Nitrogen asyphaxion

[ENJOYTILLYOUCAN]

I am a new user here so I would like to say hello to everyone!

I recently got myself nitrogen 10 l 200 bar (2000 L in total) , a nitrogen flow regulator and the rest of the kit (pipe, exit bag). As an exit bag i used the rubbish bag which is 40 L big.


I would like to ask a question to whoever used this method.
After i filled up the bag with gas and then breathed oxygen out and quickly put the bag over my head, for the first few seconds nothing hapenned but out of a sudden i had a feeling like i am on a rollercoaster (i could see it in front od my eyes), i could hear many people around. I quickly took the bag off after a while as i didnt know what happening.
Now my question is , is this due to loosing consiouss??

 

[Sparx]

Sounds like it was starting to work. You might get tunnel/grey vision, hear a ringing noise, start feeling dizzy/giddyness. Rapid heartbeat, tingling in the extremities and faster breathing too.

When loss of consciousness happens it should be quite abrupt, like fainting.

 

[ENJOYTILLYOUCAN]

Do you get sort of dreams when unconsious? Like this could be a dream?

 

[Sparx]

Possibly yes. In the IG megathread one user tested his nitrogen to unconsciousness and reported experiencing flashbacks from his childhood when under.

 

[ENJOYTILLYOUCAN]

Thank You Sparx. Your message solved my question. Now if id stay in that state for more then a minute, im guessing i would die right? Im just worried that 2000 l of nitrogen wont be enough and ill wake up with a damaged brain and possibly totally disabled. Is 2000 l (10 l at 200 bar) enough to kill me?

 

[Sparx]

As long as you reach unconciousness and aren't interrupted for 10-15 minutes you'll ctb. 2000L at the standard 15L/min is over 2 hours, more than enough.

 

[ENJOYTILLYOUCAN]

You made me happy. Thank You Sparx. I feel safer now
I am just wondering, how to brake my survival instinct to do this once and for all. Any ideas ?

 

[Amor Fati]

You made me happy. Thank You Sparx. I feel safer now
I am just wondering, how to brake my survival instinct to do this once and for all. Any ideas ?

To break your survival instinct is to completely lose hope in life and have no emotions at all. It'll probably be easier to do it then.

 

[ENJOYTILLYOUCAN]

Do you think it will be okay to drink a bit of vodka before pulling the exit bag on?

 

[DeadManLiving]

Do you think it will be okay to drink a bit of vodka before pulling the exit bag on?

Of course. Why not even add Benzos to the mix to calm nerves?

 

[ENJOYTILLYOUCAN]

What benzos would You suggest

 

[DeadManLiving]

What benzos would You suggest

Any. Annie benzodanapine will arrest and aggravate respiration to point of failure. If you're going to CTB, why panic in the process? Go on a benzo honeymoon spree, try a variety and pick your favorite poison.

 

[GasMonkey]

Do you think it will be okay to drink a bit of vodka before pulling the exit bag on?
What benzos would You suggest

I don't think that would be optimal, that could relax your breathing, and you want to breath the gas as good as possible. :)
Also if you vomit you could run into trouble.

 

[ENJOYTILLYOUCAN]

There is one more point to mention. What about the bag blowing up? When the nitrogen is pumped into th3 bag, it may pop like a baloon?

 

[GasMonkey]

15 LPM is not enough to blow up anything.
If you have fear about the construction quality of the bag, you could get the EEBD hood.

 

[ENJOYTILLYOUCAN]

Hello again. Today was my 4th attempt. After pulling thr bag over my head and breathing in nitrogen, my legs started jumping. Is this normal? I cant relax really when breathing in nitrogen

 

[LookAway]

@GasMonkey
Oh wait shit he commented already

 

[GasMonkey]

Is this normal?

1. What's the purity rating of your Nitrogen?
2. Did you pre-fill correctly?
3. Did you have a sufficient gap in the neck for CO₂ purging?
4. Did you hyperventilate for 1~2 minutes before starting (to reduce plasmatic CO₂ concentration)?
5. Did you fully empty your lungs before inserting your head into the bag (so the first exhalation doesn't fill the bag with CO₂)?
6. Was your first inhalation super deep?
7. Did you read the inert gas chapter on the PPeH and PPH Essentials?

 

[ENJOYTILLYOUCAN]

Firstly, thank you @GasMonkey for your reply.

1. What's the purity rating of your Nitrogen? 100 %
2. Did you pre-fill correctly? Bought it online , ready, pre filled
3. Did you have a sufficient gap in the neck for CO₂ purging? I did few breaths in and out
4. Did you hyperventilate for 1~2 minutes before starting (to reduce plasmatic CO₂ concentration)? No
5. Did you fully empty your lungs before inserting your head into the bag (so the first exhalation doesn't fill the bag with CO₂)? No
6. Was your first inhalation super deep? No
7. Did you read the inert gas chapter on the PPeH and PPH Essentials? No

And one more thing. Is my bag too big? Im using this plastic bag :

Bacofoil Kitchen Swing Bin Liners 50l Pack of 15, 15bags from Bacofoil | Motatos

Bacofoil Kitchen Swing Bin Liners 50l Pack of 15, 15bags from Bacofoil | Great for the planet and your wallet. Nationwide delivery

www.motatos.co.uk

Its quite big

 

[GasMonkey]

100 %

Impossible, there is no 100% purity.
The most common ratings are:
▪ 2.8 (99.8%)
▪ 4.0 (99.99%)
▪ 5.0 (99.999%)
▪ 6.0 (99.9999%)

Bought it online , ready, pre filled

I mean pre-filling the bag on top of your head before pulling it down.

I did few breaths in and out
No
No
No
No

Ok, so you did everything wrong, now you know where the problem is.

Is my bag too big?

Seems big yeah.
Try to get a size similar to the plans on the PPeH.

And read the inert gas chapter on the PPeH/PPH Essentials, that's basically mandatory.

 

[wellherewego_]

Will you try again? Also where are you in the world? I would like to get some of the stuff you purchased and attempt but I am just starting searching. Lastly, before you try again, I agree with @Amor Fati … you have to loose all hope. I struggled with that once so I plan to have 2 very well thought out methods and once they've arrived and I have my (very few) affairs in order I will do a lot of self-talk building me up to complete CTB. Unafraid of what my body will do. Heck, it fails me enough without me trying to CTB so just pretend you're sick or something and know that it will pass and you can do it!

All in all I wish you relief in any shape or form that comes.

 

[ENJOYTILLYOUCAN]

Has any of You been planning a specific day You want to ctb? If so, what makes that day special? Are you planning on last special meal?

 

[starlightsun]

Also planning to ctb with this method. If you're interested in what to do about SI I'm happy to message.

No specific date. And probably no special meal, maybe a beer. I wish you relief and peace as well.

 

[blacksand]

I am a new user here so I would like to say hello to everyone!

I recently got myself nitrogen 10 l 200 bar (2000 L in total) , a nitrogen flow regulator and the rest of the kit (pipe, exit bag). As an exit bag i used the rubbish bag which is 40 L big.


I would like to ask a question to whoever used this method.
After i filled up the bag with gas and then breathed oxygen out and quickly put the bag over my head, for the first few seconds nothing hapenned but out of a sudden i had a feeling like i am on a rollercoaster (i could see it in front od my eyes), i could hear many people around. I quickly took the bag off after a while as i didnt know what happening.
Now my question is , is this due to loosing consiouss??

I passed out from inhaling a balloon of argon and had no symptoms of it. Just missing time between leeting go of the ballon and being on the ground 40 seconds later. Perhaps your bag is too big. Using an EEBD hood or scba seems like the ideal way to use gas.