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timetodie24

Arcanist
Apr 14, 2023
418
Survival rates at 50 mph are 30%, which I would personally consider fairly high. Survival continues to decrease the faster the vehicle is going, but there are a lot of variables in this that are out of your control. Drivers may not be able to stop before hitting you, but they will have some reaction of slowing down before they hit you & will instinctually try to swerve to avoid you, impacting your ability to aim for the wheel. Please consider all possibilities, so that if you do choose to pursue this it's well thought out & as safe as you can make such an uncontrollable scenario
The 30% figure is for car on car collision, which would be too high but I won't be in car . Figures vary but multiple sources suggest 10 % survival at 40mph for car vs. pedestrian . Almost certain death at 55mph for car on pedestrian but less exact estimates since pedestrians don't tend to be on roads that high speed.
I have researched it and will check out the area and plan everything in advance
 
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Esokabat

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Apr 22, 2024
321
Just remember that those cars and trucks contain actual people, adults, kids, elderly, pets, people with their own life, own pain, own traumas, you don't know who will hit you and how causing someone's death will impact them.
I don't see with so many other methods out there that only involves you and nobody else, you need a method that can potentially hurt other people physically and emotionally, and creating a traumatic experience not just for yourself, but for all others involved. It is a bit selfish. "I have voices in my head so I will make another human kill me". That is essentially what it boils down to.
 
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Tesha

Life too shall pass
May 31, 2020
609
Question for you - will you consider getting help for anxiety or paranoia, if you think they're affecting you at all? I appreciate you ruled out other stuff, but there seems to be a few things that are bothering you.
 
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timetodie24

Arcanist
Apr 14, 2023
418
Just remember that those cars and trucks contain actual people, adults, kids, elderly, pets, people with their own life, own pain, own traumas, you don't know who will hit you and how causing someone's death will impact them.
I don't see with so many other methods out there that only involves you and nobody else, you need a method that can potentially hurt other people physically and emotionally, and creating a traumatic experience not just for yourself, but for all others involved. It is a bit selfish. "I have voices in my head so I will make another human kill me". That is essentially what it boils down to.
I'm not happy about that either but as I said earlier- it's lesser of evils and for greater good.

Question for you - will you consider getting help for anxiety or paranoia, if you think they're affecting you at all? I appreciate you ruled out other stuff, but there seems to be a few things that are bothering you.
The anxiety and paranoia are only resulting from this situation so this is only solution
 
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timetodie24

Arcanist
Apr 14, 2023
418
Have decoded the time of day that I will do it, need to check date is certain though. It's all coming together now. I'm getting much better at connecting the dots so I am really sure this is right for everyone involved. The surveillance helicopter was flying closer last night so they know. Not sure if to drink alcohol beforehand and how much ? Any tips for increasing fatality are appreciated ?
 
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It'sMyLife

Little bundles of futile hope we are
Apr 18, 2020
102
May I ask you how you are receiving these messages and what form they take? If you've previously posted this my apologies to ask. Perhaps you could post a link to another thread if you have. I am unable to search due to your settings. I guess I'm just trying to understand how you carrying this out has any connection to the prevention of other future outcomes. Does this happen no matter where you are or just at certain times? I have a theory but will withhold it for now. I hope you are ok
 
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timetodie24

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Apr 14, 2023
418
Basically something has taken control of my mind and my life. There was a glitch that led to my survival so now others die in my place if I don't follow the rules and messages I receive (through thought control and voice in my head) . Talked about this across multiple threads so not sure how much this one will explain it but here's one :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/deciphering-message.166166/
May I ask you how you are receiving these messages and what form they take? If you've previously posted this my apologies to ask. Perhaps you could post a link to another thread if you have. I am unable to search due to your settings. I guess I'm just trying to understand how you carrying this out has any connection to the prevention of other future outcomes. Does this happen no matter where you are or just at certain times? I have a theory but will withhold it for now. I hope you are ok
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
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Basically something has taken control of my mind and my life. There was a glitch that led to my survival so now others die in my place if I don't follow the rules and messages I receive (through thought control and voice in my head) . Talked about this across multiple threads so not sure how much this one will explain it but here's one :
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/deciphering-message.166166/
Did you try to attempt but u did not go through? 🫂

Nobody else will die.
 
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cowboypants

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May 7, 2024
222
He had told it was 6th of June, now has decided on the time ig. Oddly enough he made a post month back similarly
 
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timetodie24

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Apr 14, 2023
418
Did you try to attempt but u did not go through? 🫂

Nobody else will die.
He had told it was 6th of June, now has decided on the time ig. Oddly enough he made a post month back similarly
I was supposed to do it successfully last year. The bridge I planned on was closed due to construction and backup bridge I chickened out on. That's when the system took control of me and started giving me demands because I shouldnt have lived past my meant to be death date .

Yes a month ago or bit longer I was given a date to ctb and again didn't do it. A relative did die as a result (suddenly, unexpectedly and they couldn't confirm a cause) . So i can't mess it up this time as proves what happens when I don't obey. I know I'm a weak, pathetic coward and you might not believe me but doesn't matter

* and i'm a she btw not he
 
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Lost Magic

Visionary
May 5, 2020
2,959
I personally believe you have OCD because you are making all this stuff about codes in your head, thinking it will protect your loved ones. I watched a man who in a documentary (which I will post) who believed if he didn't do all these rituals in the house it would cause his family members to die. Please, try and get some help, if you can. Best!
 
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timetodie24

Arcanist
Apr 14, 2023
418
I personally believe you have OCD because you are making all this stuff about codes in your head, thinking it will protect your loved ones. I watched a man who in a documentary (which I will post) who believed if he didn't do all these rituals in the house it would cause his family members to die. Please, try and get some help, if you can. Best!

Thanks for suggestion.
But as already explained, I'm not making it up, all the evidence supports me. I have already had lots of mental health support and assessments. Lets leave it to the professionals who agree I don't have mental illness anymore (just depression in past)
 
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keg-ireland

Member
May 3, 2024
49
Thanks for suggestion.
But as already explained, I'm not making it up, all the evidence supports me. I have already had lots of mental health support and assessments. Lets leave it to the professionals who agree I don't have mental illness anymore (just depression in past)
Theres no way a mental health professional wouldn't be extremely concerned at your recent posts. I understand that you fully believe in these messages and you think there is nothing wrong so would you do everyone here 1 favour even though you feel it's pointless? We would like you to repeat everything you said on here to your psychiatrist/Doctor - our concern is genuine and it's abundantly clear to us, but not you, that all this talk of messages and control is a psychotic episode. Even if you don't believe us all, please get checked out with your Dr as you need treated for this condition.

Genuinely concerned about you.
 
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cowboypants

Experienced
May 7, 2024
222
I was supposed to do it successfully last year. The bridge I planned on was closed due to construction and backup bridge I chickened out on. That's when the system took control of me and started giving me demands because I shouldnt have lived past my meant to be death date .

Yes a month ago or bit longer I was given a date to ctb and again didn't do it. A relative did die as a result (suddenly, unexpectedly and they couldn't confirm a cause) . So i can't mess it up this time as proves what happens when I don't obey. I know I'm a weak, pathetic coward and you might not believe me but doesn't matter

* and i'm a she btw not he
Ig the sequences aren't syncing that's a sign. If anything.

I'm sorry gorl.
 
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Esokabat

Specialist
Apr 22, 2024
321
So what does the surveillance helicopter know and why are they flying closer? Who are in the surveillance helicopter and how long have they been watching you? Have you mentioned to your doctor that you are being surveilled by a helicopter?
 
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BardBarrie

Experienced
Mar 17, 2024
260
No offense but none of what you've said sounds rational at all.
I know it's easy for me to say, but I would heed the advice of others here: it sounds like you're going through a paranoid/delusional episode.

Take care of yourself.
 
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timetodie24

Arcanist
Apr 14, 2023
418
So what does the surveillance helicopter know and why are they flying closer? Who are in the surveillance helicopter and how long have they been watching you? Have you mentioned to your doctor that you are being surveilled by a helicopter?
They have been watching me for maybe 5 months or so. Seeing when I go out, who I speak to etc. , making sure I'm following rules. They're either people directly controlling me or are being controlled too to watch me. They're getting closer as a warning. It is not hallucination as I have photos and videos of it. It's not a police or ambulance heli and before the surveillance, helicopters were vary rare where I live

I didn't tell the dr, they can't stop a helicopter. I did try to tell the dr more but couldn't physically get the words out on phone despite having written them. Those in control put a mind block on me. I am supposed to have another mental health nurse appt. but I should hopefully be gone before then as it is booked in week after my final day. They didn't have anything sooner but that's a good thing as means no risk of accidentally saying too much.
 
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Hvergelmir

Member
May 5, 2024
91
Look up 'targeted individuals' if you don't believe me
Why can't you just burn any chips out, with a strong magnetic pulse?

Not to reinforce any delusion, but I'm going to approach this as though your claims are fact.
I'm a tech nerd and professional, in a pretty good position to reason about electronics.
 
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timetodie24

Arcanist
Apr 14, 2023
418
Why can't you just burn any chips out, with a strong magnetic pulse?

Not to reinforce any delusion, but I'm going to approach this as though your claims are fact.
I'm a tech nerd and professional, in a pretty good position to reason about electronics.
There are no chips in my case. I don't understand the forces they use but there's no way I could've had any implants or devices put in me.
 
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Hvergelmir

Member
May 5, 2024
91
There are no chips in my case. I don't understand the forces they use but there's no way I could've had any implants or devices put in me.
So what makes you believe that you're being controlled by external forces, rather than internal ones?
 
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It'sMyLife

Little bundles of futile hope we are
Apr 18, 2020
102
Thanks for your reply and the link. I'll look at it now . I'll read it more thoroughly later. Firstly , I take your word that you have been checked out and do not have schizophrenia or any other disorders. You sound very intelligent to me but this doesn't preclude any disorders obviously and I'm sure you know that . Can I ask you a couple of other questions? It pertains to my theory which , yes, is a long shot and many people discount it immediately but it happens to some people. So have you recently moved before all of this started ? And do you live in a densely populated area? Just bear with me on this as I'm only trying to see if we can alleviate this even if temporarily . Also do you have your own car or access to transportation easily ? I ask this because I want to know if you can go somewhere else and see if a change of location would help. I'm talking about going out into the countryside . When something goes wrong with our minds or bodies it's either an internal problem you were born with or from an accident or it could be something environmental. My observations are that most experts usually ignore or discount environmental causes ( something you are exposed to and don't realize it often).
 
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LittleJem

Visionary
Jul 3, 2019
2,473
I got help to decode the message and that was all the help I needed. This is the only way . This is a good thing, a weight has been lifted and I feel the best I have in a long time at the thought of it

As I said above, 100% not-psychotic, no substance use and I don't even drink.
This will save others, they deserve that, they deserve to live and be happy.
Don't let those in control choose your suicide method.

You need to choose a kinder and more ethical method.

I suggest hanging if you want something guaranteed.
 
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timetodie24

Arcanist
Apr 14, 2023
418
So what makes you believe that you're being controlled by external forces, rather than internal ones?
Because there's a voice in my head that isn't mine, the thoughts aren't mine either. They use words I wouldn't use, talk in a way I wouldn't. They make me do things I wouldn't want to do and made bad things happen that I couldn't have directly myself.
Do you want to CTB or are you only wanting to do it so other people won't die? Can you test it and see that if you don't CTB and no one passes away that it was just a coincidence that a family member passed suddenly. Must be terribly frightening for you to feel the way that you do. If you want to CTB for your own reasons that's okay but if you're only doing it so someone else won't die, maybe you should test your theory.
Have tested my theory already as lots of bad things happen each time I break rules . I have lots of other reasons . It is the reason i have to ctb in this way but many reasons I want to die , long before the control started.
Thanks for your reply and the link. I'll look at it now . I'll read it more thoroughly later. Firstly , I take your word that you have been checked out and do not have schizophrenia or any other disorders. You sound very intelligent to me but this doesn't preclude any disorders obviously and I'm sure you know that . Can I ask you a couple of other questions? It pertains to my theory which , yes, is a long shot and many people discount it immediately but it happens to some people. So have you recently moved before all of this started ? And do you live in a densely populated area? Just bear with me on this as I'm only trying to see if we can alleviate this even if temporarily . Also do you have your own car or access to transportation easily ? I ask this because I want to know if you can go somewhere else and see if a change of location would help. I'm talking about going out into the countryside . When something goes wrong with our minds or bodies it's either an internal problem you were born with or from an accident or it could be something environmental. My observations are that most experts usually ignore or discount environmental causes ( something you are exposed to and don't realize it often).
Thank you so much for believing me and suggesting other causes. Haven't recently moved. It's not that densely populated. I have travelled since it started, to countryside and city but it still controlled me.
Don't let those in control choose your suicide method.

You need to choose a kinder and more ethical method.

I suggest hanging if you want something guaranteed.
i have to let them. If I choose something else, it will fail and others will die instead
 
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Esokabat

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Apr 22, 2024
321
I once rented a room from a lady in her 70s, she had this lovely house with flowers close to the sea, she volunteered with animals and poor people. She was lovely, soft spoken, always friendly and smiling, helping people. She was a flight attendant and a model at her younger years. She was kind and attentive with everyone like an ideal grandmother. Even though she was in her late 60s or early 70s, she was still very beautiful with very large blue eyes and a beautiful smile, you could tell that she was a model when younger. She was American and had an American accent. She was the gentlest, kindest person. She had schizophrenia which I didn't know when I rented the room. There were no signs, she was bright, kind, intelligent, gentle and friendly. After a few weeks I once woke up and she was talking to someone. There were nobody in the house. I found out she hears voices with an Irish accent (she has US accent) that told her a lot of nasty, even sexually explicit things, bad words that she has never used and the Irish voices tried to create some control over her. Hard to tell what was happening as she didn't like to talk about it but she would argue with them, ask them to go away, leave her alone. Everyone has a picture of what schizophrenia might look like, but this lady was like this lovely, bright, friendly, loving and gentle grandmother, she would help the poor, volunteer, she has a seaside beautiful house, big smile, intelligent conversation. All the neighbours knew her, and the people that knew her had absolutely no idea whatsoever that she had mental health issues.
 
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timetodie24

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Apr 14, 2023
418
I guess everyone here hates me. I never fit in anywhere in my life tbf. I was hoping maybe here people would be happy for me getting my exit but I guess not . Oh well . Peace to everyone
 
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Yarani

When I deserve it the least, I need love the most.
Mar 29, 2024
166
I guess everyone here hates me. I never fit in anywhere in my life tbf. I was hoping maybe here people would be happy for me getting my exit but I guess not . Oh well . Peace to everyone
Personally, I do not hate you. When I read your posts, I feel worried, sad, and helpless. Also, I am not happy when someone here dies. Primarily it makes me sad that this person has suffered so much. Only after that comes kind of a sentiment of relief in their place, for being finally free of that pain. It still is tinted with sadness.
I, too, wish you to find peace.
 
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ferrie

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May 19, 2024
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I guess everyone here hates me. I never fit in anywhere in my life tbf. I was hoping maybe here people would be happy for me getting my exit but I guess not . Oh well . Peace to everyone
I don't think anyone here hates you. Personally, I hope you are able to find peace and simply want you to be able to make well thought out decisions. Your method and behavior worries me bc it puts you at serious risk of injury, and will traumatize and may injure others
 
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iusedtobehappy

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Dec 2, 2023
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I guess everyone here hates me. I never fit in anywhere in my life tbf. I was hoping maybe here people would be happy for me getting my exit but I guess not . Oh well . Peace to everyone
I have mental illness too. I have had severe OCD starting when I was 7. My mom was bedridden and my grandmother came to take care of us. There was a lot of stress between my dad and grandmother and my sister and grandmother. I had to touch things a certain number of times or I was convinced my mom and grandma would die. I would literally hear someone telling me in my mind that I had to do that. Nobody hates you. I can tell you that no one will die if you don't go through with your plan but if you do, you will traumatize someone for life. When that happens, the trauma alters the persons brain chemistry and creates mental illness in them. Trust me, I understand how convincing those feelings can be. But I can tell you that no one will die if you don't go through with your plan. If you don't go through with it, you will actually save lives. Everyone posts here not because they hate you but because they care about you. Exiting is one thing, but doing it with a rational clearer mind with no deceptions is much better. Believe me, your mind is deceiving you.
 
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betternever2havbeen

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Jun 19, 2022
862
I guess everyone here hates me. I never fit in anywhere in my life tbf. I was hoping maybe here people would be happy for me getting my exit but I guess not . Oh well . Peace to everyone
Not at all! I'm sorry, we shouldn't be trying to diagnose you-you're right we are not doctors. But really whatever you are dealing with you need help. There are professionals that will know how to deal with this.
 
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Hvergelmir

Member
May 5, 2024
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Because there's a voice in my head that isn't mine, the thoughts aren't mine either. They use words I wouldn't use, talk in a way I wouldn't. They make me do things I wouldn't want to do and made bad things happen that I couldn't have directly myself.
Voices and seemingly foreign thoughts can definitely originate from ones own brain. If you look into the tulpa community, you'll find people voluntarily inducing such conditions.
With chips being ruled out, and your own brain being the only competing hypothesis, it do seem to be a likely culprit.
Like many have pointed out, I too think a second opinion from a doctor would be wise.
I guess everyone here hates me. I never fit in anywhere in my life tbf. I was hoping maybe here people would be happy for me getting my exit but I guess not . Oh well . Peace to everyone
You're not being hated. You might be poorly understood, and people might not agree with your conclusions, but I see no hate here.

From my perspective suicide due to mental condition can be justified. Suicide forced upon someone from external coercion is something I'd very much like to prevent though. What you're describing is someone murdering you in the most cruel way, and you planning on going along with it.

Btw, what would you recommend that I do, if voices coerced me to kill my self through cryptic messages?
What if it wasn't an unknown source doing it through cryptic messages, but an identifiable person and clear messages, let's say a member of SaSu or a relative? Would that make a difference?
 
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