Resource SN megathread

[medusa]

I am sorry to hear about your chronic pains. Do you have a pain doc to control your symptoms? And yes, with cancer at least there is an end and if I can be bothered to wait, i could also go via Dignitas.

So far the doctors have been unsuccessful in controlling my pain-migraines and neuroma pain from my feet.
I totally feel you on this-I would also end it before cancer does. My fiance's father killed himself because of cancer and it was not pretty-in the end he could barely get up and so he took a massive morphine overdose.

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

What about amounium nitrate or potassium nitrate, I have access to plenty of both

From what I learn, they are not recommended as end of life agent as they are less toxic than nitrites.

 

[medusa]

What about amounium nitrate or potassium nitrate, I have access to plenty of both

LD50 of ammonium nitrate 2217 mg, rat.
Would recommend something else as it does not seem very poisonous

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

So far the doctors have been unsuccessful in controlling my pain-migraines and neuroma pain from my feet.
I totally feel you on this-I would also end it before cancer does. My fiance's father killed himself because of cancer and it was not pretty-in the end he could barely get up and so he took a massive morphine overdose.

I can totally understand why the father of your fiance chose to go and may he RIP. I think i will go in about a month's time after I wrap up some professional and personal matters.

 

[dib327]

Would this be everything I need to ctb from SN

Sodium nitrite

Primperan metoclopramide

Thanks

 

[sep 19]

SN is not as reliable as some other poisons. The body's natural enzymes need to overwhelmed and they work from the moment of ingestion to restore hemoglobin again.
I have SN myself but dunno whether I will use it. I can't find out how reliable it truly is.
Btw, he is a she.

The body's natural enzymes need to overwhelmed and they work from the moment of ingestion to restore hemoglobin again.
enzymes in salivary secretion reduce nitrate to nitrite. you drink nitrite. so nothings starts from the moment of ingestion

I can't find out how reliable it truly is.
ask them to show their medical literature to you

 

[dib327]

The body's natural enzymes need to overwhelmed and they work from the moment of ingestion to restore hemoglobin again.
enzymes in salivary secretion reduce nitrate to nitrite. you drink nitrite. so nothings starts from the moment of ingestion

I can't find out how reliable it truly is.
ask them to show their medical literature to you

So Nitrite doesn't work ? Would like to know before I buy the stuff

 

[sep 19]

So Nitrite doesn't work ? Would like to know before I buy the stuff

nitrite works. don't use nitrate
everything else you said was enough to kill you

the stress of my last post was on the moment of ingestion

 

[dib327]

Is this the right nitrite?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/253819268781

 

[medusa]

Is this the right nitrite?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/253819268781

that one's okay...are you from Germany?

 

[dib327]

that one's okay...are you from Germany?

I'm actually from Canada

 

[John Doe]

For CO, I have read that you are supposed to light the fire outside so the smoke can dissipate quickly and not draw any unwanted attention. Only bring the charcoal inside when it is no longer emitting smoke and is ash-grey in color.

As to other methods, I am no expert and have not looked into them in details. It really depends what you are looking for as no method is perfect. If you want certainty and speed, then you may consider the violent methods and also sodium azide ( extreme precautions must be taken in storing and administration of this chemical. eg it will cause an explosion when it comes into contact with metal. Also, make sure you have a sign warning others of the substance as vomit and other discharge FROM YOUR BODY is also extremely poisonous , PLEASE READ UP ON THIS METHOD BEFORE PROCEEDING). If peacefulness is of more importance to you, I can only think of barbiturates and certain opiods which i understand may not be easily acessible.

yeah.... I can't get them. Peacefull is better.

 

[IfHeDiesHeDies]

yeah.... I can't get them. Peacefull is better.

Pls refer this post :https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/azide-quantity.4516/ re azide

Nietchke had previously said in a live stream that the time to death is pretty much immediate but it doesn't seem to be the case. I urge you to do further research in the matter.

 

[TengoK]

I'm a a bit overweight. Should I increase the amount of SN to allow for my greater size? I was thinking 18g or 20g rather than the recommended 15g? And if I do that, should I increase the dosage of anitemetic, acid reducer etc? Any ideas?

 

[Freesan]

You are right, I don't know the exact dosage taken by the patients nor do I know whether they took anti-emetics. But you have to remember that the PPH was changing the recommended dosage and the other medications which was supposed to give a peaceful death which prompts to think that they have not done enough research on the method. it is irresponsible for them to print things which they are unsure about. They may make further amendments in the next update. So as of now, do we really know what the optimal dose is? Should we take bicarbonate or tagamet?Are opioids needed? What about benzos?

There may be room to improve a method, even when it is already optimal enough to ctb.

They can increase a dose or add some stuff to make it f.e. quicker and more peaceful.

People have died from much lower sn dosages than the ppeh.
People have even accidentally died, f.e. mistaking sodium nitrite with salt.
There are also those who went to the hospital for help and still died.

Looking at that, i find it likely that the ppeh recommendation is at least optimal enough to ctb.

Could the sn method be improved upon?
Possibly.

Many methods improve throughout time.
If a method improves it does not always necessarily mean that the previous advice on the method was not good enough.

 

[carudu]

This is my current plan. Please let me know if there are any issues.

ACQUIRING MATERIALS (in Canada)
1. a) Order sodium nitrite ( Science Company ) b) Order Meclizine ( Amazon )
- Meclizine is a dopamine antagonist and OTC. Discontinued in Canada but still order-able.

2. Check around house for benzos/opioids (my father has back issues and my grandmother broke both her arms recently)
- If I can't find any, I am going to the doctor to ask for valium (diazepram) or xanax (alprazolam) due to insomnia and anxiety.

3. Buy Zantac (Ranitidine) or Pepcid (Famotidine) because the only thing I can find special about Tagamet is that it is a Histamine 2 blocker, and both Zantac and Pepcid are also.
- Judging by the amount of Tagamet needed (approx. 4x standard dose), I assumed I needed roughly the same ratio of Pepcid/Zantac. 300 mg Zantac or 40 mg Pepcid

PREPARATION
1. Test benzos/opioids to see how drowsy/chill they make me

2. Use Meclizine for about 2 days before "due date".

3. Do not eat for 8 hours before "procedure"

FINAL
1. Take meclizine and wait half an hour

2. Take benzo/opioid

3. Take Zantac/Pepcid - wait an hour

4. While waiting for the hour, measure 25g of SN and dissolve into 100 mL of warmish water

5. Once I feel sleepy/pretty calm, stir the solution then drink all of it.

6. Go to sleep in my bed

 

[Marystevenson1001]

This is my current plan. Please let me know if there are any issues.

ACQUIRING MATERIALS (in Canada)
1. a) Order sodium nitrite ( Science Company ) b) Order Meclizine ( Amazon )
- Meclizine is a dopamine antagonist and OTC. Discontinued in Canada but still order-able.

2. Check around house for benzos/opioids (my father has back issues and my grandmother broke both her arms recently)
- If I can't find any, I am going to the doctor to ask for valium (diazepram) or xanax (alprazolam) due to insomnia and anxiety.

3. Buy Zantac (Ranitidine) or Pepcid (Famotidine) because the only thing I can find special about Tagamet is that it is a Histamine 2 blocker, and both Zantac and Pepcid are also.
- Judging by the amount of Tagamet needed (approx. 4x standard dose), I assumed I needed roughly the same ratio of Pepcid/Zantac. 300 mg Zantac or 40 mg Pepcid

PREPARATION
1. Test benzos/opioids to see how drowsy/chill they make me

2. Use Meclizine for about 2 days before "due date".

3. Do not eat for 8 hours before "procedure"

FINAL
1. Take meclizine and wait half an hour

2. Take benzo/opioid

3. Take Zantac/Pepcid - wait an hour

4. While waiting for the hour, measure 25g of SN and dissolve into 100 mL of warmish water

5. Once I feel sleepy/pretty calm, stir the solution then drink all of it.

6. Go to sleep in my bed

The only possible issue I see is that you're planning to take your benzo/opiod an hour prior to the SN. Not sure how much you're planning to take but by 1 hour, you might be passed out. Everything else is identical to my plan with a different anti-emetic just because I'm taking what I have on hand. Those will contribute to the drowsiness too.

 

[ikuchan]

i have primperan and tagamet, waiting on sn to get delivered

i've never used any of them before but i feel in a hurry to die as things have gotten bad for me... is it a bad idea to attempt without getting used to the meto? also is it necessary for me to get benzos/opioids?

 

[epil]

I've ordered SN and Zantac (Ranitidine). But am unable to source any antiemetics. Just how nessarcary are they?

 

[RacilyDank]

I've ordered SN and Zantac (Ranitidine). But am unable to source any antiemetics. Just how nessarcary are they?

Very necessary. You don't want to throw it up and have to go to hospital

 

[Freesan]

What kind of antiemetic regime is recommended?
Which one will you choose?
Why?

Interval antiemetics regime.
Starting 48 hours before the drug overdose.
Taking a dose 3x a day, every 8 hours.
Last dose 45-60min before drug overdose.

Or,

one larger dose regime.
Taking a larger dose 45-60min before the drugoverdose.

 

[epil]

Very necessary. You don't want to throw it up and have to go to hospital

If you were to throw up, what would happen if you didn't go to the hospital?

 

[axorz]

i tried with meto and puked it, i was unconscious like in 3 seconds and ending up in ICU

 

[RacilyDank]

If you were to throw up, what would happen if you didn't go to the hospital?

There is a chance if you digested enough before throwing up you wouldn't die but suffer the other effects of the poison and be fucked up by it forever. If you fail an attempt it's probably best to go to hospital so they can administer the antidote.

 

[RacilyDank]

i tried with meto and puked it, i was unconscious like in 3 seconds and ending up in ICU

You tried with SN? Were you unconscious after you puked? How did get to hospital?

This could do with a thread of it's own.

 

[lifeofregret]

You tried with SN? Were you unconscious after you puked? How did get to hospital?

This could do with a thread of it's own.

He took 13 benzos, that's why he got knocked out instantly and puked probably

 

[epil]

There is a chance if you digested enough before throwing up you wouldn't die but suffer the other effects of the poison and be fucked up by it forever. If you fail an attempt it's probably best to go to hospital so they can administer the antidote.

Effects of the poison?

 

[epil]

Effects of the poison?

I was planning on 35g

 

[TengoK]

What kind of antiemetic regime is recommended?
Which one will you choose?
Why?

Interval antiemetics regime.
Starting 48 hours before the drug overdose.
Taking a dose 3x a day, every 8 hours.
Last dose 45-60min before drug overdose.

Or,

one larger dose regime.
Taking a larger dose 45-60min before the drugoverdose.

I would really like to know this too. I have *never* taken an antiemetic of any sort. I got some Primperan via eBay, but I only got only one pack of 20 x 10mg, so I don't have many to 'experiment' with. As it's supposed to be 30mg prior to taking the SN, that means I wouldn't have enough to take 30mg every 8 hours over 2 days.

Will one larger dose regime be okay?

 

[Freesan]

I would really like to know this too. I have *never* taken an antiemetic of any sort. I got some Primperan via eBay, but I only got only one pack of 20 x 10mg, so I don't have many to 'experiment' with. As it's supposed to be 30mg prior to taking the SN, that means I wouldn't have enough to take 30mg every 8 hours over 2 days.

Will one larger dose regime be okay?

From what I read the interval regime for drug OD would not be 30mg 3x a day, but 10mg 3x a day for 2 days, every 8 hours.

Anyone correct me if wrong please.