I drank the SN last night

[Mustkeyknow]

I was surprised by the level of pain described that wasn't followed up by puking or diarrhea as well.

I spend all night puking. No diarrhea though.

 

[Jumper Geo]

Well, if anything I think this community is concerned about spreading misinformation more than anything else. It seems perfectly acceptable that members would question the op, especially considering we have few accounts describing the experience being like this. It's also acceptable to question this person considering how loose ended a lot of what this account is claiming. I think it is best to take an objective approach to the subject and not allow our emotions to get too involved. It seems like you have an agenda to discredit the legitimacy of using SN just as much as others might be blindly defending it. When it comes down to it, SN is poison, it isn't going to be a walk in the park and certainly won't taste like candy. Maybe the op had some unrealistic expectations as to how the experience would be.

I think is important to be supportive of each other here and to experiment and learn what is best together.

SN won't taste like candy, you sure, lol

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-papers-chocolate-flavoured.37698/post-702642

Cheers

Geo

 

[Living sucks]

I spend all night puking. No diarrhea though.

Why wouldn't you disclose this in the OP or multiple posts after that, until it was suggested? That would be something you'd post as you puked all night long!

 

[Quarky00]

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Could we please STOP carelessly taking "SN sips" and then say how awful & scary it is?

Sorry I've had enough . It's not personally about you , @Mustkeyknow . I'm not attacking you . It's this phenonmenon that people feel like dying (we all do) and SN is there -- so lets give it a go . In the past I've expressed much understanding and empathy to where this is coming from .

Ingestion of SN for non-lethal purposes , by mistake , or not according to PPH recommendation is simply a big no-no . Don't prepare the SN . Don't drink . People are playing with poison and this is a Russian roulette which will cause you more anxiety . This severe distress will make the nausea/heart/etc worse , like a nightmare . It's your prerogative/choice , each and their ctb/life etc , but be aware: that''s exactly the terror of Russian roulette ... It's kinda abusing oneself.

 

[Disintegration]

SN won't taste like candy, you sure, lol

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...-papers-chocolate-flavoured.37698/post-702642

Cheers

Geo

Ok, maybe you got me there

 

[Mustkeyknow]

When did you prepare the solution and when did you ingest it? Why did you proceed the way you did after all the research you did on this method? Did your body show signs of methemoglobinemia? How long after the ingestion did it take to show effects? You say you felt pain. Where? What sort of pain?

I prepared it and took the sip fairly quickly, must not been less than 5 mins. I broke up with my GF so I was feeling down that's why I didn't care about the metos or any of that, I know it was reckless and impulsive but I was feeling very sad. Yes, it did show signs of methemoglobinemia, the nails of my hands the nails of my feet and my lips were all blue this morning. They haven't returned to norma color but they're no longer blue. The effects were extremely immediate, heart starting beating faster about 2 mins after ingestion. As for the pain, i had headaches, nausea, my stomach hurt, I was sweating a lot , and just an overall feeling of unwellness, I can only describe it as alcohol poisoning but worse.

Why wouldn't you disclose this in the OP or multiple posts after that, until it was suggested? That would be something you'd post as you puked all night long!

I thought it was implied, idk, English isn't my first language. But yes I puked a lot, mostly water and stomach acid. I refrained from vomiting at first because I did wanted to catch the bus, then the pain got unbearable

 

[Aliali1992]

Could people please stop playing the "i am so smart at detecting lies and BS" role.....it is just so childlich and redicilous. It puts people who had different experiences from the mainstream and what do you want to believe, off from speaking. If i were to do a suicide attempt impulsively i wouldn't also know how many ml's were in that sip either.

 

[Soul]

@Mustkeyknow, do you have any gastric disorders that might have acted up in response to that small but concentrated dose of SN?

 

[rikamonie]

Could people please stop playing the "i am so smart at detecting lies and BS" role.....it is just so childlich and redicilous. It puts people who had different experiences from the mainstream and what do you want to believe, off from speaking. If i were to do a suicide attempt impulsively i wouldn't also know how many ml's were in that sip either.

people just dont want false information being spread around its normal to question the reliability of someones post when things dont add up to begin with and when no other posts have been made saying similar things, if you dont know the correct information about something you did then it cant be counted as reliable research on a method

 

[Mustkeyknow]

@Mustkeyknow, do you have any gastric disorders that might have acted up in response to that small but concentrated dose of SN?

Not really not that I'm aware of. I recently started a vegan diet so that probably enhances the SN, I also had a coke three hours before the fact, that might've done something in the stomach

 

[Aliali1992]

people just dont want false information being spread around its normal to question the reliability of someones post when things dont add up to begin with and when no other posts have been made saying similar things, if you dont know the correct information about something you did then it cant be counted as reliable research on a method

No. not all experiences should be "i took SN and slept peacefully...and i would have been dead if i wasn't discovered...you have to accept there are always and will be exceptions and they may not be all false.

 

[Soul]

Not really not that I'm aware of. I recently started a vegan diet so that probably enhances the SN, I also had a coke three hours before the fact, that might've done something in the stomach

The illness you described sounds a lot like food poisoning (except that food poisoning leaves one spewing from both ends).

 

[rikamonie]

No. not all experiences should be "i took SN and slept peacefully...and i would have been dead if i wasn't discovered...you have to accept there are always and will be exceptions and they may not be all false.

why is this persons the only account of severe and unbearable pain then? why have none of the other fatal or non fatal accounts not mentioned this pain? i am not saying all experiences should be peaceful, because they arent, there can be moderate pain and discomfort

 

[Jumper Geo]

No. not all experiences should be "i took SN and slept peacefully...and i would have been dead if i wasn't discovered...you have to accept there are always and will be exceptions and they may not be all false.

Hiya,

If you don't mind me asking did you take any medication with the SN if so can you give me a rough estimate of timings and how long it took to lose conspicuousness.

Cheers

Geo

 

[Aliali1992]

why is this persons the only account of severe and unbearable pain then? why have none of the other fatal or non fatal accounts not mentioned this pain? i am not saying all experiences should be peaceful, because they arent, there can be moderate pain and discomfort

Maybe Just because people doesn't have the same pain perception? I ask why wouldn't you all jump at someone who says "i was out after 15 minutes with little discomfort and my brother found me" the same way like here and take it as granted? It maybe as well be just a troll or attention seeking. But no everyone accept it because it brings comfort and i understand that.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Could people please stop playing the "i am so smart at detecting lies and BS" role.....it is just so childlich and redicilous. It puts people who had different experiences from the mainstream and what do you want to believe, off from speaking.

You're right. It's childish and ridiculous of me to use critical thinking skills, especially to protect myself or others.

I'm sorry.

 

[Mustkeyknow]

why is this persons the only account of severe and unbearable pain then? why have none of the other fatal or non fatal accounts not mentioned this pain? i am not saying all experiences should be peaceful, because they arent, there can be moderate pain and discomfort

There's a difference between being curious about something and then just being plain rude for the sake of being right. Like others said, SN is no walk in the park.

 

[rikamonie]

Maybe Just because people doesn't have the same pain perception? I ask why wouldn't you all jump at someone who says "i was out after 15 minutes with little discomfort and my brother found me" the same way like here and take it as granted? It maybe as well be just a troll or attention seeking. But no everyone accept it because it brings comfort and i understand that.

no idea what youre trying to say here, i am not disbelieving OP because they didnt go through with it.. we are disbelieving because up until this post all accounts of SN have been following the same sort of pattern, this account of what happened is a complete anomaly and its not like the method is new, i would expect more people to experience unbearable pain if that was the case, which again is why people are unsure of the legitimacy of OP

 

[Aliali1992]

You're right. It's childish and ridiculous of me to use critical thinking skills, especially to protect myself or others.

I'm sorry.

It is not "critical thinking" appear only when you overanalyse every word to make as possible in line with what you believe. People are not perfect and the one who post here shouldn't post perfectly to fit someone's critical thinking.

 

[Living sucks]

I ask why wouldn't you all jump at someone who says "i was out after 15 minutes with little discomfort and my brother found me" the same way like here and take it as granted?

they are questioned just as intensely

 

[mpnf]

Sorry you had to go through that. People exaggerate SN's peacefulness on here a lot when plenty of cases suggest otherwise. Pretty sad really. Watch them come defend it now. They probably will blame you for not following the almighty "Stan's guide". Brace yourself.

Your comment is just sooooo accurate

 

[Aliali1992]

no idea what youre trying to say here, i am not disbelieving OP because they didnt go through with it.. we are disbelieving because up until this post all accounts of SN have been following the same sort of pattern, this account of what happened is a complete anomaly and its not like the method is new, i would expect more people to experience unbearable pain if that was the case, which again is why people are unsure of the legitimacy of OP

I know the pattern and it is courious and i was the first one to post many many questions to OP. But this one thing and just armies of people saying "this is bullshit" because it the first case. Well there was a case that had chest pain although it is not in line with the pattern..and it was a first...there ALWAYS be cases where it is not in line with the pattern...maybe it means your symptoms will likely be like the most and there is a chance it may be different dependent on your BODY, age, health conditions if you followed the regime or not. and even on how you describe pain and percept it and how you express it in another language. And what is here done to the OP will just scare people whose experiences deviate a little from the "SN textbook" in fear of being scoolded and being called all this names.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

It is not "critical thinking" appear only when you overanalyse every word to make as possible in line with what you believe. People are not perfect and the one who post here shouldn't post perfectly to fit someone's critical thinking.

Ah, but I don't believe the method is peaceful, therefore I don't cling to that. My analysis of the OP's account and subsequent statements is based on what's presented and how it's presented, not what I want, as I only want truth that will help me (and others) to make an informed decision about whether or not to use the method. I have equally and vocally argued against claims that the method is peaceful.

It seems you believe you have entered my and all of our minds, and so know what we want and believe, much as you call our questioning childish and ridiculous. It's called other-defining. Fortunately, I know and define myself, so I am not swayed by tactics such as guilt, victim vilification, and other-defining to make me ashamed and doubt myself.

Take care.

 

[MaybeSoon]

Ashamed to admit but I ate some raw SN to see what it was like (and by some I mean a couple of dabs, less than a gram) and there was absolutely nothing apart from the taste and raised heartrate. The taste was salty but was less than table salt, but has a bizzaire chemical taste and sensation that lasts a while. Can't really describe it because it was something I haven't experienced before, maybe slightly sweet and plasticy? Absolutely no pain but the OP probably had more than me.

 

[Aliali1992]

Ah, but I don't believe the method is peaceful, therefore I don't cling to that. My analysis of the OP's account and subsequent statements is based on what's presented and how it's presented, not what I want, as I only want truth that will help me (and others) to make an informed decision about whether or not to use the method. I have equally and vocally argued against claims that the method is peaceful.

It seems you believe you have entered my and all of our minds, and so know what we want and believe, much as you call our questioning childish and ridiculous. It's called other-defining. Fortunately, I know and define myself, so I am not swayed by tactics such as guilt, victim vilification, and other-defining to make me ashamed and doubt myself.

Take care.

Sorry but you're making others feel ashamed to share. It was done to me once by you also in the same manner and i just back then asked a question. I am not comminting on your personality and i am not alledging that i know what you think...i am saying how this appears over and over when someone post a new experience. And he could have really survived a suicide attempt and went through a lot to be called a liar in the name of critical thinking.

 

[Living sucks]

There is a report of hot burning coal like sensation in the stomach.
there are reports of trouble breathing.
There are reports of panic from the symptoms and backing out.
There are reports of poisoning from food that sound painful.

I also find it interesting to post this the day after the post about the one Chinese kid yesterday.

no one will know. I know if I turned blue and lived , I'd take pictures.

 

[Iwantoutrightnow]

Our bodies don't always react the same way. I have had reactions to medications (normal dosages) that have been extremely rare. I've also known people to ctb using methods that are described as extremely unreliable - whilst they won't work for most people, for some they do. Maybe the OP was just very unlucky and they fall into the category of extremely rare reaction.

Just a question @Mustkeyknow - when you took the sip were you intending to ctb and drink more and something stopped you? Or were you just tasting it to see what it was like?

How are you feeling now? How are your parents treating you? I hope you recover soon

 

[shipwreck]

@Mustkeyknow, the details of your experience are spread out through multiple posts. I'd like to document them all in one place. I would really appreciate if you could correct any mistakes below and answer my questions:

1) around 3 hours before drinking the SN, you consumed lentils and a Coke
2) you mixed 3 teaspoons of SN in a coffee cup full of water (was it a small coffee cup or a large mug?)
3) you swallowed a sip (how big a sip? a tiny sip or a teaspoon?)
4) you did not take any other medications that day or the previous day
5) you are not currently sick
6) you do not have any unusual medical condition
7) you experienced the following symptoms:

• feeling like really awful alcohol congestion
• heart racing
• couldn't keep balance
• headache
• nausea
• overall pain
• confusion/poor consciousness
• pale skin, blue fingernails
• vomiting

(how long did it take before you felt each of these symptoms, and how long did they last? were there other symptoms not on this list?)

8) you did not experience the following symptoms

• diarrhea
• difficulty breathing
• loss of consciousness/fainting

Muchas gracias! I'm sure you must be exhausted.

 

[mpnf]

Why some people here feel they are like some sort of Columbo detective or Sherlock Holmes shit, all the time going against someone who kindly and for venting tells us their experience with SN, with the debreather, with any method and you all start acting as if the person was a fraud.
Who are you to disprove an experience someone has been through? Don't get it.
I understand that reading the possible side effects of taking Sn, scares you, me or whoever, but being a possible outcome, why do you have to treat the other as a liar or pro_life troll? Don't get that about this forum.
Like with the @DownToGo guy who tried the debreather for the first time and lots of people started to judge and doubt , accusing him of not knowing what he was doing or simply it was a made up story. Wtf?! But when @GoodPersonEffed gave it a try and it went the same way....then you got to the conclusion that is a manufacturer problem.
?????? Why is it more valid some user experiences than others?

A few of you are so judgmental, it makes me sick reading you.

And this goes out to certain people here that only like pointing the finger at others. Not the whole forum.

 

[Aliali1992]

Why some people here feel they are like some sort of Columbo detective or Sherlock Holmes shit, all the time going against someone who kindly and for venting tells us their experience with SN, with the debreather, with any method and you all start acting as if the person was a fraud.
Who are you to disprove an experience someone has been through? Don't get it.
I understand that reading the possible side effects of taking Sn, scares you, me or whoever, but being a possible outcome, why do you have to treat the other as a liar or pro_life troll? Don't get that about this forum.
Like with the @DownToGo guy who tried the debreather for the first time and lots of people started to judge and doubt , accusing him of not knowing what he was doing or simply it was a made up story. Wtf?! But when @GoodPersonEffed gave it a try and it went the same way....then you got to the conclusion that is a manufacturer problem.
?????? Why is it more valid some user experiences than others?

A few of you are so judgmental, it makes me sick reading you.

That is exactly what i mean i don't want thought police also here to decide for me what is misinformation and what is not. I want to read everything from everyone who shares and decide what to believe.