Venting NHS ARE WATCHING THIS WEBSITE I HAVE BEEN SECTIONED THIS MORNING!!!

[GoneGoneGone]

The inside circle bit

Like obviously everyone has a cover story or something. You want to really blow up theirs? Doubtful that users here really bought the Croatia story. I only buy the UK stories seeing how much you moan about the NHS

 

[TAW122]

I'm very sorry to hear about your situation and this is very, very unsettling that they are doing this to you. I lend you my anger towards those "pro-lifers", they are nothing more than a bunch of pesky, busybody do-gooders! I curse them with every breath that I exhale until the day I am no longer on this shitty rock.

We know we've been under attack for quite some time. No one understands us. Everyone thinks that if we believe we want to die, something must be psychologically wrong with us. They're blind. They just don't understand, nor do they want to.

Very true, and the last sentence sums them up in a nutshell. (Also emphasized the last part too).

 

[Forgotten]

Wow, no offense but the UK sounds like a Orwell's 1984 novel. I haven't given any personal info here, but here in my country you could have my full name and address and the police or any other services couldn't care less if I'm planning suicide, they only respond to cases that happen in public or in cases where the person could harm others, otherwise they only go if there is a dead body.

 

[Mm80]

Dude like stop with this, what is your purpose?
To draw attention to the user and who knows who is reading this, or to show that you're in the 'inside circle' and that they're not from Croatia? Like what do you hope to achieve?

I

Dude like stop with this, what is your purpose?
To draw attention to the user and who knows who is reading this, or to show that you're in the 'inside circle' and that they're not from Croatia? Like what do you hope to achieve?

Dude stop with the paranoia pls.
First of all we are talking about a whole country. Somehow i dont think law enforcement will be searching the whole country for her because she is on here. Plus from casually knowing her on here, i dont believe she gives a fuck anyway.
Inside circle? Come on dude there isnt an inside circle.
In fact I'd go as far as saying most people and authorities don't give a fuck about the members on here. If you believe that the nhs or any other health authority pays its staff to sit on this website and try to save people... Come on dude.

Like obviously everyone has a cover story or something. You want to really blow up theirs? Doubtful that users here really bought the Croatia story. I only buy the UK stories seeing how much you moan about the NHS

The croatia story?
So let me get this right @mahakali88 is not from....that country that we shouldn't mention for privacy reasons?

 

[Meditation guide]

most people and authorities don't give a fuck about the members on here

Don't be so naive. Of course there are people who actively get involved in trying to rescue people and although to you it seems ridiculous it most definitely does not seem that way to them.

 

[BipolarGuy]

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Dude stop with the paranoia pls.
First of all we are talking about a whole country. Somehow i dont think law enforcement will be searching the whole country for her because she is on here. Plus from casually knowing her on here, i dont believe she gives a fuck anyway.
Inside circle? Come on dude there isnt an inside circle.
In fact I'd go as far as saying most people and authorities don't give a fuck about the members on here. If you believe that the nhs or any other health authority pays its staff to sit on this website and try to save people... Come on dude.

I don't know exactly what this is referring to because for the last hour and half I've been walking into my city to get a massage - I'm waiting for it now - and I haven't read the whole thread.

But earlier in the thread I did try to put an end to the infantile paranoia, which I believe has been caused by the title of the thread.

It's really very simple, guys:
It was the freemasons.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

I

Dude stop with the paranoia pls.
First of all we are talking about a whole country. Somehow i dont think law enforcement will be searching the whole country for her because she is on here. Plus from casually knowing her on here, i dont believe she gives a fuck anyway.
Inside circle? Come on dude there isnt an inside circle.
In fact I'd go as far as saying most people and authorities don't give a fuck about the members on here. If you believe that the nhs or any other health authority pays its staff to sit on this website and try to save people... Come on dude.

Like for whatever reason (joke etc) you think you're doing this, please stop disclosing their real or pretend country, who does it help, apart from you to have a laugh? Most of the times you're funny, this time big fail.

 

[Mm80]

Like obviously everyone has a cover story or something. You want to really blow up theirs? Doubtful that users here really bought the Croatia story. I only buy the UK stories seeing how much you moan about the NHS

Youve got me. Im not actually from the uk. I was born there but...
Ive been living on Mars for the past 3 years. Rent is cheaper and ive got a lovely little bungalow there.
Come on dude.

 

[BipolarGuy]

Anyway...how do we think @Passerby is doing?

 

[Mm80]

I don't know exactly what this is referring to because for the last hour and half I've been walking into my city to get a massage - I'm waiting for it now - and I haven't read the whole thread.

But earlier in the thread I did try to put an end to the infantile paranoia, which I believe has been caused by the title of the thread.

It's really very simple, guys:
It was the freemasons.

Haha.

I don't know exactly what this is referring to because for the last hour and half I've been walking into my city to get a massage - I'm waiting for it now - and I haven't read the whole thread.

But earlier in the thread I did try to put an end to the infantile paranoia, which I believe has been caused by the title of the thread.

It's really very simple, guys:
It was the freemasons.

Haha love the twist at the end

 

[Xander_McG]

If you believe that the nhs or any other health authority pays its staff to sit on this website and try to save people... Come on dude.

They maybe don't pay them to sit on this website, but they do pay them to actively try and help people (well most of them do anyway).

I've just been signed off back to my GP this morning by the crisis mental health team and while she was on the phone she was asking me about what methods I'd been researching, where I'd bought my equipment and where I was getting all the information from. Obviously I told her nothing but going by what she was asking it sounds like they are at least interested in the kind of websites/forums like this

 

[Mm80]

Like for whatever reason (joke etc) you think you're doing this, please stop disclosing their real or pretend country, who does it help, apart from you to have a laugh? Most of the times you're funny, this time big fail.

I suppose

They maybe don't pay them to sit on this website, but they do pay them to actively try and help people (well most of them do anyway).

I've just been signed off back to my GP this morning by the crisis mental health team and while she was on the phone she was asking me about what methods I'd been researching, where I'd bought my equipment and where I was getting all the information from. Obviously I told her nothing but going by what she was asking it sounds like they are at least interested in the kind of websites/forums like this

Yeah fair point its probably somewhere in between the two extremes. I just don't think they have the resources to be so proactive.
My guess is that they were made aware by a third party on this occasion.
Hope your crisis has settled a bit.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Youve got me. Im not actually from the uk. I was born there but...
Ive been living on Mars for the past 3 years. Rent is cheaper and ive got a lovely little bungalow there.
Come on dude.

How self-absorbed you are... I meant "you" as in the SS users who complain about the NHS.

 

[Meditation guide]

I just don't think they have the resources to be so proactive

Why in the world would you think that? This is life or death. Many people feel very strongly about rescuing suicidal people. Of course there are resources for it. I hope everyone realizes this is not a safe site to post things about taking your own life on. It's announcing in public you are trying to kill yourself basically and is open for the world to see.

There are so many people who make it their business to snoop here and want to rescue people. UK seems to be the worst in this regard as far as I can tell.

 

[Mm80]

Like for whatever reason (joke etc) you think you're doing this, please stop disclosing their real or pretend country, who does it help, apart from you to have a laugh? Most of the times you're funny, this time big fail.

I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I personally don't think many people on here would lie abour which country they live in and i think thsts a very distrusting view. For this site to work there has to be at least a basic level of trust.
Dude you literally kicked me in the balls when you said i failed. So sore.

 

[Xander_McG]

I think it just all depends what area you're from. If you're from a bigger area with more cities and what have you there will be less of an interest in it because of the amount of cases they have to deal with and the stresses that theyre under. More quiet areas will probably have time to spend with each different person and try to get to the bottom of everything.

Hope your crisis has settled a bit.

A little bit, I was just getting fed up with the phonecalls everyday so I just let them hear what they wanted lol. I still feel like shit everyday and still plan on CTB whenever the time comes, but thank you for your concern :)

 

[BipolarGuy]

Why in the world would you think that? This is life or death. Many people feel very strongly about rescuing suicidal people. Or course there are resources for it. I hope everyone realizes this is not a safe site to post things about taking your own life on. It's announcing in public you are trying to kill yourself basically and is open for the world to see.

"Of course there are resources for it".

What exactly do you suggest is happening?

 

[Mm80]

How self-absorbed you are... I meant "you" as in the SS users who complain about the NHS.

Why cant we complain about the nhs? Or at least say what its faults are?

 

[schopenh]

On the one hand we have this thread, but on the other we had this one too: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/nhs-crisis-team-are-useless.49017/

NHS is being portrayed as a super stealthy org that spies on people online and sections them based on their posts, and simultaneously as an org that doesn't give a damn about people claiming they want to die (their crisis team told this person to watch mindfulness videos on YouTube when they were feeling suicidal). What to believe?

They're not mutually exclusive actions. They both make sense in the context of a disparate and detached mental healthcare. It's conceviable to me that a therapist in Manchester was cold and uncaring to a patient while another in South London spends their evenings on sanctioned suicide believing they are saving patients in their down time.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Why cant we complain about the nhs? Or at least say what its faults are?

Please stop twisting my words. I said I believe that certain users are from the UK because they complain about the NHS. For everyone else, I don't hold my breath.

Never have I said that you shouldn't complain about the NHS, or mention its flaws. Please don't add words just for your amusement.

 

[checkouttime]

I don't understand the need to give someone your name?? the fact is also, the name you are given, it actually real.

also if a person writes something on here, who says they aren't just making it up (i'm pretty sure alot is,especially lately). so how would they act on the information, how do they know who is telling the truth and who isn't. are they going to arrest and section every person on this site, even if they knew names and address. i doubt it, they can't even catch real criminals!!

 

[Mm80]

Please stop twisting my words. I said I believe that certain users are from the UK because they complain about the NHS. For everyone else, I don't hold my breath.

Never have I said that you shouldn't complain about the NHS, or mention its flaws. Please don't add words just for your amusement.

Ok dude. In case you have forgot what you put a few minutes ago, ill remind you of your exact words...

How self-absorbed you are... I meant "you" as in the SS users who complain about the NHS.

I haven't twisted any words i simply asked why we shouldnt criticise the nhs.

 

[StateOfMind]

They tracked you down and arrested you with such little information? The NHS must have a better intel network than the KGB...

Or the CIA, NSA, GHCQ, BND etc but honestly not surprised. 1984 has long arrived.

 

[Mm80]

Why in the world would you think that? This is life or death. Many people feel very strongly about rescuing suicidal people
. Of course there are resources for it. I hope everyone realizes this is not a safe site to post things about taking your own life on. It's announcing in public you are trying to kill yourself basically and is open for the world to see.

There are so many people who make it their business to snoop here and want to rescue people. UK seems to be the worst in this regard as far as I can tell.
[/QUOTE

Ill address the points one by one.

This is life or death". It can be, but generally its not that extreme and is somewhere in the middle. Most of the conversations dont involve a tangible lead for a rescuer. Ie im ctb in 30 mins using ... method. Most threads are discussions (granted, many about ctb) but you cannot really be sectioned for talking about ctb unless you are specifically showing that your a danger to yourself and need immediate help.

"Many people feel very strongly about rescuing suicidal people" I agree with This.

Why in the world would you think that? Of course there are resources for it.
Firstly i agree that there are resources but i dont believe they would be widely used to put staff on here. The nhs has finite resources. These resources have to be managed wisely, and be used in the most effective way.
In the uk, approx 17 people a day die from suicide. This forum is global and we dont lose anywhere near that number per day on here. We might get a handful of goodbye threads per week, globally.
So lets specualte that we lose one uk member per week on a goodbye thread on here. In the wider community approx 119 people have ctb. So percentage wise less than 1 percent of uk suicides have took place and showed a trace here. I think it would be a lot less than 1 percent tbh.
It wouldnt make sense to put your staff on here just in case they can catch someone. Plus if someone was in london or a big city, they would have to find that person somehow.
It would make more sense to deploy your resources on real leads ie mental health referrals, recent hospital admissions, checking up on known vulnerable people, than an elusive forum like this.

 

[StateOfMind]

@Mm80
I think you fucked the quote tags in your post..

 

[Mm80]

I think you fucked the quote t

@Mm80
I think you fucked the quote tags in your post..

Thanks man.
Im really tired today so fucking everything up lol

Arghhhh

 

[DyingAlf]

They're not mutually exclusive actions. They both make sense in the context of a disparate and detached mental healthcare. It's conceviable to me that a therapist in Manchester was cold and uncaring to a patient while another in South London spends their evenings on sanctioned suicide believing they are saving patients in their down time.

I think this is a very good point.
While most mental health professionals I have come across have been useless &/or uncaring &/or limited by funding constraints &/or plain nasty, there is the occasional one here & there that goes above & beyond to try to really help their patients (unfortunately they tend to be prolifers who will do anything they can to prevent suicides).

edit: Also, I suspect that it may have been someone else, not necessarily someone from the NHS, who doxxed OP & reported them to the NHS.

 

[Sinkinshyp]

are there any petitions against this site in the UK like there are in the US? I'm so sorry that happened OP. I hope your time in psych is short. Always avoid giving real name and general area. One thing I notice is forum stats. There is always more non members on than actual members viewing the forums. It makes me somewhat paranoid that people trying to shut this forum down are looking at it to find more weapons to use against us. Because most of the forum doesn't need membership to see. You should always think about that before you post! Is your post going to end up on their change org page to be used against the entirety of SS.

While I have been very honest about some information I am not concerned about being locked in psych. I've not given out enough to track down who I am. I swallowed 50 oxycodone pills and at least 20 trazadone with it. I spent 1-2 days in emergency they hit me with narcan and I slept. The guy babysitting me said boy you have been out when I asked to go to restroom. Yeah trazadone makes ya sleep. I spent 30 hours in the psych hospital saw the psych it was determined they dont take my insurance and they sent me home. The nurse there wsa in the process of tracking down some of my meds as they didn't carry them- I take meds for a lot of things. That may have helped to. I'm fairly certain I could drink a couple of cups on their doorsteps.

 

[Nature_is_God]

I don't like to cuss on here a lot but fuck those fucking pro-life assholes.

 

[lotus11]

Honestly, I wish the NHS cared about this much, I make an effort to go to appointments with all sorts of people to try to explain how ill i am and what help i need and they still couldn't give a shit