Opioid overdose

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

I meant to type vomiting but spell check got there first and printed that word.

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

I'm jealous of Swisher's medicine cabinet.

 

[Swisher]

I've heard new cars can but no idea on mechanism, reliability, peacefulness, etc etc. Old cars it was peaceful because of high CO concentration. I was curious is it possible to remove or sabotage the catalytic converter on a car to make this method more viable? I don't have a car so it's just pure interest from me.

Yes, you can! Kinda funny (no) because the best car for the job is at the shop and needs new exhaust! I'm not paying for that! It's waiting for me and I can't get there. "Excuse me, Mr. mechanic guy, but could you shut the garage doors, leave me here and come back tomorrow"?
Can cut it...sure, right after the pipe from your muffler towards the front of the car, but I couldn't get underneath it or cut through that myself. Might break a nail. I'm also sure all of that would be horribly uncomfortable. Someone described it. It's odorless, colorless...but Not from a charcoal grill or your car! That's just a secondary back up plan. Run it a bit then I'll hopefully sleep...

 

[Duqu]

This is the best article I've read by far on antiemetics and overdoses.
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen

I have a crap load of zofran (from not taking it because it doesn't work for my everyday nausea - I'm taking boxes and boxes and boxes). I'll probably take the Metoclopramide I bought on ebay along with 32mg zofran cause hey, can't hurt.

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

Could still die, I left out the word to! I feel like a dunce. Sorry Swisher, I'm just too eager to type and post so my posts always have spelling errors and missed words.

 

[Swisher]

I'm jealous of Swisher's medicine cabinet.

Thanks..lol! Which one did you want? Or all of them? The Zofran is old...I hope it works.

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

If I put a tooth under my pillow tonight do you think the tooth fairy would bless my with antiemetic?

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

Antiemetics are the only thing I can't get because I'm computer illiterate.

 

[JazzyWolfWhistle]

Can I lie to a doctor and get antiemetics?

 

[Swisher]

This is the best article I've read by far on antiemetics and overdoses.
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen

I have a crap load of zofran (from not taking it because it doesn't work for my everyday nausea - I'm taking boxes and boxes and boxes). I'll probably take the Metoclopramide I bought on ebay along with 32mg zofran cause hey, can't hurt.

That's the one I read. What's the Metoclopramide difference? They also talked about tagament and not pepcid?? I can get Tagament otc perhaps I'll take both? My pain is intolerable...my doctor is repugnant. I, like you, cannot stand the pain. This isn't living. I wanted to chat with you because you're living my life only you're getting more drugs than I am! Have you tried to ctb? I feel, selfishly, awful for us

 

[Duqu]

Read this article, it's really useful: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen

 

[Swisher]

Could still die, I left out the word to! I feel like a dunce. Sorry Swisher, I'm just too eager to type and post so my posts always have spelling errors and missed words.

I didn't notice you left a word out. Can you point me to it so I can scold you for it?
I cannot spell my way out of a paper bag...and I'm proud of it! (totally embarrassing actually. Dont care anymore. Thanks ottokorecht!

 

[Duqu]

My pain is intolerable...my doctor is repugnant. I, like you, cannot stand the pain. This isn't living. I wanted to chat with you because you're living my life only you're getting more drugs than I am! Have you tried to ctb? I feel, selfishly, awful for us

SOrry missed this part of your post. I have a connective tissue genetic disorder plus several autoimmune diseases that cause me a great deal of pain. DAILY I take morphine and dilaudid (plus muscle relaxers). I have a huge stash of old opioids and benzos from when they didn't work so I just kept refilling them figuring I'd think of a use someday.

 

[Swisher]

Antiemetics are the only thing I can't get because I'm computer illiterate.

I didn't realize but that is a hard drug to obtain. Tell your doctor you get migraines...if you do. My migraines make me nauseas.

 

[Swisher]

SOrry missed this part of your post. I have a connective tissue genetic disorder plus several autoimmune diseases that cause me a great deal of pain. DAILY I take morphine and dilaudid (plus muscle relaxers). I have a huge stash of old opioids and benzos from when they didn't work so I just kept refilling them figuring I'd think of a use someday.

I'll try that link. One was the "amitriptyline cocktail". It adds an antacid ...cimetidine? Do not know if it should be added to opioids. I think i
I'd feel better if I had more Benzos. I did the same thing with meds...began filling them anyway...they are all gone now. In about 10 days, I'll have more, but I've got this house all to myself right now. After that, it gets busy and awful...a fate worse than death...truly

 

[Swisher]

SOrry missed this part of your post. I have a connective tissue genetic disorder plus several autoimmune diseases that cause me a great deal of pain. DAILY I take morphine and dilaudid (plus muscle relaxers). I have a huge stash of old opioids and benzos from when they didn't work so I just kept refilling them figuring I'd think of a use someday.

Btw, autoimmune nervous system disorder as well. I used to look at people with disabilities and Not once did I think, "I wonder if that person has crippling pain". Connective tissue disorder...I can't imagine.

 

[Jameson]

Promethazine is a dopamine blocker? Swear you need dopamine blockers to stop drug induced vomiting

So which one of these antiemetics should I get to go with the rest of my mixture. I have had Zoran before but I can probably request about one of them. I do not want this to go sideways. My original thought was to do charcoal method as well. Plan it out do a test run then buy 4 2x4's lock myself in my upstairs bathroom and put the 2x4's across the door and drill and bolt them in place. Trust me this door would not be kicked in when I'm finished. The house will be all mine for 14 hours and I'll leave signs to direct everyone away and call the police. The only way in will be with the ladder in the garage to the window. And this would be hopefully way way long enough time.
I gotta tell you . I'm looking forward to the whiskey and the oxy. They mix so well. I just want it to work . Thursday September 27th. Wish I had a partner to help but I would have a hard time trusting anyone without knowing them. One more thing. I have access to a full size tank of helium and could do that bag over the head method. Christ I need to pick one.

 

[Jameson]

So which one of these antiemetics should I get to go with the rest of my mixture. I have had Zoran before but I can probably request about one of them. I do not want this to go sideways. My original thought was to do charcoal method as well. Plan it out do a test run then buy 4 2x4's lock myself in my upstairs bathroom and put the 2x4's across the door and drill and bolt them in place. Trust me this door would not be kicked in when I'm finished. The house will be all mine for 14 hours and I'll leave signs to direct everyone away and call the police. The only way in will be with the ladder in the garage to the window. And this would be hopefully way way long enough time.
I gotta tell you . I'm looking forward to the whiskey and the oxy. They mix so well. I just want it to work . Thursday September 27th. Wish I had a partner to help but I would have a hard time trusting anyone without knowing them. One more thing. I have access to a full size tank of helium and could do that bag over the head method. Christ I need to pick one.

Antiemetics including:

• • Dolasetron (Anzemet) can be administered in tablet form or in an injection.
  • Granisetron (Kytril, Sancuso) can be administered in tablet (Kytril), oral solution (Kytril), injection D(Kytril), or in a single transdermal patch to the upper arm (SANCUSO).
  • Ondansetron (Zofran) is administered in an oral tablet form, orally dissolving tablet form, orally dissolving film, sublingual, or in an IV/IM injection.
  • Tropisetron (Setrovel, Navoban) can be administered in oral capsules or in injection form.
  • Palonosetron (Aloxi) can be administered in an injection or in oral capsules.
  • Mirtazapine (Remeron) is an antidepressantthat also has antiemetic effects[4][5] and is also a potent histamine H1 receptor antagonist, Ki=1.6 nM.[6]
• Dopamine antagonists act in the brain and are used to treat nausea and vomiting associated with neoplastic disease, radiation sickness, opioids, cytotoxic drugs and general anaesthetics. Side effects include muscle spasms and restlessness.[3]
  • Domperidone (Motilium)
  • Olanzapine (Zyprexa)
  • Droperidol, haloperidol, chlorpromazine, prochlorperazine. Some of these drugs are limited in their usefulness by their extra-pyramidal and sedative side-effects.
  • Alizapride
  • Prochlorperazine (Compazine, Stemzine, Buccastem, Stemetil, Phenotil)
  • Metoclopramide (Reglan) also acts on the GI tract as a pro-kinetic, and is thus useful in gastrointestinal disease; however, it is poor in cytotoxic or post-op vomiting. also a

• • Buccastem, Stemetil, Phenotil)
  • Metoclopramide (Reglan) also acts on the GI tract as a pro-kinetic, and is thus useful in gastrointestinal disease; however, it is poor in cytotoxic or post-op vomiting. also a 5-HT3receptor antagonists
• NK1 receptor antagonist
  • Aprepitant (Emend) is a commercially available NK1 Receptor antagonist
  • Casopitant is an investigational NK1 receptor antagonist
  • Rolapitant (Varubi) another recently approved drug from this class
• Antihistamines (H1 histamine receptorantagonists) are effective in many conditions, including motion sickness, morning sickness in pregnancy, and to combat opioid nausea.
  • Cinnarizine, available in the UK.
  • Cyclizine
  • Diphenhydramine (Benadryl)
  • Dimenhydrinate (Gravol, Dramamine)
  • Doxylamine
  • Meclizine (Bonine, Antivert)
  • Promethazine (Pentazine, Phenergan, Promacot) can be administered via a rectal suppository for adults and children over 2 years of age.
  • Hydroxyzine (Vistaril)
• Cannabinoids are used in patients with cachexia, cytotoxic nausea, and vomiting, or who are unresponsive to other agents. These may cause changes in perception, dizziness, and loss of coordination.[3]
  • Cannabis, also known as medical marijuana in the United States, is a Schedule Idrug.[citation needed]
  • Dronabinol (Marinol/Syndros) is a Schedule IIIdrug in the U.S.[citation needed]
  • Some synthetic cannabinoids such as Nabilone (Cesamet) or the JWH series.
  • Sativex is an oral spray containing THC and CBD. It is currently legal in Canada and a few countries in Europe but not legal in the U.S.[citation needed]
• Benzodiazepines
  • Midazolam (Versed) is given at the onset of anesthesia and has been shown in recent trials to be as effective as ondansetron.[citation needed]
  • Lorazepam (Ativan) is said to be very good as an adjunct treatment for nausea along with first line medications such

 

[Swisher]

So which one of these antiemetics should I get to go with the rest of my mixture. I have had Zoran before but I can probably request about one of them. I do not want this to go sideways. My original thought was to do charcoal method as well. Plan it out do a test run then buy 4 2x4's lock myself in my upstairs bathroom and put the 2x4's across the door and drill and bolt them in place. Trust me this door would not be kicked in when I'm finished. The house will be all mine for 14 hours and I'll leave signs to direct everyone away and call the police. The only way in will be with the ladder in the garage to the window. And this would be hopefully way way long enough time.
I gotta tell you . I'm looking forward to the whiskey and the oxy. They mix so well. I just want it to work . Thursday September 27th. Wish I had a partner to help but I would have a hard time trusting anyone without knowing them. One more thing. I have access to a full size tank of helium and could do that bag over the head method. Christ I need to pick one.

I'm afraid of the bathroom idea. I would want to see if that grill is tolerable or burning my lungs & you can't get the door open fast enough if it's bolted. There is... yes, there really is/was a group of people who did/do assisted suicides (I'll find the link). All these
deaths seemed completely natural
except one thing...their ("patients") arms were always folded "comfortably" across their bodies. Somehow someone thought it was odd & with the advent of computers began relating some of these deaths to one another. Some of the participants ("assistors") began to talk too. They said that even though the helium was "painless", assitors, more than one, would have hold the arms of these "patients" down bcuz instinctively they'd try to remove (claw at?) the plastic bags from around their heads. Upon completion, they would then fold the deceased's hands peacefully across their bodies. WHAT!? That doesn't sound peaceful! Like you, I do not want to claw, vomit, cough, get discovered, or anything else but go to sleep. You could also (probably) save your sobriety ... I've been thinking about this forever, and all I can do now, is keep buying a little time. Who's been successful? And who CAN you partner with? I'm struggling because I think the answer is "no one" to both questions.

 

[Swisher]

Link please, otherwise it's a lie.

Cannabinoids are used in patients with cachexia,cytotoxic nausea, and vomiting, or who areunresponsive to other agents. These may cause changes in perception, dizziness, and loss ofcoordination.[3]... I didn't find this...it was posted by someone else as he tried to find Antiemeics? It is the THC which makes you sick. I'll guess he would have the link. It's quite a comprehensive listing. Who knew?

 

[Swisher]

Antiemetics including:

• • Dolasetron (Anzemet) can be administered in tablet form or in an injection.
  • Granisetron (Kytril, Sancuso) can be administered in tablet (Kytril), oral solution (Kytril), injection D(Kytril), or in a single transdermal patch to the upper arm (SANCUSO).
  • Ondansetron (Zofran) is administered in an oral tablet form, orally dissolving tablet form, orally dissolving film, sublingual, or in an IV/IM injection.
  • Tropisetron (Setrovel, Navoban) can be administered in oral capsules or in injection form.
  • Palonosetron (Aloxi) can be administered in an injection or in oral capsules.
  • Mirtazapine (Remeron) is an antidepressantthat also has antiemetic effects[4][5] and is also a potent histamine H1 receptor antagonist, Ki=1.6 nM.[6]
• Dopamine antagonists act in the brain and are used to treat nausea and vomiting associated with neoplastic disease, radiation sickness, opioids, cytotoxic drugs and general anaesthetics. Side effects include muscle spasms and restlessness.[3]
  • Domperidone (Motilium)
  • Olanzapine (Zyprexa)
  • Droperidol, haloperidol, chlorpromazine, prochlorperazine. Some of these drugs are limited in their usefulness by their extra-pyramidal and sedative side-effects.
  • Alizapride
  • Prochlorperazine (Compazine, Stemzine, Buccastem, Stemetil, Phenotil)
  • Metoclopramide (Reglan) also acts on the GI tract as a pro-kinetic, and is thus useful in gastrointestinal disease; however, it is poor in cytotoxic or post-op vomiting. also a

• • Buccastem, Stemetil, Phenotil)
  • Metoclopramide (Reglan) also acts on the GI tract as a pro-kinetic, and is thus useful in gastrointestinal disease; however, it is poor in cytotoxic or post-op vomiting. also a 5-HT3receptor antagonists
• NK1 receptor antagonist
  • Aprepitant (Emend) is a commercially available NK1 Receptor antagonist
  • Casopitant is an investigational NK1 receptor antagonist
  • Rolapitant (Varubi) another recently approved drug from this class
• Antihistamines (H1 histamine receptorantagonists) are effective in many conditions, including motion sickness, morning sickness in pregnancy, and to combat opioid nausea.
  • Cinnarizine, available in the UK.
  • Cyclizine
  • Diphenhydramine (Benadryl)
  • Dimenhydrinate (Gravol, Dramamine)
  • Doxylamine
  • Meclizine (Bonine, Antivert)
  • Promethazine (Pentazine, Phenergan, Promacot) can be administered via a rectal suppository for adults and children over 2 years of age.
  • Hydroxyzine (Vistaril)
• Cannabinoids are used in patients with cachexia, cytotoxic nausea, and vomiting, or who are unresponsive to other agents. These may cause changes in perception, dizziness, and loss of coordination.[3]
  • Cannabis, also known as medical marijuana in the United States, is a Schedule Idrug.[citation needed]
  • Dronabinol (Marinol/Syndros) is a Schedule IIIdrug in the U.S.[citation needed]
  • Some synthetic cannabinoids such as Nabilone (Cesamet) or the JWH series.
  • Sativex is an oral spray containing THC and CBD. It is currently legal in Canada and a few countries in Europe but not legal in the U.S.[citation needed]
• Benzodiazepines
  • Midazolam (Versed) is given at the onset of anesthesia and has been shown in recent trials to be as effective as ondansetron.[citation needed]
  • Lorazepam (Ativan) is said to be very good as an adjunct treatment for nausea along with first line medications such

Where did you find this! You answered someone else's question. bb1, I think?

 

[Swisher]

There are two kinds of cannabis oil. One kind has THC in it, the other kind has CBD in it. THC will make you vomit, CBD won't. I'll google it again to be sure, but that's what I understand. There is a reaction you can get from the THC OIL the name of which starts with an h, the will cause you to throw up, but there are oils that stop you from throwing up. So those oils are a working alternative to antiemetic drugs.

Jameson found this...hope it's okay to say that...and Right You Are:
Cannabinoids are used in patients with cachexia,cytotoxic nausea, and vomiting, or who areunresponsive to other agents. These may cause changes in perception, dizziness, and loss ofcoordination.[3]...

I wrote this part. But this is a copy and paste endorsing , what you said. I didn't find this...it was posted by someone else as he tried to find Antiemeics? It is the THC which makes you sick. I'll guess he would have the link. It's quite a comprehensive listing -

 

[Jameson]

Where did you find this! You answered someone else's question. bb1, I think?

Just Wikipedia antiemetic .

 

[Jameson]

I'm afraid of the bathroom idea. I would want to see if that grill is tolerable or burning my lungs & you can't get the door open fast enough if it's bolted. There is... yes, there really is/was a group of people who did/do assisted suicides (I'll find the link). All these
deaths seemed completely natural
except one thing...their ("patients") arms were always folded "comfortably" across their bodies. Somehow someone thought it was odd & with the advent of computers began relating some of these deaths to one another. Some of the participants ("assistors") began to talk too. They said that even though the helium was "painless", assitors, more than one, would have hold the arms of these "patients" down bcuz instinctively they'd try to remove (claw at?) the plastic bags from around their heads. Upon completion, they would then fold the deceased's hands peacefully across their bodies. WHAT!? That doesn't sound peaceful! Like you, I do not want to claw, vomit, cough, get discovered, or anything else but go to sleep. You could also (probably) save your sobriety ... I've been thinking about this forever, and all I can do now, is keep buying a little time. Who's been successful? And who CAN you partner with? I'm struggling because I think the answer is "no one" to both questions.

I am right there with you. I don't know who I trust. In a perfect situation I would rent a room
Perform the nitrogen or helium hood and my partner would remove all traces of the death. It would've considered heart failure. But I don't have that person and it's very very hard to bring this up. Even to the people who know me and the pain and struggle I go through. There is a very large window in the bathroom and it's a very large bathroom. Closet , double sinks and then another room for the bath tub and shower and toilet. So plenty of room and no one home for approx 14 hours or more. And I would have signs directing traffic I even thought of 2 charcoal grills just to be sure. I guess I can make a post for Tampa area people and possibly find someone that way but I'd have to do all my massive search's about that person until I was satisfied .

 

[Jameson]

Oops, clarify...I always think by snorting you lose some when you wipe your nose

Your Probably right , it's just hits you a little harder and faster but you do lose some. I just thought of something ! you can crush them up and make a paste and plug it. Fastest absorption nothing to vomit. Just need an anal syringe or reusable ass cleaner thingy. Damn I can't think of the name .

 

[Swisher]

You're in the US, right? To be continued... Tomorrow, I will talk to my pharmacist. He's a nice guy...& He's all about receptors and drug interactions etc... I also know that if I wait, I could go to the hospital. I WILL be admitted and end up with a new prescription of migraine killer and Zofran ( migraine killer -which I think everyone calls "N"?) I just Don't want to get stuck there.
Thank you everybody.

 

[Swisher]

I've heard new cars can but no idea on mechanism, reliability, peacefulness, etc etc. Old cars it was peaceful because of high CO concentration. I was curious is it possible to remove or sabotage the catalytic converter on a car to make this method more viable? I don't have a car so it's just pure interest from me.

Sorry, one last thing about the article I read on new cars and emissions...it said use leaded gasoline. The nozzle won't fit but you can easily fill containers

 

[Jameson]

Sorry, one last thing about the article I read on new cars and emissions...it said use leaded gasoline. The nozzle won't fit but you can easily fill containers

 

[Widowmom]

Can anyone suggest how/where to buy roxicodone and/or fetanyl? I live in Denmark - the post office catches all incoming pills.
Thanks

 

[Jameson]

You are correct. With the new emissions the garage method is very unreliable method. I drive a 2016 accord very very clean emissions .

Can anyone suggest how/where to buy roxicodone and/or fetanyl? I live in Denmark - the post office catches all incoming pills.
Thanks

That's a tough one. It's tough because unless you see them coming out of the script bottle then I wouldn't trust them, there's to many presses out there that make them look like the real thing