Resource SN megathread

[Vegrau]

I can't use a hotel unfortunately because after my first failed attempt (not sn) my family is keeping a reeeally close eye on me :/

I see. Well usually its survivable because the person who attempted it is found 2/3 hours after they ingested sn. Whether they follow all the steps or not. Or whether they ingested the right amount of sn. That I cannot say. But if you really want to try it make sure you follow all the steps and hope for the best. We will never know unless we try. Also read up some reference in this site op.

Also hope someone can fact check me.

 

[Kingkelly]

I hope it doesn't take 2 or 3,hours to die.

 

[Cody111]

Bunch of studys and info some people may find interesting.

https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+757

 

[throwaway777]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-nitrite-attempt.2902/page-2#post-48772

im really confused ...can we make some clarity on the timing please ?

 

[Cody111]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sodium-nitrite-attempt.2902/page-2#post-48772

im really confused ...can we make some clarity on the timing please ?

https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen
Look in the antiemetic options tab.
Has recommendations for regimen or single dose. But id give it an hour. For them to work.

Thats just the antiemetics. No info on the antacid in there.

 

[throwaway777]

https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen
Look in the antiemetic options tab.
Has recommendations for regimen or single dose. But id give it an hour. For them to work.

Thats just the antiemetics. No info on the antacid in there.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-failed-attempt.4919/ ..axorz took meto 30 min before the sn and then he puked .. so 30 min are definetely not enough for the antiemetic to work.. so could we say that 1 hour before the sn could be the best option?

 

[Cody111]

If you look at the tables in the link provided it has some of the key players recommendations (may be outdated).
But yeah id say a solid hour.

 

[Cody111]

Ahh.. this i assume is for N too not SN...

 

[Arak]

Methemoglobin reductase for humans versus pigs ...

(Original: reponse to a post in a different thread) I was looking around a bit. A book I could only access as ´google books´ and since i´m not going to give you my URL I´ll do it this way: book ´Principles of Animal Extrapolation´ (1991) table 7-4 spontaneous methemoglobin reductase pigs 0.09 compared to humans (1) Some animals like cats and sheep have a higher number than humans.

I find https://www.environment.gov.au/syst...files/pigs-sodium-nitrite-risk-assessment.rtf a bit confusing. gavage, though.

Stepping sideways https://exitinternational.net/docs/NuTechnitrite2.pdf SN: holy grail or hollow promise (2018)

Not the best source: https://www.environment.gov.au/syst...f30a/files/sodium-nitrite-risk-assessment.pdf

Table 2: those saltwater crocodiles certainly can tolerate SN ! And why take SN if you're in Australia and have those crocodiles at hand ...

Another variable obviously is how quickly those enzymes work. I'll leave it at this for now. I haven't seen a solid scientific foundation for SN.

 

[Vegrau]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-failed-attempt.4919/ ..axorz took meto 30 min before the sn and then he puked .. so 30 min are definetely not enough for the antiemetic to work.. so could we say that 1 hour before the sn could be the best option?

Some start taking antiemetic 1 or 2 days before taking sn. Maybe thats for the best .

 

[bigj75]

so does SN work or no?

 

[MsM3talGamer]

so does SN work or no?

Geesuicide CTBed with SN on Wednesday evening. Seems like it works if done properly with anti-emetics so you don't throw up. I asked her about it and she had started taking Meto for 3 days prior. There was an article about her in the papers the next day which means she was successful.

 

[Arak]

SN continued

https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@term+@DOCNO+757

'The first symptoms of oral nitrite poisoning develop within 15 to 45 minutes.' A bit of a range, isn't it ? The odds are high that it won't be a fast, lethal toxin. That tagamet is a bit of a guess, isn't it ?

http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/chemical/pimg016.htm#SectionTitle:7.1 Mode of action

'The lethal oral dose of nitrite for adults has been variously reported to be between 0.7 and 6 g NO2- '
'In contrast, an adult survived without lasting problems after ingestion of 9.7 g NO2- (as sodium nitrite) (Vetter, 1951).'

'Acute poisoning Clinical symptoms may include: nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, headache, dizziness, fall in blood pressure, tachycardia, collapse, bluish-grey cyanosis, hyperventilation, stupor, convulsions, coma and death.'

https://meatsci.osu.edu/sites/meatsci/files/imce/BorchertCassensNitriteHazard1998.pdf

'probable oral lethal dose in humans being 50-500 mg/kg' 60 kg> 30 gr

I absolutely hate this stuff. Very difficult to get reliable data. I get the feeling that if it doesn't work quickly (and it may not) you need balls of steel to avoid 'seeking help' while suffering a slow death. Don't forget the killer headaches and more. It's almost always easily reversible with methylene blue.

I think they can write on my tombstone 'never trust a doctor'.

 

[Jadon91]

Yes, the anti emetic regime is also important. The things I don't understand is that if I should make also a acid reducer regime or is less important than meto.

 

[Jadon91]

Geesuicide CTBed with SN on Wednesday evening. Seems like it works if done properly with anti-emetics so you don't throw up. I asked her about it and she had started taking Meto for 3 days prior. There was an article about her in the papers the next day which means she was successful.

What type of acid reducer did she took? If you know, obviously.

 

[MsM3talGamer]

What type of acid reducer did she took? If you know, obviously.

Sorry, no idea.

 

[Gainax]

i think the regimen can be something like this
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen

Dr. Nitschke's advice

Day --Time--Material

Day 1 00.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 1 08.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 1 16.00 2*10mg primperan

Day 2 00.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 2 08.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 2 16.00 2*10mg primperan

Day 3 00.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 3 08.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 3 16.00 2*10mg primperan

Day 4 00.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 4 00.20 3*75mg ranitidine or 800mg tagament
Day 4 01.00 15g SN + 100ml tap water

 

[Jadon91]

i think the regimen can be something like this
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen

Dr. Nitschke's advice

Day --Time--Material

Day 1 00.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 1 08.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 1 16.00 2*10mg primperan

Day 2 00.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 2 08.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 2 16.00 2*10mg primperan

Day 3 00.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 3 08.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 3 16.00 2*10mg primperan

Day 4 00.00 2*10mg primperan
Day 4 00.20 3*75mg ranitidine or 800mg tagament
Day 4 01.00 15g SN + 100ml tap water

10 mg of meto instead 20 mg in the regimen is the same?
Can I take Omeprazole (is stronger but idn if can do the trick in this method) instead cimetdine and ranitidine?

 

[Kingkelly]

Guys I'm so dumb I got sodium nitrate not nitrite ugh lol so here I am getting all my stuff and realize ive had nitrate this whole time. Lol almost tried to CBT on nitrate just thought I'd share that so someone else doesn't make the mistake.

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

What type of acid reducer did she took? If you know, obviously.

Refer to page 1 of this thread for instructions. Anybody that has completed this method with metocloprimide antiemetic and tagamet or zantac acid reducer 100% has not returned.

 

[Lifeisatrap]

Guys I'm so dumb I got sodium nitrate not nitrite ugh lol so here I am getting all my stuff and realize ive had nitrate this whole time. Lol almost tried to CBT on nitrate just thought I'd share that so someone else doesn't make the mistake.

I made the same mistake when I first got it too. Had to go all the way back to the only place that has it twice after that since they were all out the first time. I thought it was the perfect method before I learned of the whole fasting/antiacid and antiemetic regime that goes with it. Would have used it sooner but living with people make it impossible to stick to that regime and get all the supplies needed so I'm still stuck here with no peace of mind:(

 

[Kingkelly]

I made the same mistake when I first got it too. Had to go all the way back to the only place that has it twice after that since they were all out the first time. I thought it was the perfect method before I learned of the whole fasting/antiacid and antiemetic regime that goes with it. Would have used it sooner but living with people make it impossible to stick to that regime and get all the supplies needed so I'm still stuck here with no peace of mind:(

I'm glad I'm not the only one...I hope your situation gets better

 

[Kdawg2018]

Which SN in US is good to order?

 

[Jadon91]

Refer to page 1 of this thread for instructions. Anybody that has completed this method with metocloprimide antiemetic and tagamet or zantac acid reducer 100% has not returned.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-failed-attempt.4919/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-is-time.8345/

In these cases the attempt failed even with antiemetic, maybe the antiemetic and even acid reducer regimen (nobody knows if this is fundamental) could make it better.
For this reason this method is very stressful. You must start your suicide a days prior, it isn't a instinctive and immediate method. You would have a growing anxiety.

I read about three users here who hadn't make antiemetic regimen and they have not returned. However, three cases do not give absolute certainty.

 

[Lunaemoth]

Does anyone know how alcohol can affect it? Not at the exact same time or taking sn with alcohol, just drinking that day or the day before? I plan to start my antiemetic a couple of days before, but I was also going to have wine... I don't want to mess it up tho.

 

[Monday]

Refer to page 1 of this thread for instructions. Anybody that has completed this method with metocloprimide antiemetic and tagamet or zantac acid reducer 100% has not returned.

So I should be good with tagamet and zantac? I really don't want to see a doctor despite legitamentally having nausea daily lol.

Also do I 100% need to fast or just eat less and take the pills like suggested above?
I'm pretty much sold on this method if I can get everything.

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-failed-attempt.4919/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/it-is-time.8345/

In these cases the attempt failed even with antiemetic, maybe the antiemetic and even acid reducer regimen (nobody knows if this is fundamental) could make it better.
For this reason this method is very stressful. You must start your suicide a days prior, it isn't a instinctive and immediate method. You would have a growing anxiety.

I read about three users here who hadn't make antiemetic regimen and they have not returned. However, three cases do not give absolute certainty.

In the first case the person was saved.

In the second case the person hasn't logged in since the day of attempt.

The 1/2 hour mentioned in the pph isn't long enough wait 1 hour after taking meto and tagamet.

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

So I should be good with tagamet and zantac? I really don't want to see a doctor despite legitamentally having nausea daily lol.

Also do I 100% need to fast or just eat less and take the pills like suggested above?
I'm pretty much sold on this method if I can get everything.

You need metocloprimide and tagamet or, zantac (tagamet is prescription in europe). Meto is on eBay.uk under the primperin brand name from Greece. Page 1 of this thread gives directions.

 

[Justanotherconsumer]

Does anyone know how alcohol can affect it? Not at the exact same time or taking sn with alcohol, just drinking that day or the day before? I plan to start my antiemetic a couple of days before, but I was also going to have wine... I don't want to mess it up tho.

Does anyone know how alcohol can affect it? Not at the exact same time or taking sn with alcohol, just drinking that day or the day before? I plan to start my antiemetic a couple of days before, but I was also going to have wine... I don't want to mess it up tho.

Alcohol itself won't have any effect, in very minor cases vitamin C has been used as an antidote for metHB.

 

[therhydler]

Do I have a good shot at the SN method if I am home alone for 8 hours max or would going to the hospital after 8 hours definitely save me?