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SomewhatLoved

SomewhatLoved

Bringing out the Dead and Searching for the Living
Apr 12, 2023
100
Opioids, including fentanyl, are medications which are often given for their analgesic effects (pain relief) in cases of extreme pain. They are used following surgery, in cases of extreme injury, prior to chemotherapy, or for sedation when the patient has an advanced airway adjunct. Fentanyl will depress breathing and can even cause respiratory arrest when taken in excess. Due to it's analgesic and sedative effects, as well as it's impact on respiratory function, fentanyl can cause a painless and peaceful death. Some even report fentanyl causing feelings of euphoria or relaxation, however, these effects are more common in non-synthetic opioids (morphine, codeine).

If you've looked at the news anytime since the mid 2010s, chances are you've already heard of fentanyl overdose and the general potential of opioids to be fatal when taken recreationally or not as directed by a physician. In particular, fentanyl has become recognized as extremely dangerous and is even recognized as responsible for the majority of drug overdoses in the United States, especially in youth. The DEA recognizes as little as 2mg as a potentially lethal dose, and if given in excess of this, has an almost certain fatal outcome.

The main issue I see with this method is access. If you're someone who's never taken recreational drugs before or is not in contact with a dealer, finding opioids may be a problem. Additionally, when you do find it, you may worry about how reliable the concentration is and total amount of the drug you will be taking, as illegally produced drugs have the potential to be inaccurate in their concentration. For this reason, if possible, it is preferable to find prescription fentanyl being illegally sold.

Injecting is probably the most reliable option, as once it is in your vasculature it is essentially impossible to remove and as long as you've taken excess of the lethal dose, you're as good as done unless someone finds you and administers an opioid antagonist (naloxone). Vials/ampules of fentanyl for medical purposes often come in lower concentrations (usually 50mcg/mL, very far below the lethal dose). Because of this, it may be better to purchase powdered fentanyl which can be reconstituted into a liquid solution and then injected rapidly. If you chose this method, I recommend you practice placing IVs and administering saline before you attempt to overdose, as anything going wrong could potentially cause hypoxic brain injury (brain damage secondary to low oxygen in circulation).

Oral administration is also a viable option for opioid overdose, however, there is risk for failure as opioids are known to cause nausea and vomiting, which could potentially cause you to vomit anything you swallowed (this problem is not limited to opioids, and is a known issue for other methods of intentional overdose, whether it be SN, opioids, or benzodiazepines). The upside to oral fentanyl is that pills are often higher concentration (highest strength I could find online was 800mcg, which would only require 5 pills to reach 4mg, double the lethal dose). Again, the problem here is that you may induce vomiting. To avoid this, we need antiemetic medications. Sadly, as often is discussed in other threads, a simple antacid will not work here. Antacids work by changing the pH and inhibiting the release of pepsin, which prevent heartburn and vomiting. What is needed for this usage is something that blocks the action of vomiting itself, and this class of medication is antiemetics. Antiemetics are not often seen as a high risk medication, and it may not be difficult to get a prescription if you claim you get motion sickness, severe nausea, or have a sensitive gag reflex. Chewing the tablets before swallowing may be a possible way to increase the absorption rate (and thus, overdose potential), however, it would most likely taste awful and I have not been able to find any information about doing this so this is simply conjecture.

Fentanyl is by no means the only opioid which can be used for intentional overdose, and other drugs such as heroin are also well-known for having potentially lethal effects. Although there are certainly some hurdles to jump through, once you have acquired a large enough supply of opioids and have sufficiently practiced injection (or got yourself some antiemetics), you can have a fairly high chance at a peaceful, and possibly even euphoric, death.

Any feedback is appreciated :)
 
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26mmmm

Experienced
Feb 12, 2024
207
Opioids, including fentanyl, are medications which are often given for their analgesic effects (pain relief) in cases of extreme pain. They are used following surgery, in cases of extreme injury, prior to chemotherapy, or for sedation when the patient has an advanced airway adjunct. Fentanyl will depress breathing and can even cause respiratory arrest when taken in excess. Due to it's analgesic and sedative effects, as well as it's impact on respiratory function, fentanyl can cause a painless and peaceful death. Some even report fentanyl causing feelings of euphoria or relaxation, however, these effects are more common in non-synthetic opioids (morphine, codeine).

If you've looked at the news anytime since the mid 2010s, chances are you've already heard of fentanyl overdose and the general potential of opioids to be fatal when taken recreationally or not as directed by a physician. In particular, fentanyl has become recognized as extremely dangerous and is even recognized as responsible for the majority of drug overdoses in the United States, especially in youth. The DEA recognizes as little as 2mg as a potentially lethal dose, and if given in excess of this, has an almost certain fatal outcome.

The main issue I see with this method is access. If you're someone who's never taken recreational drugs before or is not in contact with a dealer, finding opioids may be a problem. Additionally, when you do find it, you may worry about how reliable the concentration is and total amount of the drug you will be taking, as illegally produced drugs have the potential to be inaccurate in their concentration. For this reason, if possible, it is preferable to find prescription fentanyl being illegally sold.

Injecting is probably the most reliable option, as once it is in your vasculature it is essentially impossible to remove and as long as you've taken excess of the lethal dose, you're as good as done unless someone finds you and administers an opioid antagonist (naloxone). Vials/ampules of fentanyl for medical purposes often come in lower concentrations (usually 50mcg/mL, very far below the lethal dose). Because of this, it may be better to purchase powdered fentanyl which can be reconstituted into a liquid solution and then injected rapidly. If you chose this method, I recommend you practice placing IVs and administering saline before you attempt to overdose, as anything going wrong could potentially cause hypoxic brain injury (brain damage secondary to low oxygen in circulation).

Oral administration is also a viable option for opioid overdose, however, there is risk for failure as opioids are known to cause nausea and vomiting, which could potentially cause you to vomit anything you swallowed (this problem is not limited to opioids, and is a known issue for other methods of intentional overdose, whether it be SN, opioids, or benzodiazepines). The upside to oral fentanyl is that pills are often higher concentration (highest strength I could find online was 800mcg, which would only require 5 pills to reach 4mg, double the lethal dose). Again, the problem here is that you may induce vomiting. To avoid this, we need antiemetic medications. Sadly, as often is discussed in other threads, a simple antacid will not work here. Antacids work by changing the pH and inhibiting the release of pepsin, which prevent heartburn and vomiting. What is needed for this usage is something that blocks the action of vomiting itself, and this class of medication is antiemetics. Antiemetics are not often seen as a high risk medication, and it may not be difficult to get a prescription if you claim you get motion sickness, severe nausea, or have a sensitive gag reflex. Chewing the tablets before swallowing may be a possible way to increase the absorption rate (and thus, overdose potential), however, it would most likely taste awful and I have not been able to find any information about doing this so this is simply conjecture.

Fentanyl is by no means the only opioid which can be used for intentional overdose, and other drugs such as heroin are also well-known for having potentially lethal effects. Although there are certainly some hurdles to jump through, once you have acquired a large enough supply of opioids and have sufficiently practiced injection (or got yourself some antiemetics), you can have a fairly high chance at a peaceful, and possibly even euphoric, death.

Any feedback is appreciated :)
Can't it be smoked? https://apnews.com/article/smoking-injection-overdoses-fentanyl-cbaf9c258b4fdbcc93ac164902629c35
 
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rotciv

rotciv

Something In The Way
Mar 25, 2023
460
It will be the easiest, least painful method to achieve in the future. You can use fentanyl or other nitazenes, but you have to find a high purity vendor.
 
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sanitystruggle

Specialist
Mar 12, 2024
375
Yes, but fentanyl analogues must be almost impossible to obtain these days.
Where I am I've never come across a reliable nitazene source. It turns up in street valium pills but the strength is a bit of an unknown. Fentanyl patches and sublingual tabs can be found if you know the right people.
 
Itty bitty

Itty bitty

Member
Apr 11, 2024
24
I have pure SN but CTB with Fentanyl would be my favourite method, but i can´t find any source of purity fentanyl.
I would favourite the Oral administration.

Which nitazenes have the same effect as fentanyl?
I am not familiar with nitazenes.
 
cheese.out

cheese.out

Why am I still here
Jul 25, 2023
200
I have pure SN but CTB with Fentanyl would be my favourite method, but i can´t find any source of purity fentanyl.
I would favourite the Oral administration.

Which nitazenes have the same effect as fentanyl?
I am not familiar with nitazenes.
F-Etonitazene has about the same potency as fent
 
rotciv

rotciv

Something In The Way
Mar 25, 2023
460
From what I understand the problem is finding pure fentanyl from street vendors or large quantities from pharmaceuticals (which unfortunately is quite expensive), the unregulated nitazenes are cheaper and many are more potent than fenty, but can only be ordered from China...
I have pure SN but CTB with Fentanyl would be my favourite method, but i can´t find any source of purity fentanyl.
I would favourite the Oral administration.

Which nitazenes have the same effect as fentanyl?
I am not familiar with nitazenes.

 
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Itty bitty

Itty bitty

Member
Apr 11, 2024
24
From what I understand the problem is finding pure fentanyl from street vendors or large quantities from pharmaceuticals (which unfortunately is quite expensive), the unregulated nitazenes are cheaper and many are more potent than fenty, but can only be ordered from China...
No Source in Europe?
 
samicitchka

samicitchka

Member
Apr 14, 2024
23
This is what I am wondering as well. Keeping my eye on this thread 👀
 
Nikitatos

Nikitatos

Student
Apr 10, 2024
191
From what I understand the problem is finding pure fentanyl from street vendors or large quantities from pharmaceuticals (which unfortunately is quite expensive), the unregulated nitazenes are cheaper and many are more potent than fenty, but can only be ordered from China...


There has to be a way to separate the fentanyl from the impurities. Probably simple for anyone who knows chemistry.
 
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EyesOfNight

EyesOfNight

the night will be eternal
Feb 2, 2024
344
You didn't mention snorting. IN has higher bioavailability then Oral and is easier to do then IV. It also avoids vomiting the substance back up.
 
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FieldsofWildflowers

New Member
Apr 19, 2024
4
Opioids are known to make a person vomit. Would a antiemedic prevent a person from choking on their own vomit?
 
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FieldsofWildflowers

New Member
Apr 19, 2024
4
Sadly, I have been having severe health issues and I am suffering daily.... I have decided to end my life in a few months. This will give me time to gather all the necessary items. My choice is to take a dose of sleeping pills, muscle relaxers, benzos, and fentanyl. I've chosen to take them orally because it's the only way I can commit.. and be certain I can consume the right amount. I have ordered an antisemitic to avoid vomiting. My only questions are on average how long do you think death will occur? On a scale from 0-10, how peaceful do you think it will be? How many benzos should I take?
 
rotciv

rotciv

Something In The Way
Mar 25, 2023
460
Sadly, I have been having severe health issues and I am suffering daily.... I have decided to end my life in a few months. This will give me time to gather all the necessary items. My choice is to take a dose of sleeping pills, muscle relaxers, benzos, and fentanyl. I've chosen to take them orally because it's the only way I can commit.. and be certain I can consume the right amount. I have ordered an antisemitic to avoid vomiting. My only questions are on average how long do you think death will occur? On a scale from 0-10, how peaceful do you think it will be? How many benzos should I take?

There is little information here about CTB and opioids, as it has never been studied like other methods used by assisted suicide institutions, it is still a kind of dark cloud.
 
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DoubleUp8

Student
Dec 14, 2023
110
Opioids, including fentanyl, are medications which are often given for their analgesic effects (pain relief) in cases of extreme pain. They are used following surgery, in cases of extreme injury, prior to chemotherapy, or for sedation when the patient has an advanced airway adjunct. Fentanyl will depress breathing and can even cause respiratory arrest when taken in excess. Due to it's analgesic and sedative effects, as well as it's impact on respiratory function, fentanyl can cause a painless and peaceful death. Some even report fentanyl causing feelings of euphoria or relaxation, however, these effects are more common in non-synthetic opioids (morphine, codeine).

If you've looked at the news anytime since the mid 2010s, chances are you've already heard of fentanyl overdose and the general potential of opioids to be fatal when taken recreationally or not as directed by a physician. In particular, fentanyl has become recognized as extremely dangerous and is even recognized as responsible for the majority of drug overdoses in the United States, especially in youth. The DEA recognizes as little as 2mg as a potentially lethal dose, and if given in excess of this, has an almost certain fatal outcome.

The main issue I see with this method is access. If you're someone who's never taken recreational drugs before or is not in contact with a dealer, finding opioids may be a problem. Additionally, when you do find it, you may worry about how reliable the concentration is and total amount of the drug you will be taking, as illegally produced drugs have the potential to be inaccurate in their concentration. For this reason, if possible, it is preferable to find prescription fentanyl being illegally sold.

Injecting is probably the most reliable option, as once it is in your vasculature it is essentially impossible to remove and as long as you've taken excess of the lethal dose, you're as good as done unless someone finds you and administers an opioid antagonist (naloxone). Vials/ampules of fentanyl for medical purposes often come in lower concentrations (usually 50mcg/mL, very far below the lethal dose). Because of this, it may be better to purchase powdered fentanyl which can be reconstituted into a liquid solution and then injected rapidly. If you chose this method, I recommend you practice placing IVs and administering saline before you attempt to overdose, as anything going wrong could potentially cause hypoxic brain injury (brain damage secondary to low oxygen in circulation).

Oral administration is also a viable option for opioid overdose, however, there is risk for failure as opioids are known to cause nausea and vomiting, which could potentially cause you to vomit anything you swallowed (this problem is not limited to opioids, and is a known issue for other methods of intentional overdose, whether it be SN, opioids, or benzodiazepines). The upside to oral fentanyl is that pills are often higher concentration (highest strength I could find online was 800mcg, which would only require 5 pills to reach 4mg, double the lethal dose). Again, the problem here is that you may induce vomiting. To avoid this, we need antiemetic medications. Sadly, as often is discussed in other threads, a simple antacid will not work here. Antacids work by changing the pH and inhibiting the release of pepsin, which prevent heartburn and vomiting. What is needed for this usage is something that blocks the action of vomiting itself, and this class of medication is antiemetics. Antiemetics are not often seen as a high risk medication, and it may not be difficult to get a prescription if you claim you get motion sickness, severe nausea, or have a sensitive gag reflex. Chewing the tablets before swallowing may be a possible way to increase the absorption rate (and thus, overdose potential), however, it would most likely taste awful and I have not been able to find any information about doing this so this is simply conjecture.

Fentanyl is by no means the only opioid which can be used for intentional overdose, and other drugs such as heroin are also well-known for having potentially lethal effects. Although there are certainly some hurdles to jump through, once you have acquired a large enough supply of opioids and have sufficiently practiced injection (or got yourself some antiemetics), you can have a fairly high chance at a peaceful, and possibly even euphoric, death.

Any feedback is appreciated :)
Just 1 technical correction. Morphine and codeine are not opioids. They are opiates. Opiate means derived from opium. Opioid means anything that binds to the brain's opiate receptor sites that is NOT derived from opium. Opioids can be natural like kratom or synthetic like fentanyl, demerol and methadone.
 
tweaka2x

tweaka2x

CCCdreams
May 26, 2023
47
Opioids, including fentanyl, are medications which are often given for their analgesic effects (pain relief) in cases of extreme pain. They are used following surgery, in cases of extreme injury, prior to chemotherapy, or for sedation when the patient has an advanced airway adjunct. Fentanyl will depress breathing and can even cause respiratory arrest when taken in excess. Due to it's analgesic and sedative effects, as well as it's impact on respiratory function, fentanyl can cause a painless and peaceful death. Some even report fentanyl causing feelings of euphoria or relaxation, however, these effects are more common in non-synthetic opioids (morphine, codeine).

If you've looked at the news anytime since the mid 2010s, chances are you've already heard of fentanyl overdose and the general potential of opioids to be fatal when taken recreationally or not as directed by a physician. In particular, fentanyl has become recognized as extremely dangerous and is even recognized as responsible for the majority of drug overdoses in the United States, especially in youth. The DEA recognizes as little as 2mg as a potentially lethal dose, and if given in excess of this, has an almost certain fatal outcome.

The main issue I see with this method is access. If you're someone who's never taken recreational drugs before or is not in contact with a dealer, finding opioids may be a problem. Additionally, when you do find it, you may worry about how reliable the concentration is and total amount of the drug you will be taking, as illegally produced drugs have the potential to be inaccurate in their concentration. For this reason, if possible, it is preferable to find prescription fentanyl being illegally sold.

Injecting is probably the most reliable option, as once it is in your vasculature it is essentially impossible to remove and as long as you've taken excess of the lethal dose, you're as good as done unless someone finds you and administers an opioid antagonist (naloxone). Vials/ampules of fentanyl for medical purposes often come in lower concentrations (usually 50mcg/mL, very far below the lethal dose). Because of this, it may be better to purchase powdered fentanyl which can be reconstituted into a liquid solution and then injected rapidly. If you chose this method, I recommend you practice placing IVs and administering saline before you attempt to overdose, as anything going wrong could potentially cause hypoxic brain injury (brain damage secondary to low oxygen in circulation).

Oral administration is also a viable option for opioid overdose, however, there is risk for failure as opioids are known to cause nausea and vomiting, which could potentially cause you to vomit anything you swallowed (this problem is not limited to opioids, and is a known issue for other methods of intentional overdose, whether it be SN, opioids, or benzodiazepines). The upside to oral fentanyl is that pills are often higher concentration (highest strength I could find online was 800mcg, which would only require 5 pills to reach 4mg, double the lethal dose). Again, the problem here is that you may induce vomiting. To avoid this, we need antiemetic medications. Sadly, as often is discussed in other threads, a simple antacid will not work here. Antacids work by changing the pH and inhibiting the release of pepsin, which prevent heartburn and vomiting. What is needed for this usage is something that blocks the action of vomiting itself, and this class of medication is antiemetics. Antiemetics are not often seen as a high risk medication, and it may not be difficult to get a prescription if you claim you get motion sickness, severe nausea, or have a sensitive gag reflex. Chewing the tablets before swallowing may be a possible way to increase the absorption rate (and thus, overdose potential), however, it would most likely taste awful and I have not been able to find any information about doing this so this is simply conjecture.

Fentanyl is by no means the only opioid which can be used for intentional overdose, and other drugs such as heroin are also well-known for having potentially lethal effects. Although there are certainly some hurdles to jump through, once you have acquired a large enough supply of opioids and have sufficiently practiced injection (or got yourself some antiemetics), you can have a fairly high chance at a peaceful, and possibly even euphoric, death.

Any feedback is appreciated :)
A really good spot to find local dealers would be a homeless shelter. I live near Lowell Massachusetts where we have a pretty bad F problem. This can be seen in the inner city where people are constantly nodding off and obviously intoxicated. These people sort of "common" near the homeless shelter and all you need to do is walk around the block a few times assessing who's who and I promise you will find it. Don't forget to bring some money. Key word "some" this stuff is not expensive and there's no need to go out there with a hundred bucks. Bring $25 and you should be able to afford a lethal dose.
 
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sanitystruggle

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Mar 12, 2024
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Just 1 technical correction. Morphine and codeine are not opioids. They are opiates. Opiate means derived from opium. Opioid means anything that binds to the brain's opiate receptor sites that is NOT derived from opium. Opioids can be natural like kratom or synthetic like fentanyl, demerol and methadone.
That's not quite correct. There's some variation of the terminology but in modern sources opioids are considered a superset that includes all of the classical opiates, semi and fully synthetic opioids, as well as naturally occurring compounds including mitragynine (from kratom) and the body's own endogenous opioid peptides (endorphins and others): everything that mediates an effect by interacting with the opioid receptor system.


Opioids are a class of drugs that derive from, or mimic, natural substances found in the opium poppy plant.
Terms evolve over time and variations are still common. The history section of the above article discuses this:
By the late 1960s, research found that opiate effects are mediated by activation of specific molecular receptors in the nervous system, which were termed "opioid receptors". The definition of "opioid" was later refined to refer to substances that have morphine-like activities that are mediated by the activation of opioid receptors. One modern pharmacology textbook states: "the term opioid applies to all agonists and antagonists with morphine-like activity, and also the naturally occurring and synthetic opioid peptides".
And concludes:
Some sources define the term opioid to exclude opiates, and others use opiate comprehensively instead of opioid, but opioid used inclusively is considered modern, preferred and is in wide use.[19]
 
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DoubleUp8

Student
Dec 14, 2023
110
The word opioid was invented in 1957 although I never heard anyone say it until well into the 21st century. Invented by the pharmaceutical industry specifically to differentiate drugs like methadone from actual opiates. The word opioid is widely misused by people who think the words opiate and opioid synonymous. They are not. I think it's important to stick with the original definition of each because of the different effects of each. I get that meanings of words evolve but I think the distinction between opiates and opioids is quite profound. Opiates come from a flower put on the planet by God and are actually the best medicine mankind will ever have. I would never say that about fentanyl. Kinda like I would never call the fake weed they sell in smoke shops marijuana because it really isn't. Opiates:came from God. Fentanyl: concocted in the laboratories of Satan. The entire reason they came up with the word opioid was to differentiate them from opiates. I think it's important. Just because Donald Trump came up with a nonsensical phrase "opioid epidemic" and idiots kept parroting it without being able to correctly define either word (I guarantee trump could not). I get that language evolves. I remember when the word "gay" used to mean happy and joyous. But it's important that we keep to the true original definitions here.especially in the present 21st century opiaphobic era. When you lump em together you lose sight of the facts that opiates are the best medicine mankind will ever have and fentanyl is genocide.
 

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