I Wish This Whole World Would End ™️

[Sleeper System]

Anything to escape this hamster wheel called life.

Why does it feel like the past is brighter than the future?
Even if the past sucked, the future seems filled with even more hardship and struggle. I just want to be at peace.

Tired of waking up every day and working at a place I hate.
Will probably have to work until I die of natural causes. Die poor and in no better shape than I was when I started.
Sick of thinking about the economy and how one day I might not even have a place to live or be able to afford simple life necessities.

The only good thing is I don't have any children or a wife. I have 3 maybe 4 relatives and after they go I'm all alone. Even the government won't be able to help me when the time comes. I just feel so lost and everything is so pointless.

I go to sleep afraid. Afraid of losing what little I have. Afraid that more burden is going to be placed on me and I won't be able to take it.

I'm just tired. I know millions of people feel like this but somehow it feels so solitary like it's everyone in this world for themselves and that's supposed to be fine.
I dont know what's wrong with me. I wish I could fix me.

 

[Pentobarbital_Plz]

If I could press a button to end the entire world, I'd smash it

 

[3rdworldsadness]

If I could press a button to end the entire world, I'd smash it

I would do the same.

 

[dontwakemeup]

I wish we all could go and leave this world for the pro-lifers! With our luck we will all make it to the Guinness world record for being the oldest living people

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

Well, we're on the right track...

Doomsday Clock - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists

It is 89 seconds to midnight.

thebulletin.org

 

[voir2]

89 !

 

[Peter Skellern]

If I could press a button to end the entire world, I'd smash it

Not in a million years would I do that. Why would anyone want to deliberately harm others just because they themselves are suicidally unhappy? I don't want to harm anyone in my ctb.

 

[Roadrunner]

Everytime I read that an asteroid is approaching, I think "oh ya baby". The human race needs a refresh, it's become nasty and mean.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

If I could press a button to end the entire world, I'd smash it

Same, I'm slam dunking that button without a second thought.

Not in a million years would I do that. Why would anyone want to deliberately harm others just because they themselves are suicidally unhappy? I don't want to harm anyone in my ctb.

Death isn't a harm to the beings who are dead. The harm comes from the dying process which has to occur to everybody anyway regardless of what happens. None of us are immortal. I don't see any harm in pressing a button that immediately ends all sentient life on this planet. Genuine question, what's the harm being done?

 

[Peter Skellern]

Same, I'm slam dunking that button without a second thought.

Death isn't a harm to the beings who are dead. The harm comes from the dying process which has to occur to everybody anyway regardless of what happens. None of us are immortal. I don't see any harm in pressing a button that immediately ends all sentient life on this planet. Genuine question, what's the harm being done?

You'd be killing people who are entirely happy with their existence (possibly for the next 90+ years) because you're not. It's the S word. Selfish. Fine you're unhappy. Fine you want to ctb. Don't drag perfectly happy people into your unhappiness and the like. Make decisions for yourself. Not for people that have absolutely nothing to do with you.

 

[kvorumese]

You'd be killing people who are entirely happy with their existence (possibly for the next 90+ years) because you're not. It's the S word. Selfish. Fine you're unhappy. Fine you want to ctb. Don't drag perfectly happy people into your unhappiness and the like. Make decisions for yourself. Not for people that have absolutely nothing to do with you.

If I could make planet Earth disappear in an instant, I'd do it. It's not like anybody is going to care lol, they won't even notice

 

[ijustwishtodie]

You'd be killing people who are entirely happy with their existence (possibly for the next 90+ years) because you're not. It's the S word. Selfish. Fine you're unhappy. Fine you want to ctb. Don't drag perfectly happy people into your unhappiness and the like. Make decisions for yourself. Not for people that have absolutely nothing to do with you.

You didn't answer my question of how pressing the hypothetical button would cause harm. How is a being harmed if they were to die instantly without them knowing about it? You can't be harmed by non existence, it's just impossible. Also, a happy life always comes at the cost of other people's lives. I have no idea why you're solely thinking about humans having happy lives when the majority of this planet is comprised of animals who have to suffer horrifically due to predation and other things. How does a happy life justify all of the torture and pain that the other lives go through? What's the necessity of this happiness existing in this universe?

Also, it's ironic at how you keep on telling me to make decisions that affect myself only yet I bet that you support people procreating which is a decision that they imposed upon somebody else. Me ending all suffering on this planet is apparently a bad thing to you but life perpetuating until it all has to die anyway (since extinction is inevitable) is okay to you? So baffling

 

[Peter Skellern]

You didn't answer my question of how pressing the hypothetical button would cause harm. How is a being harmed if they were to die instantly without them knowing about it? You can't be harmed by non existence, it's just impossible. Also, a happy life always comes at the cost of other people's lives. I have no idea why you're solely thinking about humans having happy lives when the majority of this planet is comprised of animals who have to suffer horrifically due to predation and other things. How does a happy life justify all of the torture and pain that the other lives go through? What's the necessity of this happiness existing in this universe?

Also, it's ironic at how you keep on telling me to make decisions that affect myself only yet I bet that you support people procreating which is a decision that they imposed upon somebody else. Me ending all suffering on this planet is apparently a bad thing to you but life perpetuating until it all has to die anyway (since extinction is inevitable) is okay to you? So baffling

You're thinking because you're suffering everyone is. Believe it or not many aren't. Many are entirely happy with their lot. You'd be depriving those many of that continued happiness. Ever considered that?

 

[kvorumese]

I bet that you support people procreating which is a decision that they imposed upon somebody else

Hey hey, I support your latest message, but let's not jump to assumptions about anybody. It's perfectly reasonable that somebody wouldn't want the entire planet to cease to exist, and it's also perfectly understandable, from the perspective of a person who's lost hope, why they would. Let's spread love on this forum, not hatred to each other - we are all here for the same reason. Hugs

 

[Peter Skellern]

If I could make planet Earth disappear in an instant, I'd do it. It's not like anybody is going to care lol, they won't even notice

Maybe ask for their opinion first on that one lol. Do you like others making unilateral decisions for you?

 

[kvorumese]

Maybe ask for their opinion first on that one lol. Do you like others making unilateral decisions for you?

I don't, but many people still do, so
It's a hypothetical anyway. If I were actually presented with such a choice, neither you nor nobody else would have time to react lol

 

[Peter Skellern]

So if you kill perfectly innocent people and they don't know about it (it's that quick) it's all good in your book? Really??

 

[ijustwishtodie]

You're thinking because you're suffering everyone is. Believe it or not many aren't. Many are entirely happy with their lot. You'd be depriving those many of that continued happiness. Ever considered that?

How is that deprivation bad if they aren't alive to experience said deprivation? If I were to die today and got a million dollars tomorrow, I'm not going to care because there is no "me" anymore. The same thing applies to all of the other sentient beings.

 

[Peter Skellern]

How is that deprivation bad if they aren't alive to experience said deprivation? If I were to die today and got a million dollars tomorrow, I'm not going to care because there is no "me" anymore. The same thing applies to all of the other sentient beings.

Because YOU are making that decision for them. Don't you think they should get a say? And just because YOU don't care, others shouldn't also? We're back to the S word again - YOU are unhappy so everyone else should be.

 

[Darkover]

So if you kill perfectly innocent people and they don't know about it (it's that quick) it's all good in your book? Really??

by allowing this world to continue it cause more harm and suffering in the long run then would be cause be destroying it all

From a strictly logical standpoint, if the primary goal is to eliminate suffering, then the argument for non-existence could be seen as valid: without life, there is no suffering. If we view life solely through the lens of suffering, it would seem to follow that removing all conscious beings would indeed end suffering, both for humans and animals, by preventing birth and the ensuing pain that comes with existence.

 

[Peter Skellern]

by allowing this world to continue it cause more harm and suffering in the long run then would be cause be destroying it all

From a strictly logical standpoint, if the primary goal is to eliminate suffering, then the argument for non-existence could be seen as valid: without life, there is no suffering. If we view life solely through the lens of suffering, it would seem to follow that removing all conscious beings would indeed end suffering, both for humans and animals, by preventing birth and the ensuing pain that comes with existence.

And that's your decision to make? I would add that you're eliminating considerable potential great happiness too (by the same logic).

 

[Darkover]

I would add that you're eliminating considerable potential great happiness too (by the same logic).

Exactly, and that's the difficult part of the equation. By eliminating existence to prevent suffering, you also erase the possibility of great happiness, fulfillment, and positive experiences. It's a kind of moral trade-off—by choosing non-existence, you'd be preventing both suffering and the potential for joy.

This duality—where both the positive and negative aspects of life are intertwined—is what makes the question so challenging. While life guarantees suffering, it also offers the chance for beauty, connection, and achievement. The tension between these two factors, suffering and happiness, shapes the struggle in considering whether life is worth continuing or if non-existence might be preferable.

For many, though, the potential for happiness makes enduring the suffering seem more bearable, even if the happiness is fleeting.

And that's your decision to make?

not mine but someone else who's in the position of power to end all life on this planet

You'd be killing people who are entirely happy with their existence (possibly for the next 90+ years) because you're not. It's the S word. Selfish. Fine you're unhappy. Fine you want to ctb. Don't drag perfectly happy people into your unhappiness and the like. Make decisions for yourself. Not for people that have absolutely nothing to do with you.

When considering all life on Earth, it's difficult to argue that there is more happiness than suffering. While many organisms experience moments of pleasure or satisfaction (like finding food, reproducing, or avoiding danger), the sheer scale of suffering throughout life—whether due to predation, illness, environmental stress, or natural disasters—seems overwhelming. From an evolutionary perspective, much of life revolves around struggle and survival, often at the expense of well-being.

For humans, suffering seems especially pronounced, as we not only experience physical pain but also emotional and psychological distress. Given that much of life's satisfaction is fleeting and often comes with a great deal of effort or sacrifice, the scales might tip more toward suffering, especially when you consider the inevitable nature of death and suffering that many organisms, including humans, face.

 

[Peter Skellern]

Exactly, and that's the difficult part of the equation. By eliminating existence to prevent suffering, you also erase the possibility of great happiness, fulfillment, and positive experiences. It's a kind of moral trade-off—by choosing non-existence, you'd be preventing both suffering and the potential for joy.

This duality—where both the positive and negative aspects of life are intertwined—is what makes the question so challenging. While life guarantees suffering, it also offers the chance for beauty, connection, and achievement. The tension between these two factors, suffering and happiness, shapes the struggle in considering whether life is worth continuing or if non-existence might be preferable.

For many, though, the potential for happiness makes enduring the suffering seem more bearable, even if the happiness is fleeting.

not mine but someone else who's in the position of power to end all life on this planet

Sadly, there's people posting here who think they should have that right - because they are unhappy everyone should be unhappy (or even die).

From my point of view I don't want to harm anyone if I make the decision to ctb. If I was to walk in front of a car do I possibly want to kill (or even traumatise) the driver and/or passengers? Heck no. That would be SELFISH.

 

[Darkover]

If I was to walk in front of a car do I possibly want to kill (or even traumatise) the driver and/or passengers? Heck no. That would be SELFISH.

who gives a shit tho not the government, because if they did they would give us our birthright to leave.

 

[Peter Skellern]

who gives a shit tho not the government, because if they did they would give us our birthright to leave.

I do. I care about the car driver and the passengers. It's sad that you don't.

 

[Whale_bones]

How is that deprivation bad if they aren't alive to experience said deprivation? If I were to die today and got a million dollars tomorrow, I'm not going to care because there is no "me" anymore. The same thing applies to all of the other sentient beings.

There are thousands of different religions in the world, some with adherents who believe they need to accomplish specific things in life in order to enter a desired afterlife.

I personally believe that consciousness is a function of the brain, one which ceases when the brain stops functioning, but that's the conclusion I've personally reached. None of us know what comes after death.

Everyone has a right to their beliefs about a particular afterlife or lack thereof, and ending others' lives means deciding that your view of consciousness is correct while not giving them the chance to pursue their view (again, referring to followers who believe they have to complete certain goals while still alive).

There's even religions that require ceremonies to take place involving the dead body, without which a spirit cannot enter the afterlife, and these ceremonies could of course not be performed if every single person was killed at once.

Just because you and I don't think consciousness persists after death, it doesn't give anyone the right to make that irreversible decision for others.

 

[genie]

Rosy retrospection is the feeling that the past is better than than the present, even though you probably had some hardships in the past. I don't want the world to end for everyone, but I would like it to change for the better but that is unrealistic. Have you heard of efilism? It's a philosophy that life is just suffering and preventing it is good.

 

[kvorumese]

So if you kill perfectly innocent people and they don't know about it (it's that quick) it's all good in your book? Really??

Not exactly. If I were to randomly kill a group of people, say 100 or something, of course I'd be in the wrong. But in my view I do not care about erasing the existence of the whole planet (or more specifically, every human), because there are no downsides to that. Nobody will care because nobody will be. This might not align with your views though and that's fine.

 

[Peter Skellern]

So killing billions on a point of principle is fine? And killing is fine (in colossal numbers) if they aren't aware they're being killed or there's anyone to take you to task afterwards? Really?? You'd have no qualms whatsoever making that decision for everyone? Say the perfectly happy married couple who live just up the road?

 

[Darkover]

So killing billions on a point of principle is fine? And killing is fine (in colossal numbers) if they aren't aware they're being killed or there's anyone to take you to task afterwards? Really?? You'd have no qualms whatsoever making that decision for everyone? Say the perfectly happy married couple who live just up the road?

we won't give a shit for this shitty planet and people