thereafter does death occur?
 
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RightToExit

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I've not heard of anyone injecting N?

Yes I've watched all the Dignitas & other videos. People on them fall unconscious quickly, but how soon thereafter does death occur?

In the Netherlands, lethal injection is used for consensual euthanasia. In Switzerland, Erika Preisig did it for her clients, who then opened the valve so the final act to cause the pentobarbital flow into their veins was in the hand of the patient.

I can't tell you how soon death occurs, I couldn't find anything specific in the PPH. I vaguely remember a case of a physically healthy Exit member who was manic-depressive and took N to die. IIRC, he was still alive for quite a bit, so you can't rely on dying instantly.
 
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Blackjack

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In the Netherlands, lethal injection is used for consensual euthanasia. In Switzerland, Erika Preisig did it for her clients, who then opened the valve so the final act to cause the pentobarbital flow into their veins was in the hand of the patient.

I can't tell you how soon death occurs, I couldn't find anything specific in the PPH. I vaguely remember a case of a physically healthy Exit member who was manic-depressive and took N to die. IIRC, he was still alive for quite a bit, so you can't rely on dying instantly.

Thanks for the info & for checking the PPH.
 
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RightToExit

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Thanks for the info & for checking the PPH.
I just discovered a bit of information I overlooked. They say most people who took a deadly oral dose of liquid veterinary N die within 1-2 hours, however there is a very small percentage of people being comatose for hours, in rare cases up to 24 hours.They assume that this can be caused by alcoholism or long-term use of psychopharmaca interacting with liver enzymes. In such a rare case, being found comatose and "rescued" can be a cause for failure. They mention that the medication Dilantin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenytoin) can have an accelerating effect for N.
 
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Blackjack

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Aug 6, 2019
777
I just discovered a bit of information I overlooked. They say most people who took a deadly oral dose of liquid veterinary N die within 1-2 hours, however there is a very small percentage of people being comatose for hours, in rare cases up to 24 hours.They assume that this can be caused by alcoholism or long-term use of psychopharmaca interacting with liver enzymes. In such a rare case, being found comatose and "rescued" can be a cause for failure. They mention that the medication Dilantin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenytoin) can have an accelerating effect for N.

Good stuff, thanks for that. If you come across any more helpful N info, please pass it on since I can't access the PPH on my phone. Appreciate ya.
 
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Oblivion

Oblivion

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Aug 2, 2018
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CAN ANYONE confirm the new info on SN?
 
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HelensNepenthe

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Jan 17, 2019
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Please stop using mirrors unless they're the images in my post. Compile your own PDF with the instructions in the post. Irfanview is the easiest way to do this.
 
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SweetSpot086

Experienced
Aug 25, 2019
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Can someone summarize what else is new? Other than SN..any new drug cocktails? Any new information about carotid compression? (Korean method)
 
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morningdew

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Jul 8, 2019
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happen to have the most recent update?
 
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yellothere

yellothere

I don’t want to die... I just want to go back
Aug 12, 2021
100
From everyone here, thankyou very much!
Weird, I thought 60 mins was required for a stat dose of metoclopramide (not 30mins). Same goes for Cimetidine? There is so much variation with dosages and times sprawled across the SN megathread for this method. Hard to know what is most effective.
How did you get the handbook? Did you purchase it? I have tried.
Use the AnonFile mirror above. Exit submitted a DMCA on it.
What is DMCA?
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In the Netherlands, lethal injection is used for consensual euthanasia. In Switzerland, Erika Preisig did it for her clients, who then opened the valve so the final act to cause the pentobarbital flow into their veins was in the hand of the patient.

I can't tell you how soon death occurs, I couldn't find anything specific in the PPH. I vaguely remember a case of a physically healthy Exit member who was manic-depressive and took N to die. IIRC, he was still alive for quite a bit, so you can't rely on dying instantly.
But did he die?
 
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