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Our bodies don't always react the same way. I have had reactions to medications (normal dosages) that have been extremely rare. I've also known people to ctb using methods that are described as extremely unreliable - whilst they won't work for most people, for some they do. Maybe the OP was just very unlucky and they fall into the category of extremely rare reaction.

Just a question @Mustkeyknow - when you took the sip were you intending to ctb and drink more and something stopped you? Or were you just tasting it to see what it was like?

How are you feeling now? How are your parents treating you? I hope you recover soon
Thank you. I honestly didn't know if I wanted to CTB or not in the moment, as weird as it sounds. Then I took the sip, which was awful and indeed tastes like pool water, and was expecting for it to do the job. Like I hoped I'd CTB with that sip. I felt normal for a couple of minutes and thought it wasn't that bad, then the pain began. I'm feeling ok, my parents don't seem as concerned since this is my second attempt. Either that or they're not showing it.
There is a report of hot burning coal like sensation in the stomach.
there are reports of trouble breathing.
There are reports of panic from the symptoms and backing out.
There are reports of poisoning from food that sound painful.

I also find it interesting to post this the day after the post about the one Chinese kid yesterday.

no one will know. I know if I turned blue and lived , I'd take pictures.
I wish I had taken pics of my blue lips and fingers tbh, it's too late now.
 
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Bought it again

Thank you, no they didn't took me to the hospital, they called 911 but apparently the dose wasn't potent enough, thought it certainly felt like that.

I feel like shit, my whole body feels worn off, like I'm in the late stages of something. I took a big sip, like the first sip of a recently opened beer. It was so intense.

No I guess dose wasn't strong enough because my mom called 911 and they told her my life wasn't in immediate danger. It honestly felt like alcohol poisoning but way way worse. The pain is just, everywhere in the whole body legs stomach head eyes, everywhere. it was absolutely horrible.

Why am I getting a lil vibe that you may be trolling? Having in mind the mechanism by which SN acts it is very hard to believe you actually went through all that pain you described.

Seems like a troll, maybe prolifer trying to scare us away? I apologize if that's not the case, but it's hard to believe you :)
 
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@DownToGo announced that he attempted with the D breather, felt absolutely nothing after 30 minutes and then disappeared. We were unable to get any questions answered, like if he removed the inner bag, it would disable the entire device.

he was not accused but more questioned of the validity because he disappeared.

@GoodPersonEffed. Announced they attempted with the D breather and then thoroughly answered everyone's questions after that.

Plus there had just been a release from exit that a handful of people had attempted and felt the same way as @GoodPersonEffed

These are not comparable.
 
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Why am I getting a lil vibe that you may be trolling? Having in mind the mechanism by which SN acts it is very hard to believe you actually went through all that pain you described.

Seems like a troll, maybe prolifer trying to scare us away? I apologize if that's not the case, but it's hard to believe you :)
Ok.
 
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Why some people here feel they are like some sort of Columbo detective or Sherlock Holmes shit, all the time going against someone who kindly and for venting tells us their experience with SN, with the debreather, with any method and you all start acting as if the person was a fraud.
Who are you to disprove an experience someone has been through? Don't get it.
I understand that reading the possible side effects of taking Sn, scares you, me or whoever, but being a possible outcome, why do you have to treat the other as a liar or pro_life troll? Don't get that about this forum.
Like with the @DownToGo guy who tried the debreather for the first time and lots of people started to judge and doubt , accusing him of not knowing what he was doing or simply it was a made up story. Wtf?! But when @GoodPersonEffed gave it a try and it went the same way....then you got to the conclusion that is a manufacturer problem.
?????? Why is it more valid some user experiences than others?

A few of you are so judgmental, it makes me sick reading you.

And this goes out to certain people here that only like pointing the finger at others. Not the whole forum.

I take everything I read here with a pinch of salt, no offence to anyone. The only legitimate source (in my opinion) is Exit, who have said there's no distress to the person taking SN or the witness which lines up with the accounts of people who have watched or heard accounts of people taking SN on here. Now I'm not saying the OP didn't have distress having a sip because it's possible but I do wonder if what they took wasn't Nano2 or if it had impurities that caused discomfort. Like I've said previous, I tried some and it didn't hurt So I'm speaking from my experience. Not calling anyone a liar. But OP's account does differ from what has previously been documented.
 
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Thank you. I honestly didn't know if I wanted to CTB or not in the moment, as weird as it sounds. Then I took the sip, which was awful and indeed tastes like pool water, and was expecting for it to do the job. Like I hoped I'd CTB with that sip. I felt normal for a couple of minutes and thought it wasn't that bad, then the pain began. I'm feeling ok, my parents don't seem as concerned since this is my second attempt. Either that or they're not showing it.

I wish I had taken pics of my blue lips and fingers tbh, it's too late now.

I just had a sip of SN as well I bet know one will believe me in my silly hat, lol. just trying to bring a bit of humour to this thread.

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@Mustkeyknow, the details of your experience are spread out through multiple posts. I'd like to document them all in one place. I would really appreciate if you could correct any mistakes below and answer my questions:

1) around 3 hours before drinking the SN, you consumed lentils and a Coke
2) you mixed 3 teaspoons of SN in a coffee cup full of water (was it a small coffee cup or a large mug?)
3) you swallowed a sip (how big a sip? a tiny sip or a teaspoon?)
4) you did not take any other medications that day or the previous day
5) you are not currently sick
6) you do not have any unusual medical condition
7) you experienced the following symptoms:
  • feeling like really awful alcohol congestion
  • heart racing
  • couldn't keep balance
  • headache
  • nausea
  • overall pain
  • confusion/poor consciousness
  • pale skin, blue fingernails
  • vomiting
(how long did it take before you felt each of these symptoms, and how long did they last? were there other symptoms not on this list?)

8) you did not experience the following symptoms
  • diarrhea
  • difficulty breathing
  • loss of consciousness/fainting
Muchas gracias! I'm sure you must be exhausted.
It was a large mug, my sip was bigger than a teaspoon. I didn't took my antidepressants yesterday, but I did today. I'm on imipramine and leptosique, as well as benzos for sleeping aid. Everything else is correct, and now that you mention it I did experience difficult breathing, and I think I passed out more than once, either I passed out or fell asleep.
 
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It was a large mug, my sip was bigger than a teaspoon. I didn't took my antidepressants yesterday, but I did today. I'm on imipramine and leptosique, as well as benzos for sleeping aid. Everything else is correct, and now that you mention it I did experience difficult breathing, and I think I passed out more than once, either I passed out or fell asleep.

Thank you!

Some follow-up questions:

1) when you say "pain" do you mean:
  • pain like someone hit you with a stick?
  • burning pain?
  • tingling pain (like when your foot "falls asleep")?
2) On a scale of 1-10, how severe was the pain?

3) to confirm:
  • you do not have asthma
  • you do not have diabetes
  • you do not have chronic pain
 
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Thank you!

Some follow-up questions:

1) when you say "pain" do you mean:
  • pain like someone hit you with a stick?
  • burning pain?
  • tingling pain (like when your foot "falls asleep")?
2) On a scale of 1-10, how severe was the pain?

3) to confirm:
  • you do not have asthma
  • you do not have diabetes
  • you do not have chronic pain
1) I can I only explain it as the pain you get from when you drink too much, alcohol poisoning, like the whole thing nausea, headache, stomachache, blurry vision, heart racing, everything.

2) honestly, 11.

3) no, none of those.
 
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Like with the @DownToGo guy who tried the debreather for the first time and lots of people started to judge and doubt , accusing him of not knowing what he was doing or simply it was a made up story. Wtf?! But when @GoodPersonEffed gave it a try and it went the same way....then you got to the conclusion that is a manufacturer problem.
?????? Why is it more valid some user experiences than others?

I'm happy to address this, calmly and non-defensively.

For those who need reference, this is about two reported attempts with the ReBreather device in the thread titled DeBreather purchase, too good to be true?

@DownToGo had a failed attempt, gave a brief and incomplete account, and did not respond to direct questions. This left room for doubt, not only of what he claimed, but, reasonably, of motivations. He was given much leeway in that thread, he was not accused of lying because he did not follow up intial claims with conflicting information. He simply stopped responding. So no one could reach any reasonable conclusions, therefore they accepted they could not do so and that is where it ended, with doubts and inconclusiveness. I myself said he may have reported the experience only to receive support, not to educate others.

My account was very detailed. I thoroughly answered all follow-up questions related to the device and to the attempt. I was transparent and honest. I did not change anything about my story nor get emotional or defensive about being questioned. My conclusions about the failure of the method were supported by my experience as well as those reported in the PPH. My motivations were clear: to learn, to educate, and to edify other members of the forum. I acted above suspicion and with total integrity. The only questions I didn't answer were about whether or not I will ask for a replacement from the manufacturer, as that is personal and has no relevance to whether or not the method is reliable. I did not ignore those questions, I responded that I chose not to answer. I am confident in doing so because they are irrelevant to making an informed assessment about the product.
 
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I just had a sip of SN as well I bet know one will believe me in my silly hat, lol. just trying to bring a bit of humour to this thread.

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Ha this made me think of Arrested Development :)
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I take everything I read here with a pinch of salt, no offence to anyone. The only legitimate source (in my opinion) is Exit, who have said there's no distress to the person taking SN or the witness which lines up with the accounts of people who have watched or heard accounts of people taking SN on here. Now I'm not saying the OP didn't have distress having a sip because it's possible but I do wonder if what they took wasn't Nano2 or if it had impurities that caused discomfort. Like I've said previous, I tried some and it didn't hurt So I'm speaking from my experience. Not calling anyone a liar. But OP's account does differ from what has previously been documented.
This is very much what I was thinking too - who knows how pure it was and whether impurities could have caused the effects. Also unusual side effects are always possible.
 
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Ha this made me think of Arrested Development :)
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This is very much what I was thinking too - who knows how pure it was and whether impurities could have caused the effects. Also unusual side effects are always possible.

At least we now know from medical pictures you don't go blue but disturbingly gray
 
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Ha this made me think of Arrested Development :)
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This is very much what I was thinking too - who knows how pure it was and whether impurities could have caused the effects. Also unusual side effects are always possible.

Well all we need now is a SN song, haha



Cheers

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1) I can I only explain it as the pain you get from when you drink too much, alcohol poisoning, like the whole thing nausea, headache, stomachache, blurry vision, heart racing, everything.

2) honestly, 11.

3) no, none of those.

To me nausea, blurry vision and heart racing sound more like "discomfort", not pain? One member described a feeling like "hot coal in the stomach". Is that what it felt like to you?
 
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I'm happy to address this, calmly and non-defensively.

For those who need reference, this is about two reported attempts with the ReBreather device in the thread titled DeBreather purchase, too good to be true?

@DownToGo had a failed attempt, gave a brief and incomplete account, and did not respond to direct questions. This left room for doubt, not only of what he claimed, but, reasonably, of motivations. He was given much leeway in that thread, he was not accused of lying because he did not follow up intial claims with conflicting information. He simply stopped responding. So no one could reach any reasonable conclusions, therefore they accepted they could not do so and that is where it ended, with doubts and inconclusiveness. I myself said he may have reported the experience only to receive support, not to educate others.

My account was very detailed. I thoroughly answered all follow-up questions related to the device and to the attempt. I was transparent and honest. I did not change anything about my story nor get emotional or defensive about being questioned. My conclusions about the failure of the method were supported by my experience as well as those reported in the PPH. My motivations were clear: to learn, to educate, and to edify other members of the forum. I acted above suspicion and with total integrity. The only questions I didn't answer were about whether or not I will ask for a replacement from the manufacturer, as that is personal and has no relevance to whether or not the method is reliable. I did not ignore those questions, I responded that I chose not to answer. I am confident in doing so because they are irrelevant to making an informed assessment about the product.

Nobody owes you anything, much less someone that just attempted suicide.
Imagine acting so annoyed because he wouldn't answer to your demands. :haha:
 
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People here are discussing, trying to understand is that true or false, meanwhile I recalled all my worst hangovers and these memories just reminded me alcohol is not the thing I would like to consume every day. So I clearly understand what you have gone through and I guess your story may help others stop taking sips which make them feel bad hours after.
@Jumper Geo I am blue cuz I am going to die dabadee dabadi. P.S. One of my favorite songs.
 
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To me nausea, blurry vision and heart racing sound more like "discomfort", not pain. One member described a feeling like "hot coal in the stomach". Is that what it felt like to you?
Yes, kind of, I burped and it felt awfully like swallowing chlorine.
 
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It was a large mug, my sip was bigger than a teaspoon. I didn't took my antidepressants yesterday, but I did today. I'm on imipramine and leptosique, as well as benzos for sleeping aid. Everything else is correct, and now that you mention it I did experience difficult breathing, and I think I passed out more than once, either I passed out or fell asleep.
Certainly psychotropic meds could affect the outcome.
 
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Antiemetics help a lot to reduce stomach pain and make the process swift. If you messed around it's only natural that it was a bad experience.

You might also have overreacted about the pain you felt because of your anxious mental state at the moment, which is understandable.

Stomach pain is likely, even burning pain, and headaches. But the entire body, eyes, etc hurting a lot is something nobody has ever reported I think.

After checking OPs history he does seem legit, so I apologize for the previous post.
 
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Nobody owes you anything, much less someone that just attempted suicide.
Imagine acting so annoyed because he wouldn't answer to your demands. :haha:
To be fair @GoodPersonEffed acknowledged that the poster may have been looking for support rather than educating others. That doesn't sound like being annoyed or making demands (though I haven't read the thread myself). Too much backbiting going on around here!
 
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Yes, kind of, I burped and it felt awfully like swallowing chlorine.

Thank you for your patience! I think much of the confusion here is about the word "pain", but I won't pester you with more questions.

For context, here is the post that mentions "hot coal". The member also compares her experience to drinking chlorine.

I'm finally home after my wild gamble. I'm going to detail how things played out and if anyone wants to ask me questions about it feel free to do it here. I suggest you do it here instead of PMing me so other people don't ask the same questions over and over. Anyways here's how things played out:

After making my thread and going to sleep to fast I woke up on time. After waking up I ate two tylenol and then 30 minutes later I ate one tums. 30 minutes after that I said my supposedly possibly final words then poured and drank my SN. Not an exact time frame as it took me about 10 minutes to pour it and get to drinking it finally. It tasted like pool water. I mean like if you have ever accidentally got pool water in your mouth it's like swallowing multiple swallows of that. It was awful, like insanely bad. The taste still haunts me so yeah. Pinching my nose helped me get it down though so for anyone having trouble with the taste try that I guess. A few seconds later after drinking it my stomach started to hurt like hell. It was as if I dropped a hot coal into my stomach and it was just there and there was nothing I could do it about it. Oddly enough I waited while doubling over in pain and talking to @Jean4 and @Kirbster and kept thinking I'll throw it up I'll throw it up then I'll drink more if I have to. I did not throw up. I didn't throw up, instead I got extremely dizzy. I then panicked because I realized I'm clearly not ready yet(thanks Kirbster) and decided to call 911 while dizzy. I told them where I live and they picked me up and took my SN away with them. I told them what it was what I had drinken said I had tried to kill myself over the phone and in person confirmed what I said and then while they were taking me away in the ambulance I promptly passed out.

It was nothing. It was pure pitch black nothingness. The closest thing to oblivion a complete black out with no thoughts or feelings. It's as if time had stopped yet I hadn't realized it anyway. I felt nothing, I thought nothing, it was actually fairly peaceful. Then I woke up clearly in the ICU surrounded by my family who kept batting away my hand as I tried to reach for the mask that had tubes going down my throat. Being in the ICU was horrible not gonna lie. Luckily I soon after got a room and was able to think things through properly and say I need help/want help to the psychiatrist assigned to me. I told them all about my gamble(I in fact had to repeat this countless times) I admitted to buying SN before as a back up plan in case everything goes to hell, a last resort if you will. Luckily they believed me as I was telling the truth and thought hiding things would just overly complicate the help I needed. I was in the hospital for about 5 days then I was moved to a psychiatric hospital/ward whatever you get it. I was brought at night so it was actually hell. There was nothing to do, there was one tv and it was off and I had two roommates that were already asleep and one of them snored so loud I thought he was going to rob me of all possible sleep. Luckily after that hellish nightmare everything was fine. I made some friends, got some medication, and while I was bored I was still in an infinitely better spot compared to before. It's amazing what a little medication and time away from everything can do for someone who has never bothered to even try in the past.

Anyway all that to say I'm much better now. I don't plan to ctb in the forseeable future and hopefully ever if I can keep feeling at least fine. I thought for sure after telling two different people I was dialing 911 everyone would know I made it. My phone was actually right next to me when I did it so yeah that worked out. Here's the funny parts though. I admitted to multiple people I should have just checked myself into a psych ward to save myself some time and trouble and get this, my meto arrived 3 days after I did it. 3 days! What the heck, it was nowhere near where I live last I checked. I got completely screwed over in that regard and missed the package so they put a pink slip despite leaving everything else at my door in the past. Here's the other funny bit, no one was going to come home. Everyone didn't realize or know I was suicidal and didn't expect it. Had I not called 911 on myself I would be dead. 10 more minutes and I would have been toast. I was very dizzy when the ambulance arrived so I would have just passed out despite the pain no problem left alone. At least things worked out in the end. My gamble was successful but I don't plan on doing that ever again. Next time I'll just ask for help the normal way. Or more like, everyone knows I need help now so hopefully the chance doesn't feel the need to present itself and I continue to not think suicidal thoughts as I have been lately. While I am a bit disappointed there are people I won't be able to see for a while yet I'm still content with the fact that I'm alive right now and don't intend to let things in my life stay the same as they were before I made my attempt.

If you have any questions for me like I said please ask them here as a PM is just going to lead to more of the same PMs.
 
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Thank you for your patience! I think much of the confusion here is about the word "pain", but I won't pester you with more questions.
I agree. Although vomiting all night could be painful.. it's not pain as in like ruptured appendix or broken leg or head trauma etc.
 
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I agree. Although vomiting all night could be painful.. it's not pain as in like ruptured appendix or broken leg or head trauma etc.
I think this is what's happening, an individual person pain tolerance is variable which could warp the information without any bad intentions necessarily.
 
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Our bodies don't always react the same way. I have had reactions to medications (normal dosages) that have been extremely rare. I've also known people to ctb using methods that are described as extremely unreliable - whilst they won't work for most people, for some they do. Maybe the OP was just very unlucky and they fall into the category of extremely rare reaction.

Agreed. Just look at lethal injections. They are executed by trained personnel and the injections are standardized. Yet the effects are different on different inmates, especially how long it takes for them to die. There can never be any guarantees with chemicals and I very much doubt that sodium nitrite is some kind of magical exception.
 
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When 911 is called they send help first and then ask questions while help is routed. They never make a judgement if someone's life is in danger over the phone. Huge legal liability on the part of the dispatcher and city if you died. They would never make that call without sending help to your house.
When 911 is called they send help first and then ask questions while help is routed. They never make a judgement if someone's life is in danger over the phone. Huge legal liability on the part of the dispatcher and city if you died. They would never make that call without sending help to your house.
911 would simply not tell someone that they think "whatever the person took doesnt sound like it's enough to kill them" As @livingsucks says help would have been on route the minute 911 knew it was ingestion of a chemical. The minute 911 pick up your call it is dispatched through to an awaiting ambulance to attend, and given the nature of this call it would have been a priority call. Unknown amount of substance ingested...911 certainly couldnt have ascertained how much was consumed by being told 3 spoons, without her going to hospital for toxicology tests. It would be more than their job they would lose if they were to give the advice the OP says they gave, it just wouldn't happen.
 
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911 would simply not tell someone that they think "whatever the person took doesnt sound like it's enough to kill them" As @livingsucks says help would have been on route the minute 911 knew it was ingestion of a chemical. The minute 911 pick up your call it is dispatched through to an awaiting ambulance to attend, and given the nature of this call it would have been a priority call. Unknown amount of substance ingested...911 certainly couldnt have ascertained how much was consumed by being told 3 spoons, without her going to hospital for toxicology tests. It would be more than their job they would lose if they were to give the advice the OP says they gave, it just wouldn't happen.
But it was pointed out that OP lives in Mexico. Do you know how they respond in MX? I don't, so once that was identified, I can't speak to what 911 would do in MX.
 
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@Suez , I recall you saying that you have a medical and pharmacology background. OP says he takes imipramine, leptosique, and benzos. Do you think this has any bearing on his experience?
 
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911 would simply not tell someone that they think "whatever the person took doesnt sound like it's enough to kill them" As @livingsucks says help would have been on route the minute 911 knew it was ingestion of a chemical. The minute 911 pick up your call it is dispatched through to an awaiting ambulance to attend, and given the nature of this call it would have been a priority call. Unknown amount of substance ingested...911 certainly couldnt have ascertained how much was consumed by being told 3 spoons, without her going to hospital for toxicology tests. It would be more than their job they would lose if they were to give the advice the OP says they gave, it just wouldn't happen.
And yet it did happened. I don't know if it's because we're in a different country or what, but even my mom who's supposed to be, well, my mom, was like "no that's good service, ambulances aren't taxis" so it's like, ok then.
 
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@Suez , I recall you saying that you have a medical and pharmacology background. OP says he takes imipramine, leptosique, and benzos. Do you think this has any bearing on his experience?
I know you didn't ask me and I am not answering for Suez.
I sincerely feel that if this is true, the food that OP ingested (And potentially the liquid amount) is what caused the failure. These things have been shown and proven to affect the outcome of SN poisoning.
 
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