Method The "night-night" method mega thread.

[dajana]

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[bubbledumbprin]

You are referring to people waking up from partial where some blood flow is restored to the brain and they become conscious again. This usually happens because of involuntary convulsions that shift the body. Remember, partial relies on an intricate balance of rope/knot placement, and body position. When involuntary movements start to happen, the slightest shift restores some or partial flow back to the brain, causing people to wake up in a panic, SI kicks in, and they desperately try to save themselves.

That is a completely different mechanism and why partial is so difficult to get right.

If you are referring to night night, SI only kicks in because people have such a difficult time blocking the carotids adequately, and instead are placing pressure on the jugulars and getting that exploding head feeling - this is what triggers SI and people ripping things off of them.

There is no such thing as SI when you are unconscious, so you are referring to instances where people are unconscious and then became conscious, in which SI became a factor. Or, they never went unconscious in the first place, and SI kicked in. It may *seem* like some anecdotal reports here were of people unconscious and saving themselves, but that's not the case. They were unconscious, became conscious and forgot about it, or were disoriented/confused.

This does not apply to my method, Once the carotids are occluded and you pass out, there is no waking up from that unless blood pressure is restored to the brain. You don't wake back up, therefore there is no "SI" to contend with.

It's ok, I was just trying to help, I didn't mean to turn this in to an argument.

Hope you find the peace you are after,

There's something really likeable about the way you convey the information stored in your brain. I read earlier that you're .. going away soon. Best of luck, stranger. I hope to follow along soon.

 

[maggot]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/video-of-a-successful-suicide-attempt-using-the-night-night-suicide-method.177416/ Does anyone know if the guy in this video really used the night night method or did he just choke himself? Because it looks painful...

And when using the night-night method, do you make these loud noises like in the video?

The thing is it's the only night-night video available so we can't compare, but most likely he did it wrong blocking his trachea, judging by the weird noises.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

Has anyone been successful with this method that we know of?

 

[LonelySam]

Hey people, first time posting here. (Okay, second time if you count my previous answer).

I'm currently in a horrible place from which I cannot get out and that is why I've been looking into this method for a while now.

Previously, I've been practicing a lot and had been unsuccesfull in finding the blob, or "sweet spot"... Until yesterday when I tried it sitting down instead of lying down. My back was straight and against a wall and my head looking a bit upwards, so I had full access to my neck. Then I tried with my thumb, index and middle finger in a U shape technique and started from the angle on my jaw and down from there to the middle of my neck and applied very little pressure, not a squeeze. Vision immediately started to fade and I could feel I was starting to loose counciousness.

I had to come and post this for two reasons: 1. It is definetely doable and yes, you can find the sweet spot with a little bit of patience.

2. Only down side I've found so far and for which I need advice is, I have not been able to find that same spot when lying down and I definetely need to be lying down for this or I might not succeed if I fall down and regain blood flow to my brain, AND I REALLY NEED TO BE SUCCESFUL when I finally do it (hopefully next week) as I will not be able to do it again if I fail.

Any ideas will be deeply appreciated.

 

[maggot]

Only down side I've found so far and for which I need advice is, I have not been able to find that same spot when lying down and I definetely need to be lying down for this or I might not succeed if I fall down and regain blood flow to my brain, AND I REALLY NEED TO BE SUCCESFUL when I finally do it (hopefully next week) as I will not be able to do it again if I fail.

Here is an image I had saved about this method. Maybe try putting something under your neck

 

[river~]

It makes me panic when I try!

 

[dorko]

My unsuccessful attempt(s):

i tried over and over for some days.
first i was optimistic since i was able to get kind of unconscious pressing with my fingers / palms of my hands.

these things were key for me:

• stretch your neck / tilt your head upwards (as mentioned)
• slow your breath or pause it for some seconds

Then i ordered the stuff mentioned.

in the meantime:
it seems to me the more i tried, the less it worked with fingers - maybe because my neck got swolen so the pressure could'nt reach the arteries.

When ratchet and cornbags arrived i tried various setups standing, sitting and lying:

• rolled socks (small)
• more rolled socks to cover a larger area
• rolled socks with bottle caps
• raw cornbags
• rolled cornbags to focus pressure
• all the above fixed to the strap or lose

no matter what i tried, never really got it to work beside that one time i tried it standing with rolled socks (small) not attached to the strap, where i just wanted to test and woke up on the floor because i landed on my back and my neck was not stretched anymore.

that motivated me and i was ready to ctb, took some time to get the setup right again but since i couldnt get it to work i switched through all setups again until i got the feeling that it works with the rolled cornbags. i tightened the strap, sight got blurry, loosened it again, organized last things (as i thought), laid down, tightened it again... and nothing.

put it away and thought of going the train way but no.
since then i was not able to at least get dizzy with my fingers what worked so great at the beginning.

Now going with SN .

 

[Unlucky777]

It's that simple? Am I dreaming? No freaking way. This gives me so much hope that I can pull this off one of these days

Edit. Ugh not as simple as when I first read it. Guess I will keep on trying to find the spot everyone seems to be talking about

 

[OzymandiAsh]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

I have a lot of questions...

Number one is why the fuck would they teach this in the Marines

So I'm guessing these two cornhole bags go on the front of the neck, either side of the windpipe... but what function do they serve...
Essentially these are two small bean bags, right?
I guess the objective is to tighten the tape or strap enough to occlude the carotid arteries?

 

[flanagle]

I have been trying to find my sweet spot for several days and I am starting to question the possibility of this. When I first found this method I went in blind and just tried, which ended about how you'd expect. Me sitting there with socks and a strap wrapped around with nothing happening. So I have now read this forum, looked at diagrams, and watched videos, and I still can't seem to get it right. I can find the pulsing blobs with my fingers, but any way I press they just move around. The few times it felt like something compressed, I could still feel the pulse and nothing happened. The only thing I've been able to make happen is my vision seeming to flutter with the pulse a little, but not ever going blurry and not ever any dizziness. Is there a special way to compress them without them moving and without the pulse being able to continue? I'm determined to make this happen now, and it seems like getting it correct with your fingers first seems key, but it seems like I'm too incompetent to figure it out.

 

[UnPlugMe69]

Gonna have to postpone this till I can move out, can't have my younger siblings or parent see me with bulged eyes and a blue puffed face. Just realized I have some level of empathy, I don't want to traumatize others for the rest of their lives.

 

[Past-Expiry-Date]

For the last 4 days, I've spent at least 1 hour every evening trying to find this "sweet spot", either using the one-hand method or the both-hands method. The sweet-spot is non-existent, and the method is absolutely useless.

 

[Past-Expiry-Date]

Update: Tried it once again this morning, lying down on the bed, without a pillow, fully relaxed, hands clasped behind my neck but both thumbs free and pressing the throat inward and upward on either side right below the jaw. Damn, it finally worked - near loss of consciousness after less than 5 seconds. But you have to hit the correct spot on both sides - hitting the correct spot just on one side is not enough.

More diligent practice needed.

 

[Suizident]

Wow, respect for managing to find your sweet spot!

I haven't managed it yet.

Unfortunately, I'm in a situation where I need to find my sweet spot very quickly.

Would it be possible for you to post a photo of how you hold the neck with both hands? So that we can get a better idea? Or mark the sweet spot with a felt-tip pen or a piece of tape in a photo?

I don't think the picture in the opening post of this thread is very helpful (the sweet spot and the position of the ratchet are not described in enough detail), although I am otherwise very grateful to the person who described this method (Koz, R.I.P.) for posting these instructions here.

Guys, together we can make this method (especially finding the sweet spot and positioning the ratchet) foolproof! :D

If we can do that, the method will be the new gold standard, because unlike FSH, it doesn't require an anchor point and could therefore be performed anywhere...

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

I may have one or two suggestions for optimization. I hope I haven't overlooked anything and this has already been posted. ;)

Right off the bat, I like the Idea with the ratchet more than the tape. First of all, you can try it out better without coming to the end, secondly, you can perhaps work with the ratchet in a more controlled way than with the adhesive tape. From experience in the attachment of loads to a trailer, I know that such ratchets can be tightened in a very controlled and dosed manner. Normally, the digners hold bombproof if you position them correctly and pull them closed. An accidental release should not happen easily, at least not with the ratchets I know, you have to use some force to press the lever and release the tension.


So my idea:

In front of the mirror or lying down, place the two corn suplets in the right place and then fix them with two pieces of Ktextile adhesive tape each? Then you can fasten the ratchet at your leisure without having to worry about the bags slipping. The skin should be warm and dry, perhaps wait briefly for the adhesive to bond with the skin.

 

[Past-Expiry-Date]

Wow, respect for managing to find your sweet spot!

I haven't managed it yet.

Unfortunately, I'm in a situation where I need to find my sweet spot very quickly.

Would it be possible for you to post a photo of how you hold the neck with both hands? So that we can get a better idea? Or mark the sweet spot with a felt-tip pen or a piece of tape in a photo?

I don't think the picture in the opening post of this thread is very helpful (the sweet spot and the position of the ratchet are not described in enough detail), although I am otherwise very grateful to the person who described this method (Koz, R.I.P.) for posting these instructions here.

Guys, together we can make this method (especially finding the sweet spot and positioning the ratchet) foolproof! :D

If we can do that, the method will be the new gold standard, because unlike FSH, it doesn't require an anchor point and could therefore be performed anywhere...


I may have one or two suggestions for optimization. I hope I haven't overlooked anything and this has already been posted. ;)

Right off the bat, I like the Idea with the ratchet more than the tape. First of all, you can try it out better without coming to the end, secondly, you can perhaps work with the ratchet in a more controlled way than with the adhesive tape. From experience in the attachment of loads to a trailer, I know that such ratchets can be tightened in a very controlled and dosed manner. Normally, the digners hold bombproof if you position them correctly and pull them closed. An accidental release should not happen easily, at least not with the ratchets I know, you have to use some force to press the lever and release the tension.


So my idea:

In front of the mirror or lying down, place the two corn suplets in the right place and then fix them with two pieces of Ktextile adhesive tape each? Then you can fasten the ratchet at your leisure without having to worry about the bags slipping. The skin should be warm and dry, perhaps wait briefly for the adhesive to bond with the skin.

Hi there, I think it's still too early to supply diagrams or photos indicating exact spots, for the following 2 reasons:

(1) Whereas my success rate is no longer zero, it is still just approximately 10 percent, i.e. 1 out of 10 attempts at locating the "sweet spots" on both sides simultaneously is successful at present. So I need much more practice here.

(2) As mentioned earlier, I am presently able to attain a near loss of consciousness, but not full unconsciousness. The sensation is one of detachment and mild euphoria, akin to that said to be experienced by teenagers when they play their "fainting game". So here too, I need a lot more practice.

As concerns the approximate location of the spots:

Along the vertical axis, the spots are located in the upper third of my throat, entirely in contrast, for example, to the tests conducted here (where the pressure was applied to the lower third of the throat):

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3848716

I'll occasionally continue to try the lower third too, but am much more impressed by the upper third.

Along the horizontal axis, it's best to start applying pressure starting at the edges of the thyroid cartilage and slowly working your way outwards toward the carotid arteries. Don't go too far out or you will start constricting the jugular veins too, which is not a good idea, I've heard.

As I also mentioned earlier, use of both thumbs alone is enough for me to attain the state of detachment and mild euphoria described above, so I'm guessing that in the final setup - whether ratchet strap with bags or blood-pressure cuff with pads, or whatever else - the bags/pads will not need to be very large, and would indeed become counter-productive beyond a certain size.

My hands are positioned as shown in the attached photo, except that the thumbs are free and used at the front to apply pressure to the throat.

I'll continue providing updates as and when important benchmarks are attained. Good luck!

 

[TheTwelthRootOfTwo]

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

Off topic, but... I just opened the sackhole/cornhole sacks on Amazon, and under "related products" the first thing shown is Gorilla Tape. What the heck? Haha

Hey everyone,

Been talking to a lot of people in the chat and trying to explain this method, and one user wanted me to make a post about it, so here goes everything.

We're going after a classic idea of using a blood choke, except, it will be against ourselves. In the privacy of our own homes. In a fully relaxed state.

This method is fully capable and will kill you very fast. I know this because it's what we were taught in the Marine Corps.

First, you're going to want some Gorilla tape OR a tree ratchet.

Second, get two Sackhole/Cornhole bags.

Now, depending on what you're using, you'll want to lie on the ground and put the bags on these two exact areas on your neck (In blue).

The reason we're lying on the ground is that we want to be able not to have to fuss over putting the bags on us and making sure they don't fall out of place before we use the ratchet or the tape. You're putting the bags on these two areas to go after the internal carotid arteries.

Start cinching the ratchet closed or wrap the tape around your neck once. Is everything feeling good? I'm glad. If not, then uncinch it a little and place the bags. You want to make sure that you're not compressing the windpipe as that could cause you to freak out a little.

We want this to be painless and fast.

After you're comfortable, sit down if you want to or stand up. Do whatever you want honestly. Start wrapping the tape around your neck more and a little tighter or start closing the ratchet more.

In about 5-20 seconds you will pass out. After that, it's pretty much game over unless you somehow hit the ratchet release. That's why I said we could also use tape as well. With the gorilla tape, it will make sure that you don't inadvertently try to tear the tap off... because it will be strong as hell around your neck.

After you pass out, it will only take a few minutes, and you will be brain dead from the complete lack of blood flow to your brain.

I think I've explained this pretty well and I hope you guys understand the method. If not, please don't hesitate and I'm sure that I can help you out or someone else in the community can help you out.

Thank you for this. I think I'm feeling pulled more toward this method than the partial hanging. Seems easier.

Could I have some alcohol before-hand? Just to lessen the survival instinct?

 

[lilb0wpeep]

Attempted this so many times and every single time I haven't been able to get enough force to stay on the correct spot for it to work, or even make me successfully pass out.

 

[Cepheuss]

Off topic, but... I just opened the sackhole/cornhole sacks on Amazon, and under "related products" the first thing shown is Gorilla Tape. What the heck? Haha

Thank you for this. I think I'm feeling pulled more toward this method than the partial hanging. Seems easier.

Could I have some alcohol before-hand? Just to lessen the survival instinct?

Dont drink beforehand i did and ended up throwing up everywhere which isnt great when youve got rope around your neck. This method isnt likely to work just so you are aware its only made for certain people really but its your choice to try.

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

Is there any track record of this working? When I read about suicides I see a lot of hangings and no other self-strangulations.

 

[aurevoir]

I think this explains things perfectly - also the functions of partial hanging.

Now most probably the method I will go with.

Thanks a lot!!

Edit: Once I got it right, it was almost a frighteningly pleasant sensation. Gotta be quick to stop yourself in time.

Tried this and I must just be incompetent cause all 5 times I tried, nothing.

 

[gardenhouse]

Sounds painful

 

[Last_sunset]

I have tried countless times. I get blurry vision, slight euphoria and weakness. However I have never been able to pass out. the jugulars become easily compressed causing immense pain and even bearing through the pain for almost a minute resulted in nothing.

 

[somethingyetflowers]

has anyone actually succeeded with this

 

[uklad38]

Anyone heard of this actually working, I can't find the spots, can find the pulses on both sides but anytime I press them nothing happens. Are you supposed to just press them or sort of a pinch or what is the best way. Any advise appreciated

 

[shinitai-chan]

why am i panicking just from reading and imagining that… i hate my stupid instincts

 

[nocturnal123]

I have tried this a few times. Always got the heavy feeling in head but never actually passed out.

 

[tabbycat]

I need help understanding this method. I have a hard time turning word into images in my head. But it sounds like the way I might want to go. I've about had it with all the trauma. I was almost strangled to death and my only regret is that he let go because.. it felt so good feeling the world fade out.

 

[Dgfhfjkl]

Are you sure that method is painless?

Have anyone tried this method and successfully ctb?

This is my question, too

It would work with an endless ratchet strap.


For a better idea of how to use it, watch this:



The best way to think about it is that the ratchet is going around your neck (with your padding), instead of the desk.



I can't speak for anyone else, but the method is pretty much painless. The biggest thing that might happen is that you'll feel your head "expand" a little more and feel the pressure around your neck. I've been blood choked multiple times in the Marines, and the only thing that I ever felt was the other person pressing against my neck with their arms. Then I started passing out, and I would have to tap out, or I would have been knocked out completely.

Something very important, if anyone is still kind of confused, then this video is PERFECT at what you're trying to execute. Except we're going for a little more padding to allow us to cover more ground, effectively cutting off MORE of the carotid arteries.





I would say that you would want to have the ratchet on the back of your neck, so the strap is in the front. So imagine that the cornhole bags or whatever is on your neck for padding has the strap directly in the middle of it. Then you can start tightening the ratchet behind your neck.



This is another thing that you can do if you want to, I won't CTB with a bag on my head though. With the blood choke, I want to pass out and have the brain have no blood at all. I want to be able to breathe perfectly fine while I start passing out and then just go from there.

Though, I will say this, cutting off oxygen and then suffocating from there will be more efficient as you're cutting off both the blood to your brain AND the Oxygen.



This will completely depend on the person honestly. With the ratchet method, you DO NOT even have to apply that much pressure (As stated in the video above). You can tighten it more though if you want to make sure that you know it's barely going to budge. You're still cutting off the blood flow to your brain though. You just want to make sure that the ratchet is tight enough to your liking and keeping the bags in place.

The reason I recommended both as stated before is that it will come down to personal preference. If the tape bothers your skin too much, go with the ratchet, or vise versa.



As stated before, you just want to go with just enough or just a little over so that you start cutting off the circulation. It completely comes down to personal preference. With the ratchet or tape though, you have MORE pressure being put against the bags which will allow more pressure against the arteries.



It will just take practice to find your sweet spot. I hope that I described everything as much as possible in this update.



Exactly, or if you want to think of it differently, it's the specific parts of the arm in the linked video above.



You could I guess. The way I think you're talking about it, I would personally tie it to the door and then the other part of it around my neck. Then I would be on my knees and make sure the line is straight. After that, I would lean forward.

The HUGE problem with doing that though is if it's not applying enough pressure and your body goes limp, then the padding could come loose and then you have no pressure against the arteries so it could be a failed attempt.



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I think I've covered every message so far.

Is this painless?

I was also going to ask if it's 100% effective, but that last paragraph kinda covered it, so I now have a new question: why can't experienced people help us in real life?

 

[lucky98]

i'm about to use this method.

hey all, i made this account some time ago to comment once i'd tied up my loose ends. i didn't do NEAR the amount of prep i've seen others express in the comments. i looked at some pictures, little bits of some videos, and a few pages of comments. i also used my fingers to find the "sweet spot" with little difficulty. my neck is pretty thin though. anyway, i've got my ratchet ready and cornhole bags beside me. if i succeed, you won't hear back from me and it likely was just as painless as described. if i fail, i will come back to say so (and what went wrong).

also i'm sincerely grateful this method was shared. most of my life i debated jumping or pills or hanging. doing this might just be my saving grace.

and yea if i manage to kick the bucket..i wish everyone peace no matter what that is.