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Always was, is, and always shall be.
- Jun 22, 2020
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Great argument! You convinced me!No. The brain must be inside the universe.
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Great argument! You convinced me!No. The brain must be inside the universe.
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Go and read books by famous atheists.Great argument! You convinced me!
Why? I have been delving into this subject and related ones for over 50 years.Go and read books by famous atheists.
ngl you can't prove this. We can say that it's very unlikely, but it's impossible to prove, just as it's impossible to prove that there aren't invisible unicorns that don't interact with any matter or energy all around us. We generally just don't consider these things because there's no point in considering infinite maybes, but that's not the same as saying they are impossible.I can prove there is no afterlife and god.
Arguments are in those books.Why? I have been delving into this subject and related ones for over 50 years.
I can prove it, but I am too lazy to do it here, the arguments are in the books, written by famous atheists.ngl you can't prove this. We can say that it's very unlikely, but it's impossible to prove, just as it's impossible to prove that there aren't invisible unicorns that don't interact with any matter or energy all around us. We generally just don't consider these things because there's no point in considering infinite maybes, but that's not the same as saying they are impossible.
No.Listen up guys. If you think of God as an old man up in the sky that's probably not correct. If you think of God as a person that's not correct. If you think of "god" as universal consciousness that is closer.
If you can grasp the idea of a universal consciousness, a huge mind that rules over literally everything there is and even controls everything we here see think and do on a grand scale you are closer to the actual truth.
There aren't any such arguments. I am an atheist and even I wouldn't argue that because it isn't true. There are arguments about why the biblical idea of god and the afterlife is not true, but there is no widely accepted logic fully disproving any possibility of an afterlife. The idea of conscious entities beyond our universe and understanding is by definition not something we can work with. We would generally just apply Occam's razor and say there probably isn't a god, but again, very different from saying "it's impossible I proved it."Arguments are in those books.
I can prove it, but I am too lazy to do it here, the arguments are in the books, written by famous atheists.
I can prove it.There aren't any such arguments. I am an atheist and even I wouldn't argue that because it isn't true. There are arguments about why the biblical idea of god and the afterlife is not true, but there is no widely accepted logic fully disproving any possibility of an afterlife. The idea of conscious entities beyond our universe and understanding is by definition not something we can work with. We would generally just apply Occam's razor and say there probably isn't a god, but again, very different from saying "it's impossible I proved it."
They aren't beyond our universe and some of us have interacted with them. I have no interest in arguing as I realize it's pretty hard to believe. Just saying what I've experienced.The idea of conscious entities beyond our universe and understanding is by definition not something we can work with.
This isn't any more believable than what the other guy is saying and I really can't convince armchair philosophers online so I will not try.They aren't beyond our universe and some of us have interacted with them. I have no interest in arguing as I realize it's pretty hard to believe. Just saying what I've experienced.
I know it's not believable but there might be a few others around who know what I'm talking about because they have had similar experiences. Otherwise of course no one will believe it and that's ok.This isn't any more believable than what the other guy is saying and I really can't convince armchair philosophers online so I will not try.
Great argument! You convinced me!
I can prove it.
If a higher power truly does exist, they care nothing for what they created, and only takes pleasure in seeing man destroy itself, while playing with themselves. The longer this existence continues, the more I doubt there is a higher power at all.
I am too lazy to explain, just read the books.You keep saying that yet you've failed to say anything that even remotely resembles an argument.
Go and read books by famous atheists.
Say whatever you want, I don't care.I have actually. Richard Dawkins comes to mind. I used to be an atheist but learned with further life experience that there is no way to know for sure.
Say whatever you want, I don't care.
No, just too lazy to explain stuff.You're adding nothing to the conversation, just proving that you're incredibly close-minded.
Too lazy to read the books, prove it!I am too lazy to explain, just read the books.
In other words we are in hell.I think it has a lot to do with feeling guilty and coming back lifetime after lifetime to try to make amends for some perceived, by us, wrong doing.
Too lazy to read the books, prove it!
So just because someone wrote a book about it makes it proof?
There's lots of books about unicorns and leprechauns
In other words we are in hell.
I don't think you know the amount of pain some of us are in. . People here are desperate to kill themselves but that isn't evidence enough for you?I think you underestimate the amount of pain that can be experienced.
I don't think you know the amount of pain some of us are in. And there are levels of pain, but it's quite obvious to me this is hell whether you think it's bad enough to be called that or not. I'm in hell.
I had this same feeling today when I was thinking about things. I used to believe. But now I just think there's some greater being there to fuck with us. Why else would we end up this way? Why else would willfully dying be made so difficult?I don't even know if I believe in God to be honest but if some greater being exists, they're fucking evil. No question.
And if it's just random? I just can't wrap my head around it. I almost hope there's some god-like fuck out there torturing all of us.
I don't even know what I'm looking for here, I probably could/should just put this in a journal. But I just read all the shit you all deal with, and I can't imagine anything close to a human would create or condone this. I always think about how truly awful and unbearable life feels for me, someone who has it pretty damn good, and I just rage at how immeasurably worse it must feel for others who experience true hardship and trauma.
I wouldn't wish existence on anyone, even my very worst enemy. And the presumed only way out? Totally vilified by society and painful. So not only are we socialized to think there's something wrong with us when we want to die, but it's impossible to do it without fear and experience of emotional and physical agony, money/means, and truly lots of luck.
just fucked. how are there so many of us that feel something like this and yet living is still the assumed the standard? do we really believe there are people who enjoy/choose life and still would if it was more socialized that you don't have to? if so are they just dumb dumbs? or is something really wrong with me/the alternative? And there it is again.
I don't think you know the amount of pain some of us are in. . People here are desperate to kill themselves but that isn't evidence enough for you?
Like salmon swimming upstream to our own doom, mindlessly driven on by a force we don't control, we continue to choose to reincarnate over and over into this torture chamber. Those salmon can't make rational decisions for their own good and we don't either. Until our eyes are finally opened by some miracle and we see what we are actually in.If god is real, essentially he's the most famous serial killer of all time, since he could stop what's happening in the world right now.
Like salmon swimming upstream to our own doom, mindlessly driven on by a force we don't control, we continue to choose to reincarnate over and over into this torture chamber. Those salmon can't make rational decisions for their own good and we don't either. Until our eyes are finally opened by some miracle and we see what we are actually in.