Method Sodium nitrite method step by step

[Arak]

Just for reference https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-reliability-and-peacefulness.8049/

 

[JAG_78]

Can't get it in UK.

I've ordered it from a well reviewed seller on EBay. Posting from USA to UK and taking probably 3 weeks to reach me.

 

[NoOneKnows]

Without scaring anyone off. Im questioning the validity of no side effects if survival. The mechanism in which SN is use for ctb is by stopping blood from carrying oxygen, from what ive read your body would be able to completely convert all the methemoglobinemia back to hemoglobin within 2 hours assuming normal cell function and no rescue and a dose low enough for survival. This means significant shortage of oxygen in the body for prolonged period of time. Surely brain damage from this is a posibility.

concern me greatly as well, too bad we have no medical person willing to participate to clear up the risks of potential consequences (there have been doctors here, but they never share )
- too bad, cuz if i know there is high risk ,in case u are saved or find too soon, I d rather stick with jumping, I can not wait any longer for clearing this up, every second feels like a emotional physical and mental incessant stabbing

 

[Meretlein]

Thanks for the info. I plan to do this if my plan to get N fails.

 

[Arak]

@Cody111 ,

Good point.

@NoOneKnows ,

Also a good point. We have or did have a few people with a medical background. I personally would like to know if the Exit people (pharmacists, doctors etc.) have some knowledge and insight. @intr0naut , if there is any additional information about SN on the Exit forums ?

I had forgotten https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-reliability-and-peacefulness.8049/
Even the dose ... is 15 gr enough .... I just watched that video. Nitschke, that idiot stated that SN would cause euphoria ... and he said that 10 gr is enough ... while his chart states 15 gr ... the 'side effects' ... it could be quite brutal. There is so much we don't know.

I actually have sodium azide as a 'poor man's cyanide', and it will likely me in a few hours at a dose of 20-20 gr ... but so much more brutal than expected. The things we can forget in a few months. Actually, even pentobarbital isn't that peaceful if it doesn't work the way it should since it's intended to sedate rather than kill. But that aside.

I recently got some SN from a UK company. Those horrible protective governments that prevent us from getting firearms or cyanide.

I actually ask if this is true:
"All mammals, including humans, have an enzyme that is able to change methemoglobin, which cannot bind oxygen back to hemoglobin," Gentry said. "But pigs don't have as much of this enzyme, so it takes less sodium nitrite to overload their system." http://www.thepineywoods.com/FatalBaitAug14.htm

SN ... objective and subjective effects ?

 

[JAG_78]

concern me greatly as well, too bad we have no medical person willing to participate to clear up the risks of potential consequences (there have been doctors here, but they never share )
- too bad, cuz if i know there is high risk ,in case u are saved or find too soon, I d rather stick with jumping, I can not wait any longer for clearing this up, every second feels like a emotional physical and mental incessant stabbing

I'm guessing that even some doctors (perhaps most?) wouldn't know.

 

[NoOneKnows]

of course they would know..to offer the window of possibility based o n the mechanism, approximate time frame etc....doctors may suck in treating chronic diseases but they are really good at this ER stuff, every doctor, no exception. dont be so naive

 

[JAG_78]

of course they would know..to offer the window of possibility based o n the mechanism, approximate time frame etc....doctors may suck in treating chronic diseases but they are really good at this ER stuff, every doctor, no exception. dont be so naive

An ER doctor yes. A chemist or a pharmacist yes. But probably not a general practitioner, a gynaecologist or an immunologist.

 

[Thisisme373]

So what exactly would I need for this method, how much of each product and how would I get them in the UK?
Could I just ingest everything at once, seems to much hassle taking things days ahead etc.
Also would it be better to take more SN to
make sure.

 

[Arak]

I updated https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-reliability-and-peacefulness.8049/

 

[Suicide_friend]

i think it is, but i cant find the benzodiazepines for sn method. about hang, i dont know, a user told it is painless if you make the right method, but im afraid about this.

Hi! I am also from Brazil, where can I buy SN?

 

[vonvonwantpeace]

Thanks.

 

[hadenough]

There are some papers about accidental methemoglobinemia:

Toxic Brain Injury with Nitrobenzene Poisoning

Acute methemoglobinemia secondary to nitrobenzene ingestion is a rare but well-known clinical entity. It is extremely important to identify such patients as rapid and effective management with methylene blue and other supportive measures will often save ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"A 17 year old female had accidentally ingested nitrobenzene and presented with vomiting, headache, and light-headedness. MRI showed hyperintensities in bilateral corticospinal tracts with bilateral hyperintensity in dentate and splenium of corpus callosum. Ten days after her arrival to our center, she unfortunately passed away secondary to aspiration pneumonitis, sepsis, and toxic brain injury due to nitrobenzene."

Their conclusion was that the brain lesions were caused by toxicity of nitrobenzene rather than hypoxia.

Methemoglobinemia as biomarker and precursor of brain capillary oxidative damage link to ferric iron accumulation and originator of neurodegenerative diseases

OA Text is an independent open-access scientific publisher showcases innovative research and ideas aimed at improving health by linking research and practice to the benefit of society.

www.oatext.com

"Our previously conducted research found that the neonatal jaundice incidence (p=0.034), heart murmur at a later age (p=0.011) and mild disorders in children and adults such as dyslalia and learning/memory impairments (p=0.002) were significantly higher than in children and adults of control mothers without pregnancy methemoglobinemia."

In the end, all methods will result in brain death, that's the aim of any method. People who have posted on here who have called emergency services after ingesting SN have fully recovered so if found in time the effects are reversible. There are no cases that I am aware of where the person has been found after an hour or so when effects on the brain could be seen.

 

[Flight light]

I've noticed you can order sn easily on several sites like Amazon if you look, but is it the right product?

 

[Parsifal64]

what happens if it goes wrong and you survive?

like could you end up as vegetable?

A blue vegetable.

 

[ROKU]

A user sent me a pm and told me that here they sell most of the antiemetics without any medical restriction, this made me bet totally on the sodium nitrite method, so I made a step by step text for me to follow during ctb and I ended up trying explain each step so it an clear the doubts of other people.
I decided to summarize everything I understood about the method by reading mainly the megathread sn, but I read only half as it is very extensive.
Anything that is wrong or missing, please contribute.

one observation is that I did everything based on the drugs in my region, so it will be a little bit to the Brazilians

SODIUM NITRITE METHOD

Reagents:
7 tablets (10mg) of metoclopramide (Plasil)
800 mg cimetidine (2 tablets of 400mg), regulator of stomach acidity (Tagamet)
2 hydroxyzine tablets (Hixizine)
Sodium Nitrite (NaNO2) P.A (> 97%)
100mL of water

Procedure:
1-2 days before the salt is ingested, I will take one metoclopramide tablet every 8 hours.

This is the antiemetic diet, it will not work if you take only one pill or several 30 min before ingesting sn. Antiemetic is necessary to block substances that cause nausea and vomiting, this may happen during ingestion of Sn. I do not know of other antiemetics, but metoclopramide, the Plasil here in my region, was the most indicated, but the users of the forum often speak Primperan. I even discovered that this antiemetic is sold for about 10 reais without prescription. If you live in Brazil, any pharmacy has this medicine. I do not know how to explain it, but the ANVISA files show that it should not be sold without the prescription, even though it is not what is happening. If you also can buy antiemetics without a prescription in your area, speak below.

2 - 8 hours before the ingestion of sn I will go fasting. as I plan to do at 7 in the morning, I must stop eating already at 11 at night.

The stomach needs to be empty to cause greater absorption of nitrite in the body, accelerating the production of methaemoglobin and causing hypoxia, the death of cells because of lack of oxygenation. Some medications on the list cause constipation, it must be hixizine, so I will clean the bowel first (at worst, I can be rescued, it would be wise not to make it difficult for me to stay in the hospital).

3 - 40 minutes before ingesting sn I will take the 800 mg of the antacid (Tagamet).

Nitrite (NO2 ion) is rapidly converted to nitrate (NO3 ion) under acidity and would be ineffective for the method. The stomach is naturally acidic (2 <pH < 2.8 fasted) and when its pH reaches too high, there are complications. In the sn method it seems that many survivors are left without sequelae, so 800 mg of tagamet should make the stomach less acid in a non-dangerous way.
The pharmacology of cimetidine is advanced so I could not establish how much of the stomach pH is raised from 800 mg of tagamet, if I knew how much, I could calculate the amount of sodium bicarbonate (easily found) used instead of buying tagamet. Another antacid could also be used, but I could not estimate the safe amount. Tagamet works after 30 minutes. I prefer to respect the term of effect because according to pubchem nitrite oxidizes to nitrate very quickly in solutions with the pH close to that of the stomach.
If you know how much bicarbonate they use, speak up. What I know about it and the antacids that have this salt in the composition produce CO2 gas in the stomach during neutralization of acidity, which is a disadvantage because during the sn method it can cause stomach pain. farts and burps will be expected too, so I prefer Tagamet. Burps will bother because I'll be lying while I'm waiting for death.

4 - I will take 2 Hixizine tablets.

Hydroxyzine is an antihistamine that can act as a sedative. sedatives are important in this method because people say that there is a headache and can have stomach pain, I can not remember if it happens always or only in some cases, but the sedative will make you sleep. some have said that the sedative also prevents the person from convulsing, but I think if this is going to happen, it will, but you will not feel it and you will be dead before you wake up (the sedative lasts 8 hours). It's 30 minutes to take effect.
some users recommend benzodiazepines, but here I did not research if they were released without a prescription. Clonazepan (Rivotril) I know it's forbidden, others benzodiapzepines should be too. Hixizine is bought without a prescription and costs 40 reais the tablet. I prefer tablets to syrup.
In fact, I do not know how much hixine to use. I do not know how much i would use if it were benzodiazepines as well, but it would use the same amount. I used two pills because the recommendation in the package insert is 1, but since I want to sleep fast, at least 40 minutes after ingesting sn, I will use 2. I am evaluating if a third would be necessary.

5-30 minutes before ingesting sn, I will take one metoclopramide tablet.

30 minutes is the time the last tablet takes effect, as a final protection againist nauseas

6 - I will open the sodium nitrite package and measure approximately 15 g of solid and make a solution with 100 ml of water in a glass. I can already take it.

Sodium nitrite should be kept in a closed container, if it is in a plastic bag, which is free of air because it slowly oxidizes to nitrate.
to measure 15 g of nitrite without balance I thought of two methods: 1, put the solid to the edge of a 15 ml measuring spoon and then put a little more, since because of the air between the particles, there may be less amount of sn in the measure. this way you guarantee that there are 15 g recommended and a little more. I am afraid of too much and cause seizures (this may happen, but it seems that it is not a rule) and 2, measure approximately 13 mL of water with a measuring instrument (such as the measurement spoon, in which case it will be more accurate for volumes of liquids). After solubility calculations, 13 mL will dissolve 15 g of NaNO2 so you can add and stir a lot with the spoon, when you notice that the solid does not dissolve more even with much agitation, there are 15 g of sn in the liquid. Remove the solid from the bottom of the container if there is too much and then complete the solution formed with water until all the liquid has 100 mL.
On the other hand, I read in the megathread sn that 10 g is the fatal amount of nitrite in the body and that in fact each person owns the amount that will make the body go into bankruptcy for up to 45 minutes. Some people used little sn and died after 8 hours, others used too much and had seizures, so 15g is a general nitrite base to be ingested, it does not have to be the exact measurement.
PPhill recommends between 50 and 100 mL of water, but I will use 100 mL because I have read cases of people who have felt throat burning because of the high concentration of salt in the solution.

7 - I will lie on my back in the center of a double bed, knowing that no one will bother me for hours, in light clothes, maybe shirtless and make sure there's a draft of cool air on me with a mobile fan.

PPhill says that the person sleeps and it is not painful, but that I remember all the reports I read was of people who went wrong and felt some weird pain. maybe this will cause me to increase to 3 the number of hixizine tablets. But anyway, I'll wait for my body to try to expel sodium nitrite and suffer some symptoms like nausea and stomach pain, I'll have to put up with it. the ventilation will help to resist pain if it occurs because it keeps the body cool, usually it is sweating a lot.

8 - Catch the buss.

Notes: According to PPhill, a person falls asleep after 30 minutes after ingesting sn and dies in 45 minutes.

A man ingested 22 g of sn, passed badly and called the ambulance 5 minutes after being rescued, this shows that it must be bad to bear (but nothing says whether or not he did the sn method or just ingested without all the other medications) . Anyway, it was calculated that he had fucking 90% methemoglobin in the blood and after 24 hours that amount was drastically reduced and he is without sequelae but went to the psychiatric wing.

Buying sn by amazon / ebay / mercado livre is dangerous because it can be any salt being titled sodium nitrite and can have any purity. if the purity is too low, it will take hours to die. chemical industry sites sell these products via the Internet and are more reliable.



I hope it will be useful to other people.


Links I quoted:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-1

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/sodium_nitrite#section=Pharmacology-and-Biochemistry

PPhill but I do not have the link = P

Is NaNO3 the same as NANO2?

 

[InevitablePattern91]

Is NaNO3 the same as NANO2?

No.

NaNo2 = Sodium Nitrite
NaNo3 = Sodium Nitrate

The SN used in the method is NaNo2

 

[ROKU]

No.

NaNo2 = Sodium Nitrite
NaNo3 = Sodium Nitrate

The SN used in the method is NaNo2

TY...I am searching

 

[falloutcarter13]

Thank you for taking the time to make this detailed description. I was wondering if sniffing chloroform fumes after ingesting sn would help knock someone out inorder to not feel the pain that may occur after if xanex doesn't work which is what I'm planning to use? It's supposably easy to make. Just mix bleach with either acetone, isopropyl or ethanol alcohol.

I've been thinking about substances to possibly use to go unconscious faster after taking the SN, as well. I don't have access to much, definitely not chloroform. I briefly thought about an inhalant like the canned air/keyboard duster shit...I had a gf who abused that stuff, and she'd go out cold, seizing and gasping for 1-2 minutes and have absolutely no memory of any pain or discomfort, only pleasure (which would cause her to do it again.) I have two issues with this though. One is that I don't want to go unconscious, immediately puke up the SN, and not wake up in time to take more doses. The second is just cosmetic, I don't want to look like a junkie when I'm found, and I don't want family to think I only did it because I was high on computer duster lol. If you have any ideas about increasing time to unconsciousness that are *easy* to source, I'd love to hear em. Thanks in advance!!

 

[Shu]

I've been thinking about substances to possibly use to go unconscious faster after taking the SN, as well. I don't have access to much, definitely not chloroform. I briefly thought about an inhalant like the canned air/keyboard duster shit...I had a gf who abused that stuff, and she'd go out cold, seizing and gasping for 1-2 minutes and have absolutely no memory of any pain or discomfort, only pleasure (which would cause her to do it again.) I have two issues with this though. One is that I don't want to go unconscious, immediately puke up the SN, and not wake up in time to take more doses. The second is just cosmetic, I don't want to look like a junkie when I'm found, and I don't want family to think I only did it because I was high on computer duster lol. If you have any ideas about increasing time to unconsciousness that are *easy* to source, I'd love to hear em. Thanks in advance!!

Bump I am actually curious about this also. The duster after drinking SN

 

[👁️👃👁️]

H.

A user sent me a pm and told me that here they sell most of the antiemetics without any medical restriction, this made me bet totally on the sodium nitrite method, so I made a step by step text for me to follow during ctb and I ended up trying explain each step so it an clear the doubts of other people.
I decided to summarize everything I understood about the method by reading mainly the megathread sn, but I read only half as it is very extensive.
Anything that is wrong or missing, please contribute.

one observation is that I did everything based on the drugs in my region, so it will be a little bit to the Brazilians

SODIUM NITRITE METHOD

Reagents:
7 tablets (10mg) of metoclopramide (Plasil)
800 mg cimetidine (2 tablets of 400mg), regulator of stomach acidity (Tagamet)
2 hydroxyzine tablets (Hixizine)
Sodium Nitrite (NaNO2) P.A (> 97%)
100mL of water

Procedure:
1-2 days before the salt is ingested, I will take one metoclopramide tablet every 8 hours.

This is the antiemetic diet, it will not work if you take only one pill or several 30 min before ingesting sn. Antiemetic is necessary to block substances that cause nausea and vomiting, this may happen during ingestion of Sn. I do not know of other antiemetics, but metoclopramide, the Plasil here in my region, was the most indicated, but the users of the forum often speak Primperan. I even discovered that this antiemetic is sold for about 10 reais without prescription. If you live in Brazil, any pharmacy has this medicine. I do not know how to explain it, but the ANVISA files show that it should not be sold without the prescription, even though it is not what is happening. If you also can buy antiemetics without a prescription in your area, speak below.

2 - 8 hours before the ingestion of sn I will go fasting. as I plan to do at 7 in the morning, I must stop eating already at 11 at night.

The stomach needs to be empty to cause greater absorption of nitrite in the body, accelerating the production of methaemoglobin and causing hypoxia, the death of cells because of lack of oxygenation. Some medications on the list cause constipation, it must be hixizine, so I will clean the bowel first (at worst, I can be rescued, it would be wise not to make it difficult for me to stay in the hospital).

3 - 40 minutes before ingesting sn I will take the 800 mg of the antacid (Tagamet).

Nitrite (NO2 ion) is rapidly converted to nitrate (NO3 ion) under acidity and would be ineffective for the method. The stomach is naturally acidic (2 <pH < 2.8 fasted) and when its pH reaches too high, there are complications. In the sn method it seems that many survivors are left without sequelae, so 800 mg of tagamet should make the stomach less acid in a non-dangerous way.
The pharmacology of cimetidine is advanced so I could not establish how much of the stomach pH is raised from 800 mg of tagamet, if I knew how much, I could calculate the amount of sodium bicarbonate (easily found) used instead of buying tagamet. Another antacid could also be used, but I could not estimate the safe amount. Tagamet works after 30 minutes. I prefer to respect the term of effect because according to pubchem nitrite oxidizes to nitrate very quickly in solutions with the pH close to that of the stomach.
If you know how much bicarbonate they use, speak up. What I know about it and the antacids that have this salt in the composition produce CO2 gas in the stomach during neutralization of acidity, which is a disadvantage because during the sn method it can cause stomach pain. farts and burps will be expected too, so I prefer Tagamet. Burps will bother because I'll be lying while I'm waiting for death.

4 - I will take 2 Hixizine tablets.

Hydroxyzine is an antihistamine that can act as a sedative. sedatives are important in this method because people say that there is a headache and can have stomach pain, I can not remember if it happens always or only in some cases, but the sedative will make you sleep. some have said that the sedative also prevents the person from convulsing, but I think if this is going to happen, it will, but you will not feel it and you will be dead before you wake up (the sedative lasts 8 hours). It's 30 minutes to take effect.
some users recommend benzodiazepines, but here I did not research if they were released without a prescription. Clonazepan (Rivotril) I know it's forbidden, others benzodiapzepines should be too. Hixizine is bought without a prescription and costs 40 reais the tablet. I prefer tablets to syrup.
In fact, I do not know how much hixine to use. I do not know how much i would use if it were benzodiazepines as well, but it would use the same amount. I used two pills because the recommendation in the package insert is 1, but since I want to sleep fast, at least 40 minutes after ingesting sn, I will use 2. I am evaluating if a third would be necessary.

5-30 minutes before ingesting sn, I will take one metoclopramide tablet.

30 minutes is the time the last tablet takes effect, as a final protection againist nauseas

6 - I will open the sodium nitrite package and measure approximately 15 g of solid and make a solution with 100 ml of water in a glass. I can already take it.

Sodium nitrite should be kept in a closed container, if it is in a plastic bag, which is free of air because it slowly oxidizes to nitrate.
to measure 15 g of nitrite without balance I thought of two methods: 1, put the solid to the edge of a 15 ml measuring spoon and then put a little more, since because of the air between the particles, there may be less amount of sn in the measure. this way you guarantee that there are 15 g recommended and a little more. I am afraid of too much and cause seizures (this may happen, but it seems that it is not a rule) and 2, measure approximately 13 mL of water with a measuring instrument (such as the measurement spoon, in which case it will be more accurate for volumes of liquids). After solubility calculations, 13 mL will dissolve 15 g of NaNO2 so you can add and stir a lot with the spoon, when you notice that the solid does not dissolve more even with much agitation, there are 15 g of sn in the liquid. Remove the solid from the bottom of the container if there is too much and then complete the solution formed with water until all the liquid has 100 mL.
On the other hand, I read in the megathread sn that 10 g is the fatal amount of nitrite in the body and that in fact each person owns the amount that will make the body go into bankruptcy for up to 45 minutes. Some people used little sn and died after 8 hours, others used too much and had seizures, so 15g is a general nitrite base to be ingested, it does not have to be the exact measurement.
PPhill recommends between 50 and 100 mL of water, but I will use 100 mL because I have read cases of people who have felt throat burning because of the high concentration of salt in the solution.

7 - I will lie on my back in the center of a double bed, knowing that no one will bother me for hours, in light clothes, maybe shirtless and make sure there's a draft of cool air on me with a mobile fan.

PPhill says that the person sleeps and it is not painful, but that I remember all the reports I read was of people who went wrong and felt some weird pain. maybe this will cause me to increase to 3 the number of hixizine tablets. But anyway, I'll wait for my body to try to expel sodium nitrite and suffer some symptoms like nausea and stomach pain, I'll have to put up with it. the ventilation will help to resist pain if it occurs because it keeps the body cool, usually it is sweating a lot.

8 - Catch the buss.

Notes: According to PPhill, a person falls asleep after 30 minutes after ingesting sn and dies in 45 minutes.

A man ingested 22 g of sn, passed badly and called the ambulance 5 minutes after being rescued, this shows that it must be bad to bear (but nothing says whether or not he did the sn method or just ingested without all the other medications) . Anyway, it was calculated that he had fucking 90% methemoglobin in the blood and after 24 hours that amount was drastically reduced and he is without sequelae but went to the psychiatric wing.

Buying sn online is dangerous because it can be any salt being titled sodium nitrite and can have any purity. if the purity is too low, it will take hours to die. chemical industry sites sell these products via the Internet and are more reliable.



I hope it will be useful to other people.


Links I quoted:
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-megathread.1156/page-1

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/sodium_nitrite#section=Pharmacology-and-Biochemistry

PPhill but I do not have the link = P

Hi.



Wow. The sn Method had changed very much since this. Not they say 3 metoclopramide & no antacids ?