Resource SN megathread

[ascarto]

The latest PPH Guide doesn't recommended the use of antacids or acid regulators, I wonder this thread recommends it, is it needed?

 

[Fulminare]

Hello Fulminare! I was hoping you would be able to DM me the source as well. I've decided on my regimen; just need to acquire the supplies :(

I'm sorry bud, but my source is sold out.

 

[PleaseHelpMi]

How much propranolol are you ment to take. It doesn't say in stans guide

I don't think you are meant to take propanol. Painkiller 1,000mg and antiemetic 30mg. That's all.

The latest PPH Guide doesn't recommended the use of antacids or acid regulators, I wonder this thread recommends it, is it needed?

People here too think it's not needed. I too am not planning on taking them.

 

[Emmanuel108]

I don't think you are meant to take propanol. Painkiller 1,000mg and antiemetic 30mg. That's all.

People here too think it's not needed. I too am not planning on taking them.

Thank you

 

[Kta1994]

Guys is domperidone, Ondansetron, clonazepam (sublingual),cimetidine, propanolol really enough to ctb? I was thinking of chewing ginger And cannabis oil to make sure i dont throw up along with the domperidone

 

[cannotdothis]

Is this considered to be a painless option?

 

[Onw9]

Will this work stat?

12/14 or 8hr fast
3hr dry fast

1hr before 600mg ibuprofen
45min before 3×10mg meto
40min before 300mg propanol crushed
SN

 

[Dry-Finding7733]

Yeah, so I am either incapable of searching the DN or just don't know where to look because I still cant find a reliable source for Meto. AT this point, is it really necessary?? Like can't i just smoke a bit before taking the SN and be fine? (I am not knowledgeable about the science behind the SN method so feel free to respond, etc.)

 

[ascarto]

Yeah, so I am either incapable of searching the DN or just don't know where to look because I still cant find a reliable source for Meto. AT this point, is it really necessary?? Like can't i just smoke a bit before taking the SN and be fine? (I am not knowledgeable about the science behind the SN method so feel free to respond, etc.)

I was lucky enough to be able to order Meto from dokteronline.com via Germany

Some sedatives would be nice for the protocol but those seem rather difficult to get ones hands on

 

[FireWalkWithMe]

I was lucky enough to be able to order Meto from dokteronline.com via Germany

Some sedatives would be nice for the protocol but those seem rather difficult to get ones hands on

To be honest you could probably get benzos off the street with no bother. When you're not planning on living it doesn't really matter if they're not exactly what they say on the tin. They do the job.

 

[Kobusu]

Dot has trauma that causes them to type in such a manner. The hostility was way unnecessary.

 

[PleaseHelpMi]

Hey i wanted to know something about the blood test. I know sn should turn chocolatey brown. But how much blood and sn are needed for that? I was thinking of using a safety pin to prick my finger but when I tried it went through the skin but no blood came out. Maybe I need to push it deeper? Also wouldn't only a few drops come out this way? Is that enough? Should I try something else? Like maybe a paper cutter (the one where a blade slides in and out of plastic). Btw the sn says it's 96% pure min and has 4 other compounds that are 0.002-0.03% max. Finally it says 10% aqueous solution - Clear. How brown should I expect with this?

 

[AnonymousRobin]

Hey i wanted to know something about the blood test. I know sn should turn chocolatey brown. But how much blood and sn are needed for that? I was thinking of using a safety pin to prick my finger but when I tried it went through the skin but no blood came out. Maybe I need to push it deeper? Also wouldn't only a few drops come out this way? Is that enough? Should I try something else? Like maybe a paper cutter (the one where a blade slides in and out of plastic). Btw the sn says it's 96% pure min and has 4 other compounds that are 0.002-0.03% max. Finally it says 10% aqueous solution - Clear. How brown should I expect with this?

only a small ammount, probably about a teaspoon if not a bit less as long as theres enough to be able to see it should be okay because all blood regardless of the ammount has haemoglobin which is what sn converts to methemoglobin

 

[PleaseHelpMi]

only a small ammount, probably about a teaspoon if not a bit less as long as theres enough to be able to see it should be okay because all blood regardless of the ammount has haemoglobin which is what sn converts to methemoglobin

I see. Thanks for that. Also how do I get the blood out? Like I said I tried with safety pin but stopped after it pierced skin and no blood came out. Maybe I should try harder. I want to be know if it will actually work since i don't like unnecessary pain much. My reason to ctb is my physical condition which already causes a lot of pain. Should I try a different way like the paper cutter i mentioned or something else?

Btw the salt is white crystalline and a bit cakey/clumpy (just a little bit.) It looks genuine. Or atleast that's what I want to believe.

 

[AnonymousRobin]

I see. Thanks for that. Also how do I get the blood out? Like I said I tried with safety pin but stopped after it pierced skin and no blood came out. Maybe I should try harder. I want to be know if it will actually work since i don't like unnecessary pain much. My reason to ctb is my physical condition which already causes a lot of pain. Should I try a different way like the paper cutter i mentioned or something else?

Btw the salt is white crystalline and a bit cakey/clumpy (just a little bit.) It looks genuine. Or atleast that's what I want to believe.

sorry i should have addressed your full question (≧︿≦) im not very comfortable giving advice on how to harm yourself. but you just need a small ammount of blood maybe make a small cut on the upper arm or finger i wouldnt use a pin as it makes a very small cut and that clots very quickly. try not to expose the sn to oxygen too often as nitrite naturally develops into nitrate when exposed it probably wont be an issue but just something to avoid the clumps are natural but also occurs when exposed due to moisture

 

[PleaseHelpMi]

sorry i should have addressed your full question (≧︿≦) im not very comfortable giving advice on how to harm yourself. but you just need a small ammount of blood maybe make a small cut on the upper arm or finger i wouldnt use a pin as it makes a very small cut and that clots very quickly. try not to expose the sn to oxygen too often as nitrite naturally develops into nitrate when exposed it probably wont be an issue but just something to avoid the clumps are natural but also occurs when exposed due to moisture

Thanks. I also dislike self harm. Like I said my physical condition is already painful enough. But I need to do the blood test so that I can confirm if it is usable or not and put my mind at rest. I'll try a cut on upper arm using a cutter knife then. In 1-2 days though since I am done for today. I opened it and took out sn quickly and then closed it. Though I'll have to take it out again to do it again. Will it become unusable it it clumps due to moisture? how will oxygen make it worse? Someone on this thread told me that it won't be a problem even if I open it multiple times and even if it clumps i need to just break it before using it.

 

[lukas19]

Yeah, so I am either incapable of searching the DN or just don't know where to look because I still cant find a reliable source for Meto. AT this point, is it really necessary?? Like can't i just smoke a bit before taking the SN and be fine? (I am not knowledgeable about the science behind the SN method so feel free to respond, etc.)

Yes,
You can smoke before taking SN and you will be dead/fine. In Stan's thread smoking weed is suggested to calm your stomach if you want (it's optional as some people don't like weed)

 

[AnonymousRobin]

Thanks. I also dislike self harm. Like I said my physical condition is already painful enough. But I need to do the blood test so that I can confirm if it is usable or not and put my mind at rest. I'll try a cut on upper arm using paper cutter then. In 1-2 days though since I am done for today. I opened it and took out sn quickly and then closed it. Though I'll have to take it out again to do it again. Will it become unusable it it clumps due to moisture? how will oxygen make it worse? Someone on this thread told me that it won't be a problem even if I open it multiple times and even if it clumps i need to just break it before using it.

you can still use it when it clumps mine in the past did and it just made it slightly hard to measure out but will be okay. its best to not expose it to oxygen but it shouldnt be an issue.

 

[PleaseHelpMi]

you can still use it when it clumps mine in the past did and it just made it slightly hard to measure out but will be okay. its best to not expose it to oxygen but it shouldnt be an issue.

Thanks for the replies. I'll tell you when I finish testing it. It might be tomorrow or it might be a few more days depending on when I get the next opportunity to be alone at home.

Will this work stat?

12/14 or 8hr fast
3hr dry fast

1hr before 600mg ibuprofen
45min before 3×10mg meto
40min before 300mg propanol crushed
SN

Not sure about propanol. It isn't recommended anymore as far as I know. The other stuff is okay.

Is this considered to be a painless option?

Yeah as far i know it is mostly painless. Though there are chances of shortness of breath, nausea, a bit of headache etc.

 

[melancholyc418]

Can someone explain to me why PPeH recommends basically overdosing on benzos. It just casually mentions like 30 tabs if Diazepam but that is like overdosing. Is that to make you unconscious?

 

[lebrodude]

Can someone explain to me why PPeH recommends basically overdosing on benzos. It just casually mentions like 30 tabs if Diazepam but that is like overdosing. Is that to make you unconscious?

Yeah I'm a bit confused about this too.

I mean I get the idea that a benzo od would knock you out, but I think trying to keep the SN down would be hard enough on it's own never mind taking both at the same time.

Plus if you do vomit pretty quickly then you'll be vomiting up the benzo too. Maybe take it 20-30 minutes before ? I'm not sure!

 

[leeloosnow]

personally, and ive eaten a shit ton of benzos before (attempted OD's, recreational, etc) i dont think that many is necessary. I had one time tried taking some hulk bar xannies and i forgot about my sn. it sucked. so, i will take enuf to knock me out, after i mix it up, but before i take it. not an absurd amount (tolerance adjusted)

 

[cryptobaltic]

Does anyone know what the success rate is for the SN method? I'm thinking of doing it this weekend but just a few last minute questions popping up

 

[FireWalkWithMe]

Does anyone know what the success rate is for the SN method? I'm thinking of doing it this weekend but just a few last minute questions popping up

Don't think there are going to be exact figures on that. Only that the handbook mentions observing around 20 deaths using the method.

What you don't get from that is the total successes, total failures and most importantly, who is following the regime precisely. There just isn't the data there sadly.

Anecdotally, I am yet to see the person that follows what the instructions actually say coming back to say they failed. It tends to be those that reinvent the wheel if you look back through the descriptions.

 

[cryptobaltic]

Don't think there are going to be exact figures on that. Only that the handbook mentions observing around 20 deaths using the method.

What you don't get from that is the total successes, total failures and most importantly, who is following the regime precisely. There just isn't the data there sadly.

Anecdotally, I am yet to see the person that follows what the instructions actually say coming back to say they failed. It tends to be those that reinvent the wheel if you look back through the descriptions.

So if I fast, take my SN at 25g with a backup ready just in case, I should be able to be successful? Also, as gross as this sounds, would it still work if I have an empty cup to throw up in and just man up and drink that down, would that be the same as just ingesting the drug all over again?
Hey guys sorry, Im known to procrastinate, but I've gotten a hotel for me to not be found to early, I booked it out until Tuesday, what is the max latest I have to take it and not be found too early on that Tuesday when my checkout is at 11:00am, and if I did it correctly and successful, I will already be gone

 

[EndlessDream]

So if I fast, take my SN at 25g with a backup ready just in case, I should be able to be successful? Also, as gross as this sounds, would it still work if I have an empty cup to throw up in and just man up and drink that down, would that be the same as just ingesting the drug all over again?
Hey guys sorry, Im known to procrastinate, but I've gotten a hotel for me to not be found to early, I booked it out until Tuesday, what is the max latest I have to take it and not be found too early on that Tuesday when my checkout is at 11:00am, and if I did it correctly and successful, I will already be gone

Usually around an hour assuming you don't throw up a whole lot (anti-emetics required).

Page 116 of TPP (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/pph-essentials-2022.107973/) for an observed timeline:
- Around 40 minutes for death

It'll be around 12 minutes of developing uncomfortable symptoms until unconsciousness. "Lethargy, confusion, intoxication, nausea and vomiting - all before consciousness is lost".

Should be able to slurp your puke back up, it'll still have some diluted SN in it.

 

[FireWalkWithMe]

So if I fast, take my SN at 25g with a backup ready just in case, I should be able to be successful? Also, as gross as this sounds, would it still work if I have an empty cup to throw up in and just man up and drink that down, would that be the same as just ingesting the drug all over again?
Hey guys sorry, Im known to procrastinate, but I've gotten a hotel for me to not be found to early, I booked it out until Tuesday, what is the max latest I have to take it and not be found too early on that Tuesday when my checkout is at 11:00am, and if I did it correctly and successful, I will already be gone

It should be successful. The odds would likely be increased by an anti emetic simply because you will keep more down. Not having an AE is diverging from the guidelines, unfortunately. I know they can be frustrating for some people to get but you can get them online.

It's worth considering that some people find it very hard to get down another glass, whether that be because they're incapacitated or the thought of drinking another glass of the thing poisoning your body. It can cause quite a visceral reaction which I wouldn't underestimate. I'm sure it's possible with determination, but in my view it makes an AE more important to try and limit the requirement to do this if possible.

 

[cryptobaltic]

It should be successful. The odds would likely be increased by an anti emetic simply because you will keep more down. Not having an AE is diverging from the guidelines, unfortunately. I know they can be frustrating for some people to get but you can get them online.

It's worth considering that some people find it very hard to get down another glass, whether that be because they're incapacitated or the thought of drinking another glass of the thing poisoning your body. It can cause quite a visceral reaction which I wouldn't underestimate. I'm sure it's possible with determination, but in my view it makes an AE more important to try and limit the requirement to do this if possible.

So I've been told from many people both things. Some say it's not required for AE, and others saying it is, with people in between sayings it's highly recommended. The reason I ask is because I'm too ready to leave this shit life I've made for myself, I can't go on going through withdrawals, being broke in days, my car is driving on a broken wheel bearing so never knowing when I'll be stranded, that and other repairs topping at $7200 which of course I don't have any my family, gf and friends being done with me in their life. I need to do this soon.
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It should be successful. The odds would likely be increased by an anti emetic simply because you will keep more down. Not having an AE is diverging from the guidelines, unfortunately. I know they can be frustrating for some people to get but you can get them online.

It's worth considering that some people find it very hard to get down another glass, whether that be because they're incapacitated or the thought of drinking another glass of the thing poisoning your body. It can cause quite a visceral reaction which I wouldn't underestimate. I'm sure it's possible with determination, but in my view it makes an AE more important to try and limit the requirement to do this if possible.

Need be could I tape something over my mouth to where even if I do throw up it has nowhere to go?

 

[FireWalkWithMe]

So I've been told from many people both things. Some say it's not required for AE, and others saying it is, with people in between sayings it's highly recommended. The reason I ask is because I'm too ready to leave this shit life I've made for myself, I can't go on going through withdrawals, being broke in days, my car is driving on a broken wheel bearing so never knowing when I'll be stranded, that and other repairs topping at $7200 which of course I don't have any my family, gf and friends being done with me in their life. I need to do this soon.
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Need be could I tape something over my mouth to where even if I do throw up it has nowhere to go?

I think highly recommended is probably correct. People have been successful without - the AE is not a mechanism of CTB after all, it is just to help keep the SN down. The difficulty is you have no idea how your body will respond until you're in that situation.

Ultimately it's your call. Only you can make the decision of what you're happy to do as far as medication. Depends on your risk tolerance.

 

[melancholyc418]

Apprecjate the insight people are giving about the benzos, but anyone really onow the reason. If I take 30 benzos while taking the SN wouldnt I vomit unconsciously