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DiscussionIs anyone else suicidal but not depressed?
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I've struggled with depression all my life, but recently (the last year or so) I've seemed to grow out of my depression. Yet, I still feel the undying (ironic) urge to remove myself from this world. Does anyone else struggle with this?
I can say it with 100% surety that I am not depressed nor do I have any mental health problems. Yet I am very much committed on doing CTB. I have gathered all my required resources, just waiting for the right time.
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I can say it with 100% surety that I am not depressed nor do I have any mental health problems. Yet I am very much committed on doing CTB. I have gathered all my required resources, just waiting for the right time.
I had depressive episodes but I wouldn't say that I'm currently depressed - i mean there are no severe MH issues and the typical signs of depression and the like. However I'm still suicidal bc my situation that makes me suicidal has not changed at all. So yes it's possible to be not depressed even generally healthy and no MH issues but still be suicidal. I also have a method ready and plans to CTB should my situation become worse.
Is this urge rooted in something? Like a trauma, fear, or even past memory that's tempting you to ctb?
If it's not, and you're not depressed, I'd recommend you try narrative therapy because you're likely struggling with a "story" you've unconsciously created about life and the direction it should take. And it can be reversed because, as you can feel yourself, it's irrational to feel suicidal when you don't even have depression anymore. Also assuming there's no life circumstance that's making you think about ctb.
I'm depressed, at least by definition of depression. However, my reasons to ctb aren't because of depression. I want to ctb because of the state of the world and how I'm not designed for it. Depression is just a side effect of that, not the main course
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I had depressive episodes but I wouldn't say that I'm currently depressed - i mean there are no severe MH issues and the typical signs of depression and the like. However I'm still suicidal bc my situation that makes me suicidal has not changed at all. So yes it's possible to be not depressed even generally healthy and no MH issues but still be suicidal. I also have a method ready and plans to CTB should my situation become worse.
I think it's not that easy. I would say I'm not depressed (not severely depressed) but still suicidal bc of my overall situation. From a medical pov I'm certainly "depressed" but I don't really feel being "depressed". Well what would need to happen for an attempt? There's probably a trigger and then things go hand in hand, depression is back, suicidal thoughts may skyrocket in the same time and then there's only 1 step to be made to the actual attempt.
In my case it's not "depression" but rather just having awareness of how truly undesirable existence is, I cannot stand when people act like others are ill for wanting to permanently be relieved from having the ability to suffer.
Not wanting to suffer an isn't an "illness", no existence is the problem instead and under no circumstances would I ever wish to exist in this evil, repulsive world where there is literally no limit as to how torturous existing can get.
Only non-existence is ideal to me, I only wish for the peace of an dreamless, eternal sleep, in my case suicide is all that feels rational as I don't want to suffer in any way and in this world there is endless suffering, I have no interest in something as meaningless, cruel and futile as existence.
I'm depressed, at least by definition of depression. However, my reasons to ctb aren't because of depression. I want to ctb because of the state of the world and how I'm not designed for it. Depression is just a side effect of that, not the main course
Yeah and how I'll have to be a slave to the system for the rest of my life if I don't ctb. The state of the world is depressing. It sucks. I'm looking into exploring other options apart from ctb, but the only sure-fire way to solve my problems is still ctb
There are many more mental disorders beyond just depression. For example bipolar disorder, BPD, PTSD, OCD, etc can all make someone's life a living hell without them having classic depression symptoms. Also certain physical conditions such as chronic pain can lead to suicidal thoughts without the person being depressed.
I'm getting depressed again but suicide is actually quite rarely a result of depression. Those who actually proceed with suicide do it because their sense of belonging and connectedness to the world is severed and thwarted
This video, I resonate with what he says. It isn't just men who feel this way but his video was about men
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