UpandDownPrincess

UpandDownPrincess

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There are lots of discussions about this. If you use the search box, you should find plenty to read.
 
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faust

faust

lost among the stars
Jan 26, 2020
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The siege of Leningrad shows that sometimes it takes very much to die for some people and for others is enough less than a month. The only thing is that your SI may start playing with you. If only you have some eating disorders, it will be more possible to die of hunger. In other cases it is not even worth trying.
 
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Oyoy

Oyoy

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Feb 2, 2020
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I read 3 minutes without breath 3 days without water 3 months with out food . There are foods that can do it. I think it's 82 chocolate bars. That sounds the best.
 
Apathy79

Apathy79

Arcanist
Oct 13, 2019
489
Dry fasting can kill you within a fortnight but is much harder.

Water fasting is easy but takes a heck of a long time to die. People have lasted over a year. I know a severely underweight guy on Youtube that went 19 weeks. If you're overweight and start now, you might be dead by 2022.
 
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icravedeath

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Jan 29, 2020
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I read 3 minutes without breath 3 days without water 3 months with out food . There are foods that can do it. I think it's 82 chocolate bars. That sounds the best.
Sorry I didn't understand, what do you mean by 82 chocolate bars? If you eat 82 chocolate bars you'd die?
The siege of Leningrad shows that sometimes it takes very much to die for some people and for others is enough less than a month. The only thing is that your SI may start playing with you. If only you have some eating disorders, it will be more possible to die of hunger. In other cases it is not even worth trying.
How do you die when you starve yourself, do you get a heart attack in the end?
 
Oyoy

Oyoy

Spatula
Feb 2, 2020
741
Sorry I didn't understand, what do you mean by 82 chocolate bars? If you eat 82 chocolate bars you'd die?

How do you die when you starve yourself, do you get a heart attack in the end?
I looked up foods that kiil and it said dogs can't have chocolate but humans have a tolerance too
 
Mr2005

Mr2005

Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
Sep 25, 2018
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Thereisnothing

Thereisnothing

Enlightened
Jan 4, 2020
1,604
Not a good way to go the pain and side effects both physical and mental/emotional send you through the roof, you'd need to be drugged right up to eyeballs on narcotics to even help the process be easier and even then its more hell than being in the world. Sounds good idea in theory but really isn't.
 
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MsMaudlin

MsMaudlin

This is the fierce last stand of all I am
Dec 8, 2019
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Very difficult thing to do, SI kicks in and it must be torture.

But 82 chocolate bars? Well up for trying that
 
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icravedeath

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Jan 29, 2020
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I looked up foods that kiil and it said dogs can't have chocolate but humans have a tolerance too
This is very interesting, I never heard of it before. Which chocolate bar can you use for this method? Any specific company/type?
 
Oyoy

Oyoy

Spatula
Feb 2, 2020
741
This is very interesting, I never heard of it before. Which chocolate bar can you use for this method? Any specific company/type?
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I looked it up for stories and it was more chocking. No brand but if you find out please tell moi
 
BipolarExpat

BipolarExpat

Accomplished faker
May 30, 2019
698
"One study in Archiv Fur Kriminologie concluded that you can't survive more than 8 to 21 days without food and water.

People on their deathbed who are using very little energy may live only a few days or a few weeks without food and water.

Water is much more essential to your body than food. People who engage in hunger strikes without food but with access to water can live a few months or longer."



I think most people would need to be completely isolated for this method to have any chance, as in: wilderness isolation.

In "civilization," one would have to be far (and long) removed from phones, social media and all electronic communications, physically isolated w/ zero chance of call-ins or wellness checks, etc.

Even in the wilderness, the urge to drink rainwater or from a lake/stream would probably be overwhelming. I'd expect this death to be very long and drawn out with extreme amounts of pain as organs die off slowly.
 
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SettOne1994

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Jan 30, 2020
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max i went was 7 days all my body was aching..... it depends you can go 1 week and some days if you cut your water intake aswell.... or a month and so
 
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Ghost2211

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Jan 20, 2020
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You can go like 2 months without food as long as you have water. SI will kick in way before that though.
 
k75

k75

L'appel du Vide
Jun 27, 2019
2,546
This is an extremely difficult method, and it's probably nearly impossible to pull off alone.

If you're considering anything like this, I recommend giving this a read:

 
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SettOne1994

Student
Jan 30, 2020
177
Probably all people in jail for 20 years and more think of suicide i think. Just think why they dont just starve themselves for 1month or so to erase all their suffering. Because it requires a huge amount of will power and good spirits....You have to be happy and have a higher purpose....Its painful to starve to death
 
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foreveryoung

foreveryoung

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Jan 2, 2020
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Well if you go outright with fasting only its obviously going to be near impossible (ok, not impossible but you must be very determined: The Irish Hunger Strikes was probably one of the best reports on starving to death: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK385299/), but there are certain factors that lead to death when in a fasting state. Many cases where people suddenly drop dead due to cardiac arrhythmia doing a certain diet. One of the dangerous diets i read about was called "The Last Chance Diet" that lead to many accidental death. Still I don't think it will guarantee death, mortality rate seems super low, not everybody died doing these diets. You'll probably just end up shaving off a few pounds.
 
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icravedeath

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max i went was 7 days all my body was aching..... it depends you can go 1 week and some days if you cut your water intake aswell.... or a month and so
wow! 7 days!
"One study in Archiv Fur Kriminologie concluded that you can't survive more than 8 to 21 days without food and water.

People on their deathbed who are using very little energy may live only a few days or a few weeks without food and water.

Water is much more essential to your body than food. People who engage in hunger strikes without food but with access to water can live a few months or longer."



I think most people would need to be completely isolated for this method to have any chance, as in: wilderness isolation.

In "civilization," one would have to be far (and long) removed from phones, social media and all electronic communications, physically isolated w/ zero chance of call-ins or wellness checks, etc.

Even in the wilderness, the urge to drink rainwater or from a lake/stream would probably be overwhelming. I'd expect this death to be very long and drawn out with extreme amounts of pain as organs die off slowly.
But what if you do dry fasting aka you don't drink water at all, you still get water from the food though?
 
Apathy79

Apathy79

Arcanist
Oct 13, 2019
489
What food? Dry fasting means consuming nothing at all. That's the only way to die from fasting - if you drink water, it will take months if not years.

But dry fasting is a painful way to go. Your body doesn't like being dehydrated. Think the worst hangover you've ever had that just gets progressively worse for weeks until you finally croak.
 
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Nnana

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Dec 1, 2019
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Fasting for a long time could induce fatal arrhythmia too. If you only drink water, your body will lack potassium, magnesium, sodium. This could induce arrhythmia.
 
Apathy79

Apathy79

Arcanist
Oct 13, 2019
489
It's a common theory that doesn't tend to hold up in practice. In my 40 day water fast, I didn't even get cramps. I'd be extremely surprised if I couldn't have gone another 200+ days any differently. Ketone levels stayed elevated and fuelled the brain while the body ran on fat stores. The severely underweight Youtube guy who went 19 weeks didn't get cramps either. There are water fasting centres all over the world that take thousands of people through water fasts over many months with close to zero lives lost. My hunch is if you are normal weight, you'd be lucky to be dead by the end of the year water fasting. You'd have to get below 2% body fat.

That said, you might be able to induce deficiencies deliberately. Given most people like me are intending to survive the process we tend to drink slowly and consistently so the water actually hydrates rather than getting flushed straight out. If you were to drink a lot very quickly, you might be able to flush out electrolytes and hope for a sudden heart attack like occasionally happens to marathon runners. Also if you fasted long enough (minimum 2 months), and then ate an enormous meal straight away, you'd have some hope of killing yourself with refeeding syndrome like what happened to some holocaust survivors. But I think in both cases you're more likely to do severe damage and stay alive. It's just not a prudent method.
 
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terry_a_davis

Warlock
Dec 28, 2019
707
Due to schizophrenia I started eating less and less over a period of about 18 months, in the end i was eating 2 slices of bread a day and 2 small cups of water, this was during the last few months.
I lost half my bodyweight and could barely walk i was so weak. I ended up being sectioned and force fed through a nasal tube. Meds were forced on me and after about 7 or 8 weeks i started eating again.
I wouldn't recommend this method to ctb. It's very slow and you may up in hospital being force fed.
 
Aeathelina

Aeathelina

Little Homeless Girl
Feb 5, 2020
308
I once spent 2 1/2 in a house with no water except for jugs that I filled up before the utilities got cut off and had nothing to eat other than seasonings. I'm sure that had it been more for week the house I would have died. And it was hot too so I was sweating. Lost like 30lbs and I'm 4ft10in so I ended up weighting 95lbs when I was finally found. So yea the human body can take punishment like crazy. I'm fasting right because I need to lose weight but I wouldn't recommend death by starvation.
 
TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
6,819
Pretty much not as reliable as you think as there are many variables that come into play, your general physical health, your genetics, and of course the environment (hot, humid, dry, cold, wet, damp, etc.). @faust raises good points in regards to the Siege of Leningrad, but each individual is different.

@Oyoy The 3-3-3 rule is really just an estimate. I don't believe that death occurs when one is without breathable oxygen for 3 minutes, possibly brain dead/unconscious but if resuscitated, brain damage and stuff can occur. I believe it takes longer than that for death to occur. As for food, it's possible to survive longer and people have been rescued only to suffer more damage as a result. With respect to chocolate bars, I'm not sure if one would be able to down 82 chocolate bars (with enough cacao and caffeine content) to result in death, the survival instinct and nausea would kick in resulting in vomiting and purging the chocolate before the body can absorb it.
 

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