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id like to talk about stuff in more detail, but i see all these people in the uk getting welfare checks and stuff .. i wondered if anyone from the us has experienced anything similar because of the website? just wanna know if there r any things i Shouldn't say ..
 
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Lol that would mean the government 1) is capable of providing that kind of service and 2) concerned for the wellbeing of its citizens. The US government only cares about money and power and the current regime has made clear their concerns extend only to the white, cis, baby making folk of the country. Everyone else can get out.
 
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Lol that would mean the government 1) is capable of providing that kind of service and 2) concerned for the wellbeing of its citizens. The US government only cares about money and power and the current regime has made clear their concerns extend only to the white, cis, baby making folk of the country. Everyone else can get out.
true ! i guess it's a good and bad thing they don't care to check for websites like these . but i always worry about watch lists - maybe it's the schizophrenia (joke?)
 
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Ready_2go

Still here…unfortunately
Apr 29, 2025
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true ! i guess it's a good and bad thing they don't care to check for websites like these . but i always worry about watch lists - maybe it's the schizophrenia (joke?)
Well for what it's worth the BPD tends to make me rush into things without fully considering the outcomes. So I might be a little too nonchalant myself about it.

I do feel as though they stigmatize it and restrict access so that we are forced to continue feeding the machine. Because a dead drone can't contribute.
 
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Well for what it's worth the BPD tends to make me rush into things without fully considering the outcomes. So I might be a little too nonchalant myself about it.

I do feel as though they stigmatize it and restrict access so that we are forced to continue feeding the machine. Because a dead drone can't contribute.
i always thought the best way to rebel was to die x.X
 
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ventingfrustrations

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I'll post if I get caught on sasu talking about how I want to ctb in the program
 
enditplz

enditplz

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Jan 24, 2023
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Welfare checks are happening to the people who bought SN from vendors that got busted like Kenneth Law and DMC.
 
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Apr 3, 2023
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id like to talk about stuff in more detail, but i see all these people in the uk getting welfare checks and stuff .. i wondered if anyone from the us has experienced anything similar because of the website? just wanna know if there r any things i Shouldn't say ..

I'm in the UK and haven't heard anything at all about checks being made re this site. People have had Police visits and had "non crime hate warnings" issued and recorded against them for posting online remarks about illegal immigrants and Trans women in female sports, however nothing as regards ctb.
Like the previous poster said, it's people who have ordered SN who have been visited.
 
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I'm in the UK and haven't heard anything at all about checks being made re this site. People have had Police visits and had "non crime hate warnings" issued and recorded against them for posting online remarks about illegal immigrants and Trans women in female sports, however nothing as regards ctb.
Like the previous poster said, it's people who have ordered SN who have been visited.
definitely relieving to hear ..!
 
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id like to talk about stuff in more detail, but i see all these people in the uk getting welfare checks and stuff .. i wondered if anyone from the us has experienced anything similar because of the website? just wanna know if there r any things i Shouldn't say ..
There is nothing illegal, in the US or the UK, about vsiting this site. There is nothing illegal about making posts here - provided, of course, that the content of those posts is not itself illegal.
 
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There is nothing illegal, in the US or the UK, about vsiting this site. There is nothing illegal about making posts here - provided, of course, that the content of those posts is not itself illegal.
does talking about ctb plans not count as illegal? just since Yk..
 
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Apr 15, 2022
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No. You have Freedom of Speech in the US. Why would you be "questioned"? Being here and talking about suicide, methods, etc is protected speech.
 
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does talking about ctb plans not count as illegal? just since Yk..
It depends on what you say.
For example, if you say you are going to ctb, and I say "I hope you find some peace", that is entirely legal.
On the other had, if you were to say "I wonder whether I should ctb" and I were to say "Yes, you should. Go do it", that would be illegal in most countries, perhaps in all.
If you follow the rules of the site - which you should re-read if you have forgotten them - what you post will be legal.
 
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Lol that would mean the government 1) is capable of providing that kind of service and 2) concerned for the wellbeing of its citizens. The US government only cares about money and power and the current regime has made clear their concerns extend only to the white, cis, baby making folk of the country. Everyone else can get out.
In terms of 2 lol no. Maybe it's true they just dont give a shit about anyone which I'd buy. But the USG absolutely empathetically doesn't give a shit about me. I have valid reasons for needing help in multiple domains and trust me they don't give a fuck. And I'm definitely white and cis. If either of those two things were different I would have gotten help.

But to answer ops question no the USG doesn't give a shit. As long as someone is bothered and put in a positon where their ass may be on the line and they have to cover it you are fine.
 
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Ready_2go

Still here…unfortunately
Apr 29, 2025
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In terms of 2 lol no. Maybe it's true they just dont give a shit about anyone which I'd buy. But the USG absolutely empathetically doesn't give a shit about me. I have valid reasons for needing help in multiple domains and trust me they don't give a fuck. And I'm definitely white and cis. If either of those two things were different I would have gotten help.

But to answer ops question no the USG doesn't give a shit. As long as someone is bothered and put in a positon where their ass may be on the line and they have to cover it you are fine.

You forgot the third component - baby making lol. Without all three you are irrelevant. Although in all seriousness, I feel bad including those characteristics. I didn't mean to come across as attack-y either. If I did I am sincerely sorry.
 
meloncholia

meloncholia

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Apr 24, 2025
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I'm new to posting but I have lurked for years. Never a peep from any government official or ISP notice for being on SS. Ofc you will hear from your ISP if you torrent something without a VPN; and the government here can send debt collectors out for your student loans while their websites where you handle that stuff are barely functional. The US government doesn't give a fuck about the welfare of its citizens, especially young adults.
 
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brokeandbroken

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Apr 18, 2023
1,157
You forgot the third component - baby making lol. Without all three you are irrelevant. Although in all seriousness, I feel bad including those characteristics. I didn't mean to come across as attack-y either. If I did I am sincerely sorry.
I mean how do you judge that? Like what's the government spying on your bedroom pulls out a melanin to amarous activity chart and goes you needed to copulate 15 times this quarter to get help. You need to pump your numbers up. Like should I have been investing in prostitutes this entire time? Like daddy needs a government lawyer!
 
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Still here…unfortunately
Apr 29, 2025
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I mean how do you judge that? Like what's the government spying on your bedroom pulls out a melanin to amarous activity chart and goes you needed to copulate 15 times this quarter to get help. You need to pump your numbers up. Like should I have been investing in prostitutes this entire time? Like daddy needs a government lawyer!

Nah nothing like that. It's not activated until your name is listed on a birth certificate/tax time. Then you go in the database of "relevant"
 
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brokeandbroken

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Apr 18, 2023
1,157
Nah nothing like that. It's not activated until your name is listed on a birth certificate/tax time. Then you go in the database of "relevant"
Are people with children really making out like bandits?
 
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brokeandbroken

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Apr 18, 2023
1,157
I mean…. *looks around* who wants to have to deal with all that? Not me.
I'm confused. You postulated that the entirety of government goes to specifically people with children. So like they should be making out like bandits then?
 
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I'm in the US and never been bothered. I'm not wealthy or politically valuable so while I think our federal government can find out absolutely anything they want about anyone, they ignore worthless little people like us.
 
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I'm confused. You postulated that the entirety of government goes to specifically people with children. So like they should be making out like bandits then?

I don't think anyone is really making out like bandits - maybe the 1% are. But I do think that in the current climate at least that group's right to exist, right to healthcare, to documentation that allows travel (ya know the basics) aren't being actively stripped away. So under that lens, I think those people are at least better off. But don't get me wrong - end of the day I don't think any one is winning.
 
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brokeandbroken

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Apr 18, 2023
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I don't think anyone is really making out like bandits - maybe the 1% are. But I do think that in the current climate at least that group's right to exist, right to healthcare, to documentation that allows travel (ya know the basics) aren't being actively stripped away. So under that lens, I think those people are at least better off. But don't get me wrong - end of the day I don't think any one is winning.
Yeah because you go to the ER for an appendicitis and the first order of business is the trusty melanin to amorous activity chart. Like oh you didn't meet your quota well no healthcare for you! Hope it doesn't burst! In terms of travel you'll have to be more specific. But I haven't heard of blanket travel bans for groups.
 
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dark archon

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Feb 24, 2025
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Unless you have published your personal information on this site, the only people other than the admins that have access to your IP address would be your ISP. Another good reason to use a VPN
 
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Yeah because you go to the ER for an appendicitis and the first order of business is the trusty melanin to amorous activity chart. Like oh you didn't meet your quota well no healthcare for you! Hope it doesn't burst! In terms of travel you'll have to be more specific. But I haven't heard of blanket travel bans for groups.

Well I suppose I shouldn't have been vague like that. Trans healthcare is being gutted and it started with minors. Legally they have banned access to hormone therapy and are investigating manufacturers and doctors alike now. So, proven, life saving and changing medication, is now banned. Although it's not appendicitis, it's is an incredibly debilitating and just as severe condition.

And not an outright ban per se - but now passport and other documentation updates are also banned. I have a license and birth certificate that correctly state my gender but my passport, which was in process before all the crap, was confiscated and I was told they would not honor any changes nor issue one in the other gender because of the inconsistency with my state documents. This effectively has banned me from going outside the US
 
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Pale_Rider

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Apr 21, 2025
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Ive decided I will never give this site up. There just no coming back if they find out. Also now I lose a place to vent, or discuss.
 
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Cress

Arcanist
Oct 15, 2023
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id like to talk about stuff in more detail, but i see all these people in the uk getting welfare checks and stuff .. i wondered if anyone from the us has experienced anything similar because of the website? just wanna know if there r any things i Shouldn't say ..
I live in the US and I have spoken about this website to therapists and Mental health providers Multiple times and it's never triggered a hospitalization incident Or led directly to concerns about my suicidality. However if someone asks you about Scales of suicide from one to ten or if you have a plan The conversation is very likely going to lead to a welfare check and or being evaluated for hospitalization.

If you absolutely need to talk to a therapist or mental health provider About issues you're dealing with Even if it's only just event and talk to someone about How suicidal you're feeling recently You can usually be pretty safe from evaluation as long as you deny having any sort of plan.
 
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Well I suppose I shouldn't have been vague like that. Trans healthcare is being gutted and it started with minors. Legally they have banned access to hormone therapy and are investigating manufacturers and doctors alike now. So, proven, life saving and changing medication, is now banned. Although it's not appendicitis, it's is an incredibly debilitating and just as severe condition.

And not an outright ban per se - but now passport and other documentation updates are also banned. I have a license and birth certificate that correctly state my gender but my passport, which was in process before all the crap, was confiscated and I was told they would not honor any changes nor issue one in the other gender because of the inconsistency with my state documents. This effectively has banned me from going outside the US
Didn't a federal judge block the Trump passport order? Also could your other documents be changed therefore you are in fact consistent?

In terms of trans Healthcare. To be honest I could have the conversation. But honestly I don't want to. That said the words "proven", "life saving" are literature wise wrong unless new robust studies have come out. The vast majority of the studies at least back when I was reviewing the literature also actively engaged in bad science to prove their hypothesis. By having low numbers, not being double blind, etc... Universities also simply won't hire people who are conservatives so well is already poisioned as it were. Most studies were also extremely difficult to conduct as the dropout/suicide rate were so high that studies couldn't be properly conducted. So results were difficult to interpret as well. The few good studies high n and proper protocols basically showed improvement for 5 years until 10 years when you were at or below your start point. Longitudinal studies are also uncommon even in this field. So the entire breadth isn't encapsulated. So proven no.

Also the difference between pediatrics and adults is also monumental and you are dealing with really two different things and two different conversations. Kids and adults are just really really different.