Outside of health, why do people with money want to CTB?

[JoeFailure]

Just an honest question, not accusatory or anything like that.

Money would literally solve so many of my problems and would likely save my life. It allows freedom and a means to fix so many different things and grant hope.

I'm just wondering for anyone who is financially strong, what besides physical health can make you feel like there's no way out?

 

[ShadowOfTheDay]

Mental illness. It is no less debilitating, painful, or untreatable than physical illnesses.

 

[Youthanasia]

Mental illness. It is no less debilitating, painful, or untreatable than physical illnesses.

I wouldnt go as far as saying mental illness, i don't think it's wrong but you don't even need that much IMO.

I'd say it's similar as to how people with money can still be murderers, heavy drug addicts or anything else. I think emotional structure/stability is a better way to put it

 

[JadedGray]

The old cliche phrase "money can't buy happiness".

 

[J.E. Morrow]

Mental illness. It is no less debilitating, painful, or untreatable than physical illnesses.

In your case, are there any specific reasons for that mental illness? I hope you don´t mind me asking, I'm also interested in this topic.

 

[Youthanasia]

The old cliche phrase "money can't buy happiness".

I got a better one

"If you think it can't you've been in the wrong shop"

 

[headinghome]

Just an honest question, not accusatory or anything like that.

Money would literally solve so many of my problems and would likely save my life. It allows freedom and a means to fix so many different things and grant hope.

I'm just wondering for anyone who is financially strong, what besides physical health can make you feel like there's no way out?

I have similar thoughts...

 

[TheFinalCountdown]

Financial problems are one of the biggest catalysts for suicide so rich people are probably a lot less likely to commit suicide than the general population. As has been said however, money can't necessarily protect you from stress, mental illness, ageing, loneliness or lack of purpose.

 

[Onomotopoeia]

I dont have any money, i'm mostly poor and greatly in debt. That said I'm doing much better than others I know. I'm still paying down my debt, I'm not starving, if my computer broke tomorrow I would go buy a new one.

That said i'm probably not qualified to be the answer you are looking for but I will answer anyway because im bored.

I do not experience being happy. It just does not, and has not ever happened for me. Money wont fix that. It would eliminate most negative things in my life, but it will not bring me the ability to experience joy. It just would not matter much

 

[JadedGray]

I got a better one

"If you think it can't you've been in the wrong shop"

Haven't heard that one before. I can't speak from a wealthy person's point of view, since I've only lived in poverty. With money you will be able to get the best in life, but these are only physical needs being met. Money can only fill the void for so long.

 

[marcusuk63]

Money doesn't buy happiness but it does give you a better class of misery .

 

[jayfox]

The old cliche phrase "money can't buy happiness".

But it buys everything else. Ppl that came with that phrase must have been filthy rich and lonely.

I'm going to have to ctb because I'm sick and poor .
, Were I not I'd still be sick but fighting because I love life. Even though I had no life just being sick, no friends, pain both physical and emotional I still fight.

Money is running out so is my time, world is not fair but it's not supposed to be . I'm more angry the fact ppl don't give a crap. Even I tell them my story they get shocked but after a while it's back to numbness.

It's too bad because even now I would trade a leg for being healthy , even with half a life lost. Well that's enough venting i apologize.

 

[ShadowOfTheDay]

In your case, are there any specific reasons for that mental illness? I hope you don´t mind me asking, I'm also interested in this topic.

No, I don't mind you asking, of course. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer. I feel like there must be something fundamentally wrong with my brain. I've lived a relatively easy life, and nothing in my past has left me traumatized, as far as I can remember. Maybe I'm just genetic garbage--the inevitable result of procreation without hesitation.

 

[JadedGray]

But it buys everything else. Ppl that came with that phrase must have been filthy rich and lonely.

I'm going to have to ctb because I'm sick and poor .
, Were I not I'd still be sick but fighting because I love life. Even though I had no life just being sick, no friends, pain both physical and emotional I still fight.

Money is running out so is my time, world is not fair but it's not supposed to be . I'm more angry the fact ppl don't give a crap. Even I tell them my story they get shocked but after a while it's back to numbness.

It's too bad because even now I would trade a leg for being healthy , even with half a life lost. Well that's enough venting i apologize.

I wasn't speaking from experience. I'm in the same situation as you (sick and poor).

 

[jayfox]

I wasn't speaking from experience. I'm in the same situation as you (sick and poor).

Jaded I know that's why I quoted you.

Was just venting, ppl like us are invisible, I'm tired of fighting,

Meant no ofense

 

[JadedGray]

Jaded I know that's why I quoted you.

Was just venting, ppl like us are invisible, I'm tired of fighting,

Meant no ofense

None taken. I'm tired too.

 

[jayfox]

None taken. I'm tired too.

Thats fine one day we will.

 

[Lifeisatrap]

I think suicide would be alot easier with money actually, in terms of being able to afford the best methods.

 

[Egddios]

I've had money, I've not had money; depression follows me no matter where I go, where I've gone. I've had the ability to travel to Europe many times, afford to treat friends to dinners and buy myself clothing when I wanted, etc. I also don't have children, which saves quite a bit of money, and never took out loans for college. That said, there have been times when I've been flat broke. I didn't have health insurance for over a decade; ironically, I was doing better when I wasn't seeing a psychiatrist regularly. Anyhow...

I've wanted to die since the 5th grade; I grew up physically and emotionally abused.

If tomorrow my bank account suddenly was in the millions, I'd set up some trusts for my nieces and nephew, give a good part to my partner, and donate the rest to some sort of animal sanctuary. I'd still end my life. Money doesn't heal the deep wounds of trauma, it doesn't erase depression; it can temporarily relieve the pain of life.

I'm uninterested in temporary fixes at this point. Biggie said it best: more money, more problems.

 

[Marz]

If I had money I'd use it for a good cause before ctb. Mental illness doesn't discriminate, but the world does. Many other people could use that money than me.

 

[TAW122]

tomorrow my bank account suddenly was in the millions, I'd set up some trusts for my nieces and nephew, give a good part to my partner, and donate the rest to some sort of animal sanctuary. I'd still end my life. Money doesn't heal the deep wounds of trauma, it doesn't erase depression; it can temporarily relieve the pain of life.

Very true and yeah, I had the same feeling too even when I was struggling financially, like even during the college days. I firmly believe that while money can give us options and allow to achieve many goals, there are things that money can't buy. If something doesn't exist and you want it badly, then money is irrelevant.

The old cliche phrase "money can't buy happiness".

^ This. There are many things in life where I simply just cannot BUY with money to solve. The inability to buy a 'real' relationship with another significant other would be a strong reason to CTB (for many others in the world), though in the recently, that is NO longer one of the reasons for me wanting to CTB. Money may help afford services to treat physical illnesses and improve quality of life to an extent, but it is by all means NOT absolute and sometimes even with a lot of money, certain if one's health has gone to shit, no amount of money will ever solve it (such as stage 3 cancer, ALS, dementia, Alzheimer's, quadriplegia, etc.).

 

[alizee]

I've read that financially speaking 70% of suicides are linked to money problems. I'm not sure about the remaining amount of the pie but I do know that the 30% left doesn't discriminate. Meaning the rich can just as easily fall into the last 30% like the others that are suicidal but okay with finances.

Now the above isn't so black & white because the rich can use their finances to access things others aren't able to in fixing their problems. Such as repairing aesthetics by expensive plastic surgery, fixing loneliness by filling one's schedule with personal trainer & multiple hobbies; where other people are included and one could argue even love can be purchased with how many billions of people exist.

Health issues are likely the main cause of suicide by the rich. I suspect the rich have the opportunity to keep info around suicide undisclosed and contrary to the less financially privileged. Anyway, it's better to have money because you can attempt to repair all your problems with all possible solutions available in this world.

 

[Kyrok]

In my case, extreme anxiety, chronic pain, shame over something stupid I did.

We can add: failed romance, loneliness, low self-esteem, guilt, etc..

Money of course comes in degrees: just getting by, comfortable, luxurious, super rich.

Consider: wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicides_in_the_21st_century

 

[Gooseygoes]

Debilitating grief, trauma, loss, an inability to feel emotions... There are so many things that money can't remedy. The sick part is that life finds the most unique ways to hurt every one of us. We ALL walk with some type of limp.

 

[Mart]

Came into a large sum of money when I was 18 because my father CTB when I was 16. I still worked so I still have the money, I traveled some, thought it would make me happy, it didn't. It doesn't matter if I was a millionaire, I don't think I'm fit for life and it doesn't solve everything. I'm lonely as fuck. I have nobody. I tried to care for somebody and they fucked me over, the only person I actually whole heartedly give a damn about is halfway around the world and avoids talking to me, I love my mother and I know she loves me, but even though I love her, me and her struggle to talk and communicate because we are two very different people. I just don't think I'm fit to live. I'm not happy, I'm not content, and I don't think I ever will be. I don't think I'll ever come to a point where I think "This was worth it". I don't see a happy ending for me. I'll die and I'll leave my family the money. I hope it makes them happy.

 

[deathenvoy]

Depression does not care for money.

 

[EmotionlessWanderer]

Depression, can't relate or connect to anyone, this entire world and society sucks as an whole. Yeah if you're rich and have a lot of friends it's all rainbows and ponies but for us we see the truth.

 

[CelebrateWithMe]

For many years (when I was adolescent) I belived that money could make me happier. Now I see that it was a naive thinking. Money can give me pleasure for a moment (as many other thinks) but they cannot change my perception of life, world, other people, feelings etc. It depends only on my mind. :)

 

[Allpainnogain]

Guilt and shame over horrible life decisions that can not be reversed.

 

[Only Me Here]

Mine is Loneliness. Money doesn't fix loneliness, you can have everything but nothing means anything when you are alone and have zero family. I have travelled a lot, in december i just went to thailand, hung out by the pool of a beautiful resort and spent most of the time crying behind my sunglasses watching family and couples. I Didn't leave my room much after that. Then i went on a 2 week train trip to the rockies and seeing all the happy couples and families made it worse i stayed in my cabin for most of it. In fact, those trips solidified my decision. That no matter what i do or what i earn and believe me when i first ran away from home i was broke, that nothimg would make me ok inside.
BUT it does help to afford an easier exit and time to do this when everything is right without being forced to by a specific date.i always planned to have enough saved for my last year here, but there really isnt anything i want to do. Im just waiting for my stuff.