Venting Finally ordered sn

[Thanatos]

After a horrible drowning attempt 2 weeks ago I've realized I need an easier method. I'm so tired and done with life. I have people who care but they cant see I'm better off dead. Hope it gets here soon. I've done some research and can do more but I'll ask for any advice anyway.
I have no anti emetic but a strong stomach, weed, and some benzos and beta blockers to keep me calm.
Is gravol and weed enough?

 

[GlowingCactus]

The PPeH mentions smoking weed as having an antiemetic-like effect but personally I wouldn't rely on it to keep the SN down. Better to stick with "conventional" antiemetics such as metoclopramide (best option) or domperidone which are known to work well because there is a lot more data available.

 

[woxihuanni]

It surprises me weed is said to work. I'd throw up just from weed, cannot stand the thing.

Last time somebody did it without the AE, relying on antipsychotics' side effets, they failed.

 

[Thanatos]

I will have 2lb of SN so I could try again

 

[Phazed Reality]

I would try to find metoclopramide as weed may not be reliable. An antiemetic that is a dopamine blocker is preferred which Meto is.

 

[Bagger]

Without aniemetics you can use long lasting empty 000 capsules, so SN will be released in your small intestine. Then even if you vomit, no SN will be "lost".

 

[JimFord99]

Without aniemetics you can use long lansting empty 000 capsules, so SN will be released in your small intestine. Then even if you vomit, no SN will be "lost".

THE advantage of SN capsules. Thanks for this point.

 

[Stan]

If you are that scared of throwing up, inject it. Its a proven medical treatment

 

[JimFord99]

If you are that scared of throwing up, inject it. Its a proven medical treatment

Has this ever done before? Inject a solution of water and SN into a vein? What would be the lethal dose I wonder.

 

[Stan]

I don't make this stuff up you know for shits and giggles :-)

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[JimFord99]

Just never heard of it that is why it made me curious. Any idea how quick it goes?

 

[GlowingCactus]

I don't make this stuff up you know for shits and giggles :-)

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Sodium Nitrite Solution for Injection - Summary of Product Characteristics (SmPC) by Hope Pharmaceuticals Ltd

www.medicines.org.uk

So SN is useful both to save lives and end lives. I find this fascinating.

 

[JimFord99]

So SN is useful both to save lives and end lives. I find this fascinating.

Yes, it is commonly used as a meat preservation method. (Method!) hohoho

 

[Stan]

Injecting SN is part of the antidote for cyanide ironically lol

Any idea how quick it goes?

I don't know but I am expecting it to be way quicker than ingesting it. Drinking it first, then going straight in with thigh and arm muscle injections if I can do the vein thing i will, but will probably be dehydrated so finding one might be hard

 

[GeorgeJL]

After a horrible drowning attempt 2 weeks ago I've realized I need an easier method. I'm so tired and done with life. I have people who care but they cant see I'm better off dead. Hope it gets here soon. I've done some research and can do more but I'll ask for any advice anyway.
I have no anti emetic but a strong stomach, weed, and some benzos and beta blockers to keep me calm.
Is gravol and weed enough?

The problem with taking weed with your method is that if you get a bad trip then it will be many times worse because your dying on top of it. There are plenty of places online people can buy antiemetics.

 

[Soul]

I don't make this stuff up you know for shits and giggles :-)

Sodium Nitrite Solution for Injection - Summary of Product Characteristics (SmPC) - (emc) | 7353

Sodium Nitrite Solution for Injection - Summary of Product Characteristics (SmPC) by Hope Pharmaceuticals Ltd

www.medicines.org.uk

Well, after your SN Factoid Thread it's a bit hard to be sure, you know?

And unless I'm missing something this information isn't very helpful for someone who wants to use SN to exit. What kind of solution would you prepare? How much would you inject? How painful are the injections? Are you certain it absorbs faster this way, or speculating?

It reminds me a bit of @Xerxes's notorious DMSO thread, I'm afraid. Wouldn't advice on injecting SN be in the PPH if it were a thing?

 

[Stan]

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3% SN in 97% water. If you inject 3 X 10ml of the solution its an overdose. I am doing this with the oral intake.

I have no idea why its not recommended. Maybe people don't like needles. but it certainly does away with the AE, no vomiting and works faster as it does not need to be digested

 

[Thanatos]

I have access to small 10ml IM needles I may do both. I also have capsules I could empty and fill. Hopefully no anti emetic needed

 

[bigj75]

do not cut corners when it comes to cbt'ing. get the antiemtics! so you don't increase the chance of failing.

 

[Thanatos]

I will have about 2lb of SN, I will do IM injections till death. No antiemetic, and yes IM injection is faster than the oral route. All injections are actually, but IM is second only to IV
Edit: if it doesnt work I'll be a lesson for others and will just attempt again with the excess sn

 

[littlelady774]

Good luck injecting such salty water. It'll burn like hell

 

[RedAlert]

Hey Thanatos, Your from Canada right? Doesn't your mail get checked for dangerous substances and confiscated in Canada?

 

[Stan]

Good luck injecting such salty water. It'll burn like hell

So why do doctors do it now as a treatment? What do you think a saline drip is that they give you in hospital?

 

[Suicidal4Ever]

Without aniemetics you can use long lasting empty 000 capsules, so SN will be released in your small intestine. Then even if you vomit, no SN will be "lost".

If have the 000 empty capsules and SN but didn't know this! All i have to do know is set a date.

 

[littlelady774]

So why do doctors do it now as a treatment? What do you think a saline drip is that they give you in hospital?

The saline solution in the hospital is like 0.9% salt.
If you put 15+ grams of SN in like 100 ml of water and inject it, it's going to be like 25-50% salt. Big difference. It will probably burn

 

[Stan]

Obviously didn't read what I wrote which is to make the 3% solution which is what they give you IV in hospital. Check my post and get back to me with any further questions

 

[littlelady774]

^sorry, my bad. I didn't read your post

 

[Soul]

Sodium Nitrite Injection: Package Insert / Prescribing Info / MOA

Sodium Nitrite Injection package insert / prescribing information for healthcare professionals. Includes: indications, dosage, adverse reactions and pharmacology.

www.drugs.com

3% SN in 97% water. If you inject 3 X 10ml of the solution its an overdose. I am doing this with the oral intake.

I have no idea why its not recommended. Maybe people don't like needles. but it certainly does away with the AE, no vomiting and works faster as it does not need to be digested

@Stan, I'd be a lot happier if you'd spell out in detail what your proposed method entails, step by step, and what you're basing it on, which bits are speculation, etc.

I'm asking you to do this out of concern for you as well as for anyone reading who might be inclined to do what you're proposing.

So far it's unclear what you mean to do, in what order, at what dosage, mixed with what, how and why.

Please don't feel defensive - I'm trying to help you clarify this. It's not a 100% constant that injections are always better. Instructions for IV delivery intended to be nonlethal don't seem like an ideal source for purposes of suicide. I understand that you're extrapolating from those instructions but please please please be explicit about what your proposed method is and what your reasoning is based on.

 

[Stan]

No offence taken at all Soul, in fact I am very glad you read it and saw the omission of how the solution can be made so I am happy to share.

So the main principle is that this is by volume and not by weight. So you are trying to create a solution that is 3% SN and 97% water.

To do this you will need a measuring jug that can measure 1ml of water, its absolutely essential that you get one that can measure fluid to that degree otherwise it will be guess work. I have one from Amazon that cost a few £s.

You first fill the beaker to exactly 97 ml with water. You then slowly add SN (using a small spoon for more control) till the level reaches 100 ml. Give a long stir and then you have a solution that is 97% water and 3% SN by volume. Which is what the hospitals use

I wont be going IV but IM for the following reasons:

1. If you are fasting, you will be dehydrated which means veins will be harder to find. I have never used a syringe on myself so not the best time to learn. Plus you need to have 3 X 10cc dosages to get the desired dose so finding a vein 3 times will be a challenge.

2. Intra Muscular is a bit slower to get into the system than IV. So gives me the time to inject myself 3 times before any drowsiness sets in

I purchased multiple needs and syringes. The best needle for IM is the 21 gauge size. So I will prepare the solution, fill the syringes prior to drinking the SN (not the solution I just made but the 15gm in 50 - 100ml of water) as per the method and then inject myself. Best places are the thigh or arm muscles for ease of access.

So here is my reason for doing it on top of the known method. Injecting any drug rather than digesting is going to be much quicker to get into the bloodstream as it bypasses all the metabolic and digestive processes. Technically you actually need way less physical SN to achieve it that way. Even though I will be following the regime, if I am sick, I still have it in my bloodstream working. But if I am being truly honest, its the speed I am looking for to get me unconscious as quickly as possible.

Its also an approved medical solution in use by hospitals around the world, granted the solution is made in a laboratory but realistically would I be concerned of a bacterial infection?

If this is picked up by Exit I want naming rights. Should be called the 'Stan Protocol'

With regards to the speculation, the medical instructions provided by the medical resources say that less than 2 doses can be fatal. The also don't give the dose in one big shot to minimise the toxicity we are trying to reach. I am not guaranteeing this works but the theory is sound and is based on real life application by members of the medical profession

 

[Soul]

Thanks Stan but I still see some doubtful bits.

Can you provide a link to or photo of the measuring device you mean?

What are you using for water? Plain tap water? Not always a great idea, I think, and certainly not what hospitals use.

Then ... You're planning to inject 3x roughly 3 g of SN for a total of roughly 9g. Why that amount?

Your reason for deciding on IM rather than IV is just for convenience, and hoping for luck. Fair enough, but as you say there's no guarantee that this is going to work as intended. I think you should emphasize that at the beginning, middle and end of your description.

10cc is a pretty big shot. Will it hurt? Have you tried it with saline solution? Is it something an already-distressed person will be readily able to do three times?

Thanks for not taking offense.