I refuse to believe fentanyl isnt a viable option come on people use your imagination. Lets discuss this

[SchrodingerIsDed]

Yeah I've heard about some places on the DW, but I feel like getting scammed or my house raided by the popo lol

You probably won't get scammed if you use an Escrow. If no one is watching you, follow https://darknetbible.info/, use Tails on a public guest network, ship to your address with your name, and just deny you ordered it if the feds show up, but they usually won't and they might just send a letter showing you where to go for detox help or rehab. Tails can be a bit annoying to set up, but it's not that hard, and once you get it, you're GTG.

Also no silkroad and silkroad 2.0 got taken down a long time ago. It's been a cat and mouse game for a long time, many markets popping up then getting taken down. Just follow the above link and you'll be good. And dread is great for general DNW info.

Actually you can never get in any trouble unless you didn't hide your identity as you ordered it. Once the order arrives and you pick it, if the cops come and ask you why you got that in your hand. Simply say "i dont know it just arrived here"

Not technically true. If it arrives there and you say "I don't know", you can dodge a charge once, but then you'll be on a watchlist. So if you don't get the order right the first time, you're fucked. But that also may not happen at all if you're careful, as you say.

that's why someone who want to ctb with this should use a heroic dose as suggested

Opioid Megathread & Overview

Preamble I wanted to write something similar to Stan's guide to SN but I hesitate to call this a guide because I can't in good conscience make a guide for something so unreliable in terms of access, lethality, and risk of permanent injury. I.e., traumatic brain injury from hypoxia. SN is a far...

sanctioned-suicide.net

here there are a lot of info about opiates. for 100% pure heroine 0.5 g via IV is enough to die, i am thinking about buy 5 grams and inject it all in one time, is pretty easy if you know how to do it, and i will add a ton of benzo

Would you mix the benzo solution with the H solution, or do them separately? I'm unfamiliar with IV use.

 

[agapewinters]

id agree unless you already have a history of opioid addiction. unfortunately, i fear I'd just snort it in small doses and enjoy the buzz. opioids really feel like the warmest hug, the deepest love you never had.. OH WELL

 

[roommate]

You probably won't get scammed if you use an Escrow. If no one is watching you, follow https://darknetbible.info/, use Tails on a public guest network, ship to your address with your name, and just deny you ordered it if the feds show up, but they usually won't and they might just send a letter showing you where to go for detox help or rehab. Tails can be a bit annoying to set up, but it's not that hard, and once you get it, you're GTG.

Also no silkroad and silkroad 2.0 got taken down a long time ago. It's been a cat and mouse game for a long time, many markets popping up then getting taken down. Just follow the above link and you'll be good. And dread is great for general DNW info.

Not technically true. If it arrives there and you say "I don't know", you can dodge a charge once, but then you'll be on a watchlist. So if you don't get the order right the first time, you're fucked. But that also may not happen at all if you're careful, as you say.

Would you mix the benzo solution with the H solution, or do them separately? I'm unfamiliar with IV use.

Yea I'm familiar with those things, just never browsed it deep enough I guess.
I'm saving this for once I'm boored enough to browse the DW again.
Thanks a lot!

 

[heyismeman]

have you ever done it? because i do H via IV since 1998 i bet i know a little bit about this topic. when the neele is inside is just a second to press it and a i hav plenty of 5 ml syringe

For me in won't inject anything but I will drink a heroic fent dose, we'll 500usd from dw largest more reputable vendor then I will snort another 200 dollars worth and mix it with 100mg of Xanax. Being I have zero tolerance I think it'll work tbh

 

[Eudaimonic]

that's why someone who want to ctb with this should use a heroic dose as suggested

Opioid Megathread & Overview

Preamble I wanted to write something similar to Stan's guide to SN but I hesitate to call this a guide because I can't in good conscience make a guide for something so unreliable in terms of access, lethality, and risk of permanent injury. I.e., traumatic brain injury from hypoxia. SN is a far...

sanctioned-suicide.net

The author of this very thread advises against the method, deeming it risky and unreliable

here there are a lot of info about opiates. for 100% pure heroine 0.5 g via IV is enough to die, i am thinking about buy 5 grams and inject it all in one time, is pretty easy if you know how to do it, and i will add a ton of benzo

yes, IV could work if you could inject enough before passing out and keep the line clear while unconscious. but most people cannot do IV anyway, myself included

From the thread: "The two ideal ROAs are intravenous injection and rectal administration. Other options are less ideal for the reasons described below.

Injections are preferable for anyone who has experience using needles or those willing to learn. Just make sure you draw visible blood into the syringe before pushing the plunger down, and don't hit an artery. Use sterile needles. 30-31 gauge syringes are provided no-questions-asked at most pharmacies or can be obtained online. More detailed instructions on preparing your shot can be found with a quick google search. I recommend following all harm reduction protocols (except "start low, go slow - for obvious reasons) such as sanitary procedure, in case of ctb failure or abort. I know the risk may seem trivial, but you don't want to fail ctb only to be hospitalized and in pain due to a serious blood infection."

 

[heyismeman]

The author of this very thread advises against the method, deeming it risky and unreliable

yes, IV could work if you could inject enough before passing out and keep the line clear while unconscious. but most people cannot do IV anyway, myself included

From the thread: "The two ideal ROAs are intravenous injection and rectal administration. Other options are less ideal for the reasons described below.

Injections are preferable for anyone who has experience using needles or those willing to learn. Just make sure you draw visible blood into the syringe before pushing the plunger down, and don't hit an artery. Use sterile needles. 30-31 gauge syringes are provided no-questions-asked at most pharmacies or can be obtained online. More detailed instructions on preparing your shot can be found with a quick google search. I recommend following all harm reduction protocols (except "start low, go slow - for obvious reasons) such as sanitary procedure, in case of ctb failure or abort. I know the risk may seem trivial, but you don't want to fail ctb only to be hospitalized and in pain due to a serious blood infection."

You think I'll be fine doing oral 2grams of China white, then snorting 2 more grams and 100mg of benzos mixed in. I have absolutely zero tolerance and antiemetics will also be used

 

[Eudaimonic]

You think I'll be fine doing oral 2grams of China white, then snorting 2 more grams and 100mg of benzos mixed in. I have absolutely zero tolerance and antiemetics will also be used

Oral and intranasal ROA are not advised

 

[heyismeman]

Oral and intranasal ROA are not advised

But realistically with zero tolerance i can't imagine it wouldn't work right, over 4 grams of powder bought from most reputable DW vendor?

Oral and intranasal ROA are not advised

With zero tolerance?

 

[wiggy]

I thought the whole opioid crisis in the US came about because doctors were to eager to prescribe the stuff. Certainly I would at least try to source it from a doctor before purchasing it illegally.

 

[Eudaimonic]

But realistically with zero tolerance i can't imagine it wouldn't work right, over 4 grams of powder bought from most reputable DW vendor?

With zero tolerance?

Please read the megathread. That will answer your questions.

 

[frommolecules2stars]

By far the most peaceful way to ctb is a massive opioid dose, the death is as close to painless as anything gets, infact some will say it is painless. Now if you maneuver in the DW you can certainly get high quality fent, so let's discuss a method here. Is a massive oral dose really not likely to work? Snorting? Mixed with Xanax? Does anyone have any plans. It's infinitely more peaceful then SN but I think you just need some creativity

I honestly rather use fent to die. The way opioid ODs are described sound very peaceful and wonderful. Fortunately I'm in a drug server for addicts so I might be able to get a source.

Thats a lot to inject and will require a considerable syringe. Arguably, you'll pass out before getting it in you.

So, do you pass out whenever you get an IV? Or an injection? People shoot up H all the time, it really isn't that hard. It's not like trying to cut an artery.

 

[Eudaimonic]

What I am struggling to understand is why intramuscular ROA would not work? Bioavailability should be the highest aside from IV, and if you injected a huge amount of high-purity F (after testing, ofc), it seems like it would be extremely likely to work?

edit: I can't find any information about the bioavailability of the intramuscular ROA

 

[marios]

The author of this very thread advises against the method, deeming it risky and unreliable

yes, IV could work if you could inject enough before passing out and keep the line clear while unconscious. but most people cannot do IV anyway, myself included

From the thread: "The two ideal ROAs are intravenous injection and rectal administration. Other options are less ideal for the reasons described below.

Injections are preferable for anyone who has experience using needles or those willing to learn. Just make sure you draw visible blood into the syringe before pushing the plunger down, and don't hit an artery. Use sterile needles. 30-31 gauge syringes are provided no-questions-asked at most pharmacies or can be obtained online. More detailed instructions on preparing your shot can be found with a quick google search. I recommend following all harm reduction protocols (except "start low, go slow - for obvious reasons) such as sanitary procedure, in case of ctb failure or abort. I know the risk may seem trivial, but you don't want to fail ctb only to be hospitalized and in pain due to a serious blood infection."

Actually he said since is very dangerous for some one who has never done it I will write a guide. You should finish it all and not only the first sentence before write a comment. Sure is risky for some one who has never done it but if you put the deaths from SN and the one with opioid next to each other the sn will be 1/1000000 of the opioid
If you want to cyb and you have never used opioid is far to easy the protocol with sn, but if you are a drug addict and used H via IV for most of your life, Yiu have the knowledge to do it properly.
And anyway after reading the guide (all. Not the first sentence like you did) you can do it pretty easily

You think I'll be fine doing oral 2grams of China white, then snorting 2 more grams and 100mg of benzos mixed in. I have absolutely zero tolerance and antiemetics will also be used

oral injestion is does almost nothing beacuse of the acid in your belly. snort it

 

[legoshi]

Based off all the comments of oh it won't work, you will go to jail, they don't sell quality fent, and etc. it seems harder to CTB than it does to live. On a side note, if fent is so unreliable and etc. how do so many people OD everyday then? Are they all just lying to boost statistics?

 

[Forever Sleep]

How would you know it was adequate quality? Would a vendor happily sell you enough quantity to die with? Surely from their perspective, they'd rather their customers stay alive and return to buy from them again? Plus, they likely don't want suicides and police investigations on where the drugs came from. If you need to buy several orders from them or others to buy enough, does that not raise the chances of getting caught? Would it then be enough to convict you as a dealer?

It's not something I'd consider if I'm honest. Sure, people probably can go via this route but, I doubt it's without a lot of risk- just like so many other methods- unfortunately.

 

[Whale_bones]

Based off all the comments of oh it won't work, you will go to jail, they don't sell quality fent, and etc. it seems harder to CTB than it does to live. On a side note, if fent is so unreliable and etc. how do so many people OD everyday then? Are they all just lying to boost statistics?

Drug users have established connections with others for a reliable supply, often months-or-years-long relationships. Someone who has never used hard drugs before, has no personal connections with users or dealers and isn't knowledgeable on the slang and culture of their local drug scene is exponentially more likely to get ripped off (sold fake product).

A lot of people who just want to CTB understandably don't wish to take on further risks, nor do they have the time or energy to develop new social connections. It's totally a personal choice if someone feels this is the right method for them and wants to pursue it, but bringing up the relevant risks and downsides isn't a bad thing. I'd rather everyone be given the potential pros and cons, then they can decide for themselves if it's worth it.

 

[Richard Langford]

I honestly rather use fent to die. The way opioid ODs are described sound very peaceful and wonderful. Fortunately I'm in a drug server for addicts so I might be able to get a source.

So, do you pass out whenever you get an IV? Or an injection? People shoot up H all the time, it really isn't that hard. It's not like trying to cut an artery.

But they don't put 5ml into themselves typically.

What I am struggling to understand is why intramuscular ROA would not work? Bioavailability should be the highest aside from IV, and if you injected a huge amount of high-purity F (after testing, ofc), it seems like it would be extremely likely to work?

edit: I can't find any information about the bioavailability of the intramuscular ROA

For Heroin its about 98%.

 

[purelydaft]

Based off all the comments of oh it won't work, you will go to jail, they don't sell quality fent, and etc. it seems harder to CTB than it does to live. On a side note, if fent is so unreliable and etc. how do so many people OD everyday then? Are they all just lying to boost statistics?

It definitely can work, but I suppose it's good to set expectations for people who have no experience with drugs let alone high doses of intravenously injected opioids. Not to mention the non-zero chance of encouraging people (sometimes minors) with questionable resolution to order relatively high amounts of opioids so they can "test" it in small doses and become addicted. Simple opsec and access to quality testing are kind of the bare minimum to expect.

 

[heyismeman]

Yea

Actually he said since is very dangerous for some one who has never done it I will write a guide. You should finish it all and not only the first sentence before write a comment. Sure is risky for some one who has never done it but if you put the deaths from SN and the one with opioid next to each other the sn will be 1/1000000 of the opioid
If you want to cyb and you have never used opioid is far to easy the protocol with sn, but if you are a drug addict and used H via IV for most of your life, Yiu have the knowledge to do it properly.
And anyway after reading the guide (all. Not the first sentence like you did) you can do it pretty easily

oral injestion is does almost nothing beacuse of the acid in your belly. snort it

sure i will be, 2 whole grams of it then 2 grams swallowed, I'm sure i wouldn't be able to snort 4 grams of powder before passing out don't u think. But do you believe my method will work for certain? I'll use highest rated vendor with 1k plus deliveries beforehand and I have zero tolerance as I've never used opioid before (snorted tons of coke etc)

 

[Eudaimonic]

Actually he said since is very dangerous for some one who has never done it I will write a guide. You should finish it all and not only the first sentence before write a comment. Sure is risky for some one who has never done it but if you put the deaths from SN and the one with opioid next to each other the sn will be 1/1000000 of the opioid

"I hesitate to call this a guide because I can't in good conscience make a guide for something so unreliable in terms of access, lethality, and risk of permanent injury. I.e., traumatic brain injury from hypoxia. SN is a far more reliable and lower-risk alternative in this regard."

But they don't put 5ml into themselves typically.

For Heroin its about 98%.

That's a lot. Wikipedia states that bioavailability is 100% for fentanyl IM. There is no source provided, though. It says 92% for transdermal, and assuming this is correct, maybe transdermal w/ DMSO could be a good alternative for people who don't wish to inject?

 

[heyismeman]

"I hesitate to call this a guide because I can't in good conscience make a guide for something so unreliable in terms of access, lethality, and risk of permanent injury. I.e., traumatic brain injury from hypoxia. SN is a far more reliable and lower-risk alternative in this regard."

That's a lot. Wikipedia states that bioavailability is 100% for fentanyl IM. There is no source provided, though. It says 92% for transdermal, and assuming this is correct, maybe transdermal w/ DMSO could be a good alternative for people who don't wish to inject?

Do you think 3grams oral and 2 grams snorting would do the trick? Guaranteed high quality stuff and I have zero tolerance

 

[roommate]

Wouldn't your nose get too dry at one point when snorting so much?
So dry you can't snort anymore and stuff just clumbs in your nose.

 

[Eudaimonic]

Do you think 3grams oral and 2 grams snorting would do the trick? Guaranteed high quality stuff and I have zero tolerance

Bioavailability of oral is quite low and there is a significant risk of vomiting regardless of the use of antiemetics. Snorting comes with its own set of issues

 

[heyismeman]

Bioavailability of oral is quite low and there is a significant risk of vomiting regardless of the use of antiemetics. Snorting comes with its own set of issues

I know but at such extreme doses? 2.5mg is the half death amount or whatever they call it, 4 entire grams 800 times the lethal amount, you still think there's room for error for real???

Bioavailability of oral is quite low and there is a significant risk of vomiting regardless of the use of antiemetics. Snorting comes with its own set of issues

Actually 5 grams so we're talking 1000 time the amount to kill someone, assuming 5mg is lethal for generally everyone, you really think there's a chance it wouldn't work at this amount?

Wouldn't your nose get too dry at one point when snorting so much?
So dry you can't snort anymore and stuff just clumbs in your nose.

Sure but I'm talking exactly 1000 times the lethal dose here at 5grams. I mean I would be amazed really is 2.4 is ld50 and I'm taking 2083 times that dose

 

[Eudaimonic]

I know but at such extreme doses? 2.5mg is the half death amount or whatever they call it, 4 entire grams 800 times the lethal amount, you still think there's room for error for real???

Actually 5 grams so we're talking 1000 time the amount to kill someone, assuming 5mg is lethal for generally everyone, you really think there's a chance it wouldn't work at this amount?

Sure but I'm talking exactly 1000 times the lethal dose here at 5grams. I mean I would be amazed really is 2.4 is ld50 and I'm taking 2083 times that dose

Yes of course there's room for error, opioids have strong proemetic effects

Oral bioavailability is 33%, according to Wikipedia, so it's not 1000, more like 333, and that's assuming 100% purity
Are you planning to send a sample for laboratory testing prior to use?

 

[marios]

"I hesitate to call this a guide because I can't in good conscience make a guide for something so unreliable in terms of access, lethality, and risk of permanent injury. I.e., traumatic brain injury from hypoxia. SN is a far more reliable and lower-risk alternative in this regard."

That's a lot. Wikipedia states that bioavailability is 100% for fentanyl IM. There is no source provided, though. It says 92% for transdermal, and assuming this is correct, maybe transdermal w/ DMSO could be a good alternative for people who don't wish to inject?

but the guy who wrote the post has acces to pharmacy grade opioid. and fent is the best choice in my opinion to CTB. if you could buy from the shelf of a pharmacy fnt and SN whould you choose SN? i would not

 

[Exordium]

Well it's incredibly easy, like delivered to you door VERY high quality in 4 days easy, you just gotta figure it out. But I want this thread to be about people who are knowledgeable on fent and know it's easily obtainable. Perhaps I'm asking for too much tho

please tell me exactly how you do this. i'm in the US. i need to know PLEASE

 

[Eudaimonic]

but the guy who wrote the post has acces to pharmacy grade opioid. and fent is the best choice in my opinion to CTB. if you could buy from the shelf of a pharmacy fnt and SN whould you choose SN? i would not

Where did the author say that they had access to pharma grade opioids?

They explicitly said that you should avoid CTBing on pharma grade opioids because they are rarely pure.

"Pharmaceutical-grade opioids might be considered preferable by some given that their dosages are accurately labelled and they are not potentially contaminated or sold as different drugs entirely like with illegal markets. However, many pharmaceutical opioids also contain high concentrations of anti-inflammatory drugs such as paracetamol, acetaminophen, or ibuprofen (e.g., Percocet) that are likely to cause significant stomach pain and damage organs in the doses required to ctb. They also often contain fillers (e.g., Oxycontin) that make them unsuitable for injection or other routes of administration. Eating these medications is also not recommended as it is very likely to fail due to vomiting and oral bioavailability is low."

You are not going to obtain access to pharma grade fent.

Yes, fent is the best (that is available, obviously there are stronger analogues), but illicit drug purity is a big issue even with testing