My response to Tantacrul and his video.

[new2blue]

I used to be anti suicide to a degree. I studied some psychology at university. I wanted to spend my life helping others, I suppose I still do. What changed was that my mental health deteriated because of some physical health issues that lead to many months of lack of sleep. I haven't had a good night's sleep in years, my doctors don't seem to care. I have been medicated for most my life, I suspect it did me a lot of good, but perhaps it played a role in my declining mental health over the decades.

I love life. I have not been "brainwashed". The mental anguish I feel has been everlasting. I think people critise because they had the good fortune to not experience immense and prolonged suffering. I am almost glad they are so happy to live they feel the need to pick on others who don't. It means they are reaping the rewards of a life where peace and suffering are balanced.

I have suffered all my life, but now in my thirties, I can't just suffer endlessly unable to work or provide. Perhaps in a better world I could. This place, it's genuinely important. It brings people together. It saves people, perhaps more than it doesn't. And even if everyone can't be saved, that's okay. We don't want anything other than to find peace. At least here, we can find it together.

 

[mizu23]

it's funny honestly because his video is why alottt of us are here in the first place (including me)

if he truly gave a shit and didn't want people to find this site, he wouldn't have posted the video to his thousands of subscribers to see..i truly pity someone who's that idiotic

 

[Readytogo246]

This is a sacred space. Thank you for stepping up to defend it!

 

[H25pital Order]

Not only does Tantacrul's fanbase find SS more interesting than his typical content, but YouTube demonetised it!

 

[Passenger01]

Theres always going to be some 'saviour of the world' type thinking they have to launch some sort of crusade - not watched this idiots videos but seems they thought it would be some kind of moneyspinner into the bargain. What a twisted little grotbag.

 

[OcularFear]

Honestly my opinion on it is that people should be free to die if they want to, why do people feel like they have the right to torture others by forcing them to live? It's cruel and inhumane, they allow their feelings of preservation of life get in the way of what the person is actually feeling, they chalk it up to "mental illness" and stuff us full of drugs that would kill a damn a pig until we behave and act like everyone else.

We shouldn't be forced to live as zombies stuffing drugs down our throats just to feel normal and happy. I just wish dying was easier. Because I'd be dead already, I don't want to suffer anymore, and neither do a lot of other people I know, they only live because dying is somehow harder than staying alive now. It's sickening. Just let us die, and be at peace rather than be at war with ourselves.

 

[mortuarymary]

This is a cult? No shit lol

 

[MiMif]

Unrelated but your so good at writing gosh.

Also thanks for this I feel heard

 

[Kevin_Logan]

That video made me investigate this site and I gotta say it looks like he cherry picked info

He didnt cherry picked info, he completally fabricated info.

 

[iloverachel]

I know this thread is a bit old, but I just learnt about Tentacrul and caught up with the whole thing, and I want to say well done on this thread. I have read it all and want to thank you for clearing up so many misconceptions about this site.
I am so glad you cleared up all the rumors spread by that disgrace of a YouTuber Tentacrul. Seeing him blame this site for the death of a minor made me so upset and you guys did the right thing by banning him and defending our site and its values.

 

[Oblivion]

the funny thing is the site's visitor tripled because of his video lol

 

[author]

I'm quite late to this too, but I found this video while looking for video essays and immediately recognized the layout / abbreviation for this site. First off, wonderful summary OP. Personally wish I had only read the summary instead of also watching the video, but I was curious why he was being so negative. It was so distressing to watch that I could barely get through it though. It felt horrible to have him question why I'm still alive.

I truly feel for his grieving, but that is no excuse to claim that people here are directly responsible for someone's death. There is no guarantee that Bobby C would have been alive if SS never existed - and in fact many people, including myself, are helped by this site.

When I came first here, I was in a place where I couldn't talk about my problems. I'd been traumatized by my last hospitalization. I didn't want to risk that again. This forum gave me the one place I could talk about my depression without worrying, or feeling like I was being a burden. I found people like me, and nobody has encouraged me to die or dissuaded me from getting help as he claims people do here. On the contrary, I've been offered compassion and advice on living.

Since coming here, my desire to die has vastly decreased. I'm still depressed, but I'm not actively trying to die. I mostly stay in the recovery/off-topic sections nowadays, but if this site hadn't existed or got shut down, I might have actually gotten worse because I wouldn't have had a safe community to talk to.

It's so disheartening to hear him claim to care about suicidal people, while also coming after the same suicidal people as if we're monsters who get off on watching each other die. The comments on that video are even worse. I couldn't even get halfway through the video before I had to stop. He blatantly lied and slandered everyone on this website, the vulnerable people he claims to care for.

He's truly shameful.

 

[MlemMy]

I'm even later to the party than the previous commenters, but i did create my account pretty much with the sole purpose of leaving this comment, so...
Yes, i did come from Tantacrul's video (which i only watched for about 5 minutes before starting to search for SS), and while it did make you all look bad... as someone who is suicidal and has been a part of "pro-ed" spaces for a while, i know how the mainstream villainizes mentally ill people who don't hide their struggles. I mean, they do the exact same thing with pro-ana; apparently, we're all nothing but evil wenches who want your children to starve themselves to death, so our forums NEED to be shut down... from experience, i kind of guessed the guy was probably one of those people who are loud about "advocating for mental health" but not if it means actually listening to the uncomfortable parts of it. It's 2024, and all this whole "acceptance" movement brought forward was a socially acceptable way to be ill; if you don't fit in, you better keep your thoughts in therapy (since telling us to keep it to ourselves would out them as what they really are: hypocritical and uncaring).
While i am supportive of this site's existence, i have a suggestion. I've read some of the replies here so i know i'm not the first to say this, but... i do think SS would benefit from having a "membership" system like Pancake does. The way it is now, anyone could see any content posted here without even making an account, meaning any desperate soul could simply browse the "Method" tag and do something irreversible without properly reflecting upon it. The hassle of having to sign up would deter, at least, the impulsive in that moment. Also, as a former minor, i can attest that the "Are you over 18?" check can't really be trusted, and i'm afraid there really isn't much you can do to stop kids from joining. Verifying each individual registration request is enough of a task for such a small team, now trying to somehow ascertain that everyone's details match up with their real life selves? It really isn't viable, specially due to this forum's nature.
That's all, sorry for giving my two cents that absolutely no one asked for LOL

 

[TANETS]

I've watched the video and it did make me think a lot. I don't think his intentions are bad per se, but I do question the choice of publicizing a video on this site with very careless attempts at censoring the sites true identity, ultimately causing Streisand effect.

I also find the use of the world cult purposefully dishonest.

What I do find weird is the comments questioning why "cat123 hasn't taken their life yet," and portraying this user as someone who takes sadistic pleasure in suicide rather than someone who is suicidal themselves. Asking why someone hasn't taken their life is pretty… . I mean isn't the point of the video to prevent suicide? So why question why a person hasn't ctb. That's pretty cruel.

People have to understand that a lot of suicidal people have done it all, thinking of the positives, therapy, medications… and they just don't work. I don't agree with romanticizing suicide, there's nothing beautiful about being unhappy, and I'm sure most people on this site would agree. There's so much someone on the internet can do that a therapist, medications, and a persons loved ones hasn't when it comes to discouraging suicide.

You really don't get it until you're actively living through it.