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ConfusedClouds

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For me it highlighted the need for planning and resources and really put me off doing anything impulsive which was more likely in the months I was lurking and then joined due to reading a post that really resonated with me.

In terms of the full word 'recover' thats a big word. But I guess there's infinitely more chance of recovery if I haven't attempted something impulsively and either ended up dead or severely ill/injured.
 
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JoysoftheEmptiness

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Sep 10, 2024
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I've always believed in open discussion of all and any mental health condition, be it self harm, suicide, whatever. I believe we must destroy the stigma of mental health, including suicide. I won't hide the fact that I believe in assisted suicide, my physical health is slowly going downhill. Talking about suicide is good, and its probably saving lives, not the other way around.
 
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Deep Breaths
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Dropping a link (that's right) in here to this thread by @Placo with a compilation of "the other kind of goodbye" threads from the first half of this year.

To whom it may concern and be of interest: Users who improved in the first half of 2024

(it seemed relevant)
 
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_AllCatsAreGrey_

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Mar 4, 2024
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I think for me it has shifted my idea of what recovery can be. In the time when I first found the site I was actively suicidal. At the time this was very scary to me as I have attempted multiple times in my life. It felt like the feeling could overtake me. I was scared to talk about it with my therapist.

After coming to the site I started my research, both on methods and the DIY right to die movement in general. This removed the feeling of taboo around suicide. I no longer felt that I was afraid of my ideation. I feel confident in my right to choose the time of my death. This made the whole subject more rational.

When researching methods it's become obvious there is a lot to learn and plan for. Taking on suicide as a lifelong project has really shifted my attitude. I'm working on building kits and possible plans. For me recovery means managing impulsive urges, so in a weird way researching and planning is a part of my recovery. lol

It reminds me of this quote from Emil Cioran: "What saved me was the idea of suicide. If it wasn't for the idea of suicide I would have killed myself." (paraphrased)

 
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Praying 4 a Miracle

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When people feel trapped in their suffering, they're far more likely to commit suicide. A forum like this makes people feel less trapped. We all realize that we have options, and this reduces the number of people who out of desperation will follow through. If all adults qualify for medically assisted dying, this would also reduce the total number of people who commit suicide because of chronic health issues.

It's the feeling of being trapped in our suffering, that makes it completely unbearable. This is what creates the most anxiety and stress. People who are not currently suffering from any health issues need to understand this, and it needs to happen quickly.
 
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turnaround

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Nov 20, 2024
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It's no secret that (worldwide), many in society seem very uncomfortable with the open discussion of this subject. It seems to me that censoring it, and preventing people from openly communicating will only make the problem much worse.

When prohibition of alcohol was enforced years ago, did it stop people from drinking? It just drove the problem underground. Bootlegging began, causing dangerous manufacturing processes, which resulted in unpredictable and tragic health consequences. If prohibition was a good solution, we would still be using it today.

Banning or censoring free speech (online or anywhere else) will only drive the conversations underground, where the efforts for encouraging recovery will most likely NOT be taking place.

It's understandable that so many in society feel uncomfortable discussing the subject of death and suffering, but the result of allowing these conversations IMO, is that people feel supported and understood.

By allowing citizens around the world to build a community of people who understand what each other is going through, it dramatically reduces the amount of anxiety for those who are suffering intensely. This will result in a DECREASE in suicide rates around the world, NOT an increase.

Stigmatizing the entire subject is obviously not working, as suicide is currently the number one cause of death WORLDWIDE for people under 35. Also number one for MEN under 50 (even eclipsing auto accidents!). By limiting access to safe, medical assistance in dying programs, this forces many who are suffering intolerably to resort to dangerous and painful unassisted methods, where the chances of further disability and suffering are extremely high.

If people know they have access to a safe and peaceful way of relieving their intense pain, if absolutely necessary, then this dramatically reduces anxiety levels and improves overall mental health. When you combine assisted and unassisted methods, th
is will result in FEWER people committing suicide overall.

Those citizens suffering strictly from poverty, should be supported by programs such as disability benefits, universal basic income, and assistance in finding employment. This would prevent those suffering from poverty and disabilities from being motivated to choose assisted dying for financial reasons. IMO, if you take all financial reasons off the table, NO ONE is going to want to prematurely end their life, unless they are truly suffering intolerably, with no other possible solutions available to solve the problem(s). Then EVERY adult can make this extremely important decision for themselves.

Obviously, the ultimate objective should ALWAYS be recovery, and that is why this open discussion forum is so important. What people in the mainstream media (and healthy/happy individuals) should be learning from this forum, is that there are a LOT of people who feel they have no way of escaping their pain in this life, without resorting to the various painful and dangerous methods that are often discussed.

By also offering many recovery and mental health support resources, along with encouraging and moderating a respectful environment for open communication and community, it's undeniable that this forum is saving many.

I totally agree with your post. I've been watching this site for awhile, finally became a member, it's my first post, reading people being open, honest, and vulnerable about how they are truly feeling, especially these last few days of intense depression and despair, has oddly made me feel not alone. We have to hide how we feel all day long, even friends and family can't understand, or if they do they won't vocalize the reality we all have come to. That ending one's life is your choice. If we truly have bodily autonomy we should be able to decide if we want to be active players in a game none of signed up for, or have been dealt bad hands at.

I'm thankful for being apart of this community. Thank you all for your bravery.