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Valhala

Valhala

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Let's assume this "works" and is probably even faster and more comfortable than N - I don't doubt it, however; Propofol is hardly easier to obtain than N (perhaps for a nuance, but it is still quite demanding) and most importantly, this procedure is technically too complicated for most people - more complicated than the inert gas method. I doubt that someone who is a layman in the field would medical profession, decided on this method even if he managed to acquire all of the above.
 
summersolstice101

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1000mg without an IV line .. I doubt it.
Yea it only works with an IV line.

Let's assume this "works" and is probably even faster and more comfortable than N - I don't doubt it, however; Propofol is hardly easier to obtain than N (perhaps for a nuance, but it is still quite demanding) and most importantly, this procedure is technically too complicated for most people - more complicated than the inert gas method. I doubt that someone who is a layman in the field would medical profession, decided on this method even if he managed to acquire all of the above.
Agreed that propofol can be extremely difficult to obtain, especially in tough places like Australia, it is a highly restricted medication.
However, OP does mention that there is a source with Russian pharmacies - I haven't personally checked if they can deliver through stringent Aus customs , but I think this is lead worth exploring for those that perform the procedure.

Also I see where you're coming from that this may not be the best approach for the layman.
I think for those people confident with medical literacy, and manual dexterity, this could be a useful alternative.
 
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Yea it only works with an IV line.


Agreed that propofol can be extremely difficult to obtain, especially in tough places like Australia, it is a highly restricted medication.
However, OP does mention that there is a source with Russian pharmacies - I haven't personally checked if they can deliver through stringent customs, but I think this is lead worth exploring for those that perform the procedure.

Also I see where you're coming from that this may not be the best approach for the layman.
I think for those people confident with medical literacy, and manual dexterity, this could be a useful alternative.
I agree with you, I wrote something similar. If there is availability of Propofol at Russian clearnet pharmacies, that is certainly good news.
 
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youpi

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You guys need to stop worrying about customs with the exception of a few country like Australia and some others, most things will pass.
 
Amarajoy

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Fantastic

Really appreciate your post, this is fantastic work.
The fact that this is the method of choice by anesthesiologists speaks volumes to it's efficacy.

Many people have have commented concerns about the technicalities of the setting up an IV line. I understand that it may be extremely difficult for some to perform, and IV route can be restrictive in these ways. For those that are keen to learn and committed to this method, there are many sources online (even on youtube) which explain it step-by-step. If you are unable to find any videos or don't understand parts of it, feel free to message me and I can explain or provide some materials that can guide you.
Trying to get over the fear of sticking myself for the IV is my major hurdle.
 
summersolstice101

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Trying to get over the fear of sticking myself for the IV is my major hurdle.
If the problem is the pain associated with getting jabbed, then it's not commonly used in adults, but you can try to numb the area - try topical anaestehtic creams, or try injecting some local anesthetic through a smaller needle over your site (but downside is it the fluid can make it more difficult to see the vein).
If it's a needlephobia, this is a bit more difficult to overcome, but it's all about exposure therapy, which is easier said than done. Start with looking at photos, then videos, then handling the equipment in person, trying on dummies, all that before trying on yourself.
 
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If the problem is the pain associated with getting jabbed, then it's not commonly used in adults, but you can try to numb the area - try topical anaestehtic creams, or try injecting some local anesthetic through a smaller needle over your site (but downside is it the fluid can make it more difficult to see the vein).
If it's a needlephobia, this is a bit more difficult to overcome, but it's all about exposure therapy, which is easier said than done. Start with looking at photos, then videos, then handling the equipment in person, trying on dummies, all that before trying on yourself.
Thank you. Yes, it's the needle phobia for me. I can't watch when someone else does it so attempting it in myself seems pretty impossible at this point.
 

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