Discussion Is bp/genetic determinism/lookism discussion still allowed on here?

[stepanch1k]

Is talking about incel adjacent content allowed on here, as long as there's no misogyny/discrimination? Also, in which section should it be talked about?
P.S. I'm a new user coming from blackpill/lookism forums

 

[_Gollum_]

I think discussing "lookism" is accepted but when you start getting into the more "biological"/"genetic" stuff then that's probably too far. I would also refrain from pointing out gender differences or turning it into a men vs women thing because those threads tend to explode very quickly and get locked. If lookism is related to your suicidality then it probably belongs in the main Suicide Discussion section but if it's about lookism itself then it probably belongs in Offtopic. Welcome to the forum.

 

[mawsonia]

I think it's fine if you express that you feel "hopelessly ugly," as it's something I think many people (including myself) can relate to.
It's also probably best to avoid talking about anything that could be construed as "gender war-y."

 

[rotthjärta]

I mean its a real thing but fuck if I know I haven't been here long enough. Theres a section for Politics and or Philosophy, I spoke about Ig sort of a Topic of being ugly and how it contributed to being treated different through out my life, some comments agreed or pitched in their experience so I think Lookism talk would be fine.

 

[AnxiousLife]

I would say they have a much higher censorship on these topics, than they should. Even on topics that are about scientifically proven issues

 

[extremelyugly]

I think discussing "lookism" is accepted but when you start getting into the more "biological"/"genetic" stuff then that's probably too far. I would also refrain from pointing out gender differences or turning it into a men vs women thing because those threads tend to explode very quickly and get locked. If lookism is related to your suicidality then it probably belongs in the main Suicide Discussion section but if it's about lookism itself then it probably belongs in Offtopic. Welcome to the forum.

Lookism is very much a genetic and biological thing though, so it would be pointless to talk about without considering it. About the gender war, sure, if it starts getting into an infight I agree, but lookism affects either sex differently, so if there isn't any forced invalidation of the other gender's experiences then it should be ok, right? Because some people (in the internet, idk about here) try to adamantly deny the existence of such a thing, either positive (Halo) or negative (Horns). Idk.

 

[Tobacco]

You could try but some people would immediately jump at it.

I could offer you to talk on PMs. Though I'm a failed normie.

 

[violetforever]

what is bp?

 

[mawsonia]

what is bp?

The "blackpill;" it's the idea that looks are everything in life (in dating or otherwise), that looks (and thus your fate) are determined at birth via your genetics, and that human nature creates a societal construct that makes the previous two things inescapable truths of life. Certain parts of it are very controversial topics and might cause a lot of arguments/chaos in threads so I imagine people would want to avoid talking about the topic too much to prevent people from fighting.

 

[violetforever]

The "blackpill;" it's the idea that looks are everything in life (in dating or otherwise), that looks (and thus your fate) are determined at birth via your genetics, and that human nature creates a societal construct that makes the previous two things inescapable truths of life. Certain parts of it are very controversial topics and might cause a lot of arguments/chaos in threads so I imagine people would want to avoid talking about the topic too much to prevent people from fighting.

oh yeah ive heard that term. i never saw it as an acronym though lol. i wasnt really familiar with what the description of it was so thx.

 

[extremelyugly]

The "blackpill;" it's the idea that looks are everything in life (in dating or otherwise), that looks (and thus your fate) are determined at birth via your genetics, and that human nature creates a societal construct that makes the previous two things inescapable truths of life. Certain parts of it are very controversial topics and might cause a lot of arguments/chaos in threads so I imagine people would want to avoid talking about the topic too much to prevent people from fighting.

I'm not the one who ask about the BP, but even though I admit I know mostly only the lookism part of the BP, and the deterministic nature of it, I think most people want to avoid looking at those stuff because it's a very uncomfortable truth about society, after all, being considered shallow is almost seen as an insult to basically everyone isn't it? But it's... mostly true. We are very, very shallow creatures, that one thing is undeniable; that it's mostly defined at birth is also true, and it attacks the "just world" mentality of most people, which is another reason most don't want to even entertain the idea of properly discussing it (well, there isn't much to discuss frankly but ok).
For me, the truth is that the actual insanity is denying its existance (lookism) and its importance (immense), and divert to typical bulletpoints about "confidence" or "personality" immediately, but what can I do? It's better to live in a delusion for most people.